taxiq said:

There is a video of Dan saying the efficiency has been improved from 93 to 96 and also using  23 ohm.  Not that it really matters, because point I was making was that the C's are demanding of an amp.   Your numbers actually are more demanding that those I relied on.
 

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x relic x said:

I didn't realize they did a small change. They were talking about the C and not the open version?

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taxiq said:

Now you've flipped me.  Don't recall whether he was talking about the O or C.   But for me personally the harder to drive the better.  Have amps that I believe can match the load.   What is important is that Dan holds to the C's have excellent scaling which is exactly what I want.  Don't question they sound very good in the foothills, but am more interested in what they do, so to speak, above the clouds.    Got hope that the First Watt may get 'em there. 

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mscott58 said:

The Liquid Gold sure does!

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buke9 said:

The Liquid Titanium is even better IMHO. I hope they build it.

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mscott58 said:

The Liquid Gold sure does!

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tjl5709 said:

  I just have to throw this out to the lurkers. Dang, these are just one fine sounding, fine fitting, and comfortable set of phones.

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hansotek said:

I assume you mean the Liquid Tungsten.

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dickies said:

 

I've burned in! I've cued up some metal  \\m//  I've pad rolled, and..............
I think 1 black pad is what I'm going to use when listening to \\m//etal, and everything else too! (read on I'll explain... I hope)
On the subject of tuning the C yes on the gear I've got I hear some differences, mainly a slight reduction in treble presence and a slight haze over that reign. But I think a source can make much more of a difference to presentation.
I'm running the C's balanced from a oppo ha-1 (as shown in my earlier photo) and an Audio-gd NFB-27H, and this headphone scales!
I'm hearing a larger soundstage and greater separation from the 27h, most of all the bass frequencies from 27h are more present throughout, they don't bleed up in to the mids however, you just notice a bass guitarist and the kick drum more from the 27h vs the ha-1.

 

 

 

Now listening to the 27h & C caused me to suffer 'audio euphoria' the feeling took hold of me and compelled me to do some things I thought I'd never do again, I did  something I've never had to do before and don't ever want to do again!
That blessed state even lead me to begin these written impressions with a paragraph about listening to a man saying the F-word!

 

While I was listening listening to the 27h and the C's I was stuck by a proclamation, this pairing is as close to real neutrality as I've heard, I thought to myself if I had to market this combination I'd use a slogan like 'hear what the Discerning Artist intended'

(Now at that point the feeling was truely taking hold)
I told myself I can't just go about giving that thought absolute validity without trying to properly substantiate it beyond just some 'general listening'

 

In 2009 I went to 2 Pearl Jam live shows here in Aus, I remember them well, PJ happen to be my favourite band, I've collected a bunch PJ offical bootlegs, those shows being 2 of them.
(Not yet knowing where this all might end up) I figured no better place to start by listening to those shows back using the 27h+C...... 3 times..... each!

And they sound pretty much like I remember them!
To elaborate, the signpost moment that rose above others from either gig is during a breakdown in the middle of 'not for you' from the november 25th 2009 brisbane show. while the band plays in a loop Eddie tells the crowd that he'd never prior to that day heard the word 'schoolie' before, he rants a little about schoolies and ends by saying "screwin conservative screw''s"
Whilst saying the first F-word his distance from the mic varies, he was moving closer to the mic as he said it, so the presence changes a little throughout the word.
At the gig I heard exactly what he had said, and when I think about it I remember it like it was yesterday.
But when I first listened back to the track after getting the bootleg a few years ago on an ipod+bose dock it sounded like he said 'bunch of conservative ****'s'
Since then that track has been one of my references. Through transparent gear he for the most part is required to put $2 in the swear jar but from a lot of gear I can't really tell which he says, sometimes I lean a little one way but can't be sure enough to fine hime more than the $1.
From the 27h+C I have no doubts he says screwin.

 

Now don't yet file a grievance claiming insignificance, I'm not parting ways yet! (had to end that with some pearl jam double entendres lol)

During the tuning pad rolling to metal I Listened to some Black Label Society. It's fair to say Zakk Wylde's singing voice lacks articulation and diction, this is very apparent on the Unblacked album.
from the 27h+C however he sounds a transparent as I've heard to date, yes even more so than when I plugged my old Audeze lcd-xc into a hugo, I put that more down to the XC's than the hugo my pair were a bit withdrawn through the male vocal range, the Ether C are far from withdrawn in the vocals, they do a great job there imo.

I could go on all night about how I think these headphones and that dac/amp are so damn tonally accurate but I'm listening to music made by other people, I've got no Idea what tone, presence stereo image they were hearing in studio and or intending, not to mention a bunch of that music despite the fact I love it has been smashed in post by people I wouldn't trust to mix/master my band's music (if I still had one)

So deep in the closet full of musical gear I dug. And out came my old digidesign mbox mini and shure sm57. I bought both of them back in 08 or 09 I was 19 or 20ish played guitar in a band, I used to record song ideas and mess around a bit with protools 8, sadly despite always hoping and dreaming of being a sound engineer and or album producer that dream died out with my ponytail.
But enough about the me who literally would only every wear Dickies t-shirts (where the nickname comes from)
The current me has for the first time in about 5 years decided to record himself playing guitar!
Sadly for younger me it's not going to lead anywhere but he should at least be happy we own a Gretsch black falcon and a nice peavey classic 50 tube amp now, he'd also be pleased that we still have and still love the Cole Clark FL1AC he worked so hard for.

 

So I recored myself playing both direct into the mbox and via the 57, my mic placements were edge of speaker cone on the amp mic head almost touching covering cloth, with the acoustic I mic'd at the 12th fret and the bottom lower part of the guitar, I fiddled around until I found the spot I thought sound right the mic was about a mic length from the guitar.
I recored about an hour of guitar tracks in protools 12 cut them up and did some arranging, a tiny bit of tweaking with a few plug-in's and sent them off with $100 to a old friend of mine who did make it as an engineer. (He tracks at a local reputable studio)
I explained to him what I was trying to do and asked him to mix and master the tracks to sound as unmixed and natural, clean clear and real as possible. (He's actually played both my guitars a bunch particularly more so the Black Falcon, so has good idea of its sound, he at one point actually wanted to buy it off me too)

A week later the digital sums came back to me (if you don't know what that is it's a term for digital tracks mixed and bounced down to 16/44.1)

 

And you guessed it! when I played it back through the 27h+C it sound like.... an amateur guitar player, playing really nice guitars in a untreated smallish room!

Now I did know I was using headphones! the sound doesn't fill the room, but it sure does extend a distance past the earcups.
Maybe the upper mid range has a fraction more presence but we're not talking anything more than barely noticeable, and that could just be the mix.
I think the attack of of notes on the bottom E string of the acoustic might not come across as much, but the sustain and decay are pretty bang on, but you could argue mic placement on that.

 

So I can't stop now... I need a control test I've got to go and try all this through my ha-1.

I sat there for hours almost days, listening to a track on the 27h then the ha-1 then picked up the guitar and played the same piece, I did that over and over. If I didn't actually have to work or sleep I'd still be doing it.

You should do all that too, not only to save the jobs of mixing and mastering engineers the world over but if you do using the Ether C's I think you'll be closer to hearing accurate tonality than any other production closed can on the market atm.

Worst case scenario you hear what your source defines as tonality.
I think the Ether C's are a pipe, yes poo flows through a pipe but so does water, you can breath air under water through a pipe, don't drown get some fresh air.

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emptymt said:

Hi man,

very nice observation and glad you like the ETHER C, I have since gotten the ETHER open as I feel that it is more suitable for my metal listening session.

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