kevr
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Hi all, first post!
I'm looking for advice on which headphones to buy. Some context: I'm mixing and recording sound in a live setting where musicians are playing through a PA system in the same room as I'm mixing, so I need headphones which will isolate - a closed back design. I'm a long-time audiophile, so I very much appreciate good sound and I'm looking for a headphone that will be neutral and fairly flat - ones which won't color the sound, so I can accurately dial in each instrument. I'm also a musician and new to mixing and recording, but wanting to stretch my legs. I started out with Sennheiser Momentum (ick), tried the AKG K240 but didn't have enough time to spend with them to form a solid opinion before buying a pair of AKG K701's. The open back design on the latter two doesn't isolate well enough (as I found out).
I LOVE the 701's - the soundstage, imaging, clarity and purity of the sound is simply the best I've ever heard, and they ARE extremely flat. I'm sure they will be incredible for mastering in a quiet environment, but I'm finding their lack of bass (correction: hyper-neutral response) to be throwing off my mix during live performances - my mixes are coming out bass-heavy, maybe because more bass is what my ears are wanting to hear, in the moment - or maybe because I'm trying to compensate for the external sound bleeding through while recording live.
I'm beginning to realize that mixing live sound is much different than mastering or just listening to music. I'm looking for headphones which will help me mix a good live sound, while the band is playing.
I think that what I'm looking for is the clarity of the 701's in a closed-back design with slightly more bass. I'm finding myself giving the 701's only about a 1-2 dB per octave boost below about 250 hz to get a sound that's closer to what I consider balanced bass, but that's listening critically in a quiet environment. A live band environment is a whole different animal, so I'm not sure what I should be listening for in a pair of headphones for that application.
I'll be keeping the 701's - forever - I can't wait to try mastering on them, they sound so....perfect! They're just not suited for what I'm trying to use them for.
I've read countless reviews and debates on these and other forums until my head is spinning with model numbers and opinions. Some of my top picks from what I've read are:
Beyerdynamic DT-770 Pro (but people say they're bass-heavy)
Sennheiser HD-280 Pro
Sony MDR7506 (I just don't trust Sony to provide an accurate, true sound!)
Shure SRH840
Audio Technica ATH-M50x
(It's all a blur at this point, so a couple of these might be semi-open designs, I lost track awhile ago...)
I'm hoping someone will chime in with "oh yeah, you want xxxxx headphones!" or at least help me narrow it down to a couple choices.
I'll be running these right off the mixing board, so amplification won't be an issue. My budget is up to $300.
Opinions? Suggestions? Help? Please? And thank you!
I'm looking for advice on which headphones to buy. Some context: I'm mixing and recording sound in a live setting where musicians are playing through a PA system in the same room as I'm mixing, so I need headphones which will isolate - a closed back design. I'm a long-time audiophile, so I very much appreciate good sound and I'm looking for a headphone that will be neutral and fairly flat - ones which won't color the sound, so I can accurately dial in each instrument. I'm also a musician and new to mixing and recording, but wanting to stretch my legs. I started out with Sennheiser Momentum (ick), tried the AKG K240 but didn't have enough time to spend with them to form a solid opinion before buying a pair of AKG K701's. The open back design on the latter two doesn't isolate well enough (as I found out).
I LOVE the 701's - the soundstage, imaging, clarity and purity of the sound is simply the best I've ever heard, and they ARE extremely flat. I'm sure they will be incredible for mastering in a quiet environment, but I'm finding their lack of bass (correction: hyper-neutral response) to be throwing off my mix during live performances - my mixes are coming out bass-heavy, maybe because more bass is what my ears are wanting to hear, in the moment - or maybe because I'm trying to compensate for the external sound bleeding through while recording live.
I'm beginning to realize that mixing live sound is much different than mastering or just listening to music. I'm looking for headphones which will help me mix a good live sound, while the band is playing.
I think that what I'm looking for is the clarity of the 701's in a closed-back design with slightly more bass. I'm finding myself giving the 701's only about a 1-2 dB per octave boost below about 250 hz to get a sound that's closer to what I consider balanced bass, but that's listening critically in a quiet environment. A live band environment is a whole different animal, so I'm not sure what I should be listening for in a pair of headphones for that application.
I'll be keeping the 701's - forever - I can't wait to try mastering on them, they sound so....perfect! They're just not suited for what I'm trying to use them for.
I've read countless reviews and debates on these and other forums until my head is spinning with model numbers and opinions. Some of my top picks from what I've read are:
Beyerdynamic DT-770 Pro (but people say they're bass-heavy)
Sennheiser HD-280 Pro
Sony MDR7506 (I just don't trust Sony to provide an accurate, true sound!)
Shure SRH840
Audio Technica ATH-M50x
(It's all a blur at this point, so a couple of these might be semi-open designs, I lost track awhile ago...)
I'm hoping someone will chime in with "oh yeah, you want xxxxx headphones!" or at least help me narrow it down to a couple choices.
I'll be running these right off the mixing board, so amplification won't be an issue. My budget is up to $300.
Opinions? Suggestions? Help? Please? And thank you!