Metrum Pavane
May 26, 2016 at 12:11 PM Post #212 of 682
If anyone's interested in a 220v-240v Pavane's that's less than a year old in silver I may let my one go for $US3600. 
 
May 27, 2016 at 10:32 PM Post #213 of 682
  If anyone's interested in a 220v-240v Pavane's that's less than a year old in silver I may let my one go for $US3600. 

 
Well, that's damned annoying Asiri. I have literally just come back from A2A in the last few minutes with a new one. Although mine is black. What were the odds? What are you replacing it with?
 
May 27, 2016 at 11:00 PM Post #214 of 682
As alluded to above, I have just come back from the hi fi store with a Metrum Pavane. I went to listen to the Yggdrasil and the Pavane, and also took my Hegel HD25 as a reference.
 
I was expecting the differences to be subtle, the Yggdrasil to be better than the Hegel, and the Pavane to be marginally better than the Yggdrasil. With that expectation, I fully expected to come home with the Yggdrasil. As it turned out, the differences were substantial, and the Pavane was clearly better than either. However, the Hegel was also clearly better than the Yggdrasil. That is, unless you like a screechingly bright, bleached and hyper-detailed sound.
 
I listened on a familiar system at the hi fi store: all dacs playing from the optical output of an Astell & Kern player (their Auralic Aries was not working properly) into an Auralic Taurus, and then HD800S headphones. As I happen to own a pair of HD800s and an Auralic Taurus, I felt right at home.
 
First, a few words about the Hegel HD25. This has received some stellar reviews, but generally flies under the radar. It does not have the profile of something like the Chord Hugo or the Yggdrasil. Possibly because it is a plain looking unit, with no fancy FGPA or R2R technology. Just an off-the-rack AKM dac chip, well implemented output stage and well-designed power supply. But it should be better known, because it is outstanding. In the last couple of years I have owned the Chord Hugo, Meitner MA1, Chord QBD76HD, Auralic Vega, Bel Canto DAC 3.5 and a number of others. I prefer the Hegel HD25 to all of these DACs, many of them much more expensive. The other DACs may have been more detailed (in some cases), had blacker backgrounds, or been better in some specific "hi fi" criteria. But the Hegel just gets out of the way and plays music in a very self-effacing way. It is colourful, dynamic and rich sounding, with excellent levels of details. But it does not sound dry, bright, etched, lacking dynamics or have any of the other faults which ultimately led me to sell the other dacs. It just does everything right, and nothing wrong.
 
The Yggdrasil has of course received fantastic reviews. From the couple of hours I spent listening to a well run-in demo unit today, the reviews are not (IMO) justified. It was certainly very detailed. But it sounded bright, tonally bleached, with voices in particular sounding recessed. It lacked musical engagement. I did not enjoy listening to it.
 
By contrast, the Metrum Pavane was darker sounding, a shade or two warmer than neutral. But it has rich tonal colours, deep bass, and all the detail without sounding etched or analytical. The thing I find most impressive is the richness and naturalness of the music. Voices and instruments have real presence, notes are full bodied, with density and texture. It may be the most natural sounding DAC I have heard.
 
And the Hegel HD25? It comes surprisingly close. It was clearly better than the Yggdrasil, to my ears. It sounded richer and more colourful, with as much detail, but was also more engaging. But even the HD25 lacked that last bit of tonal depth and fullness of sound that the Pavane has. These differences are not subtle at all. To my ears, the Pavane was substantially better than the Yggdrasil, and enough of an improvement on the HD25 that I felt compelled to take out my wallet and bring it home.
 
May 28, 2016 at 3:41 AM Post #216 of 682
Nice impressions and congrats!

 

Btw Hegel has a new DAC the HD30. I have not personally heard it, but is reported to sound superior although keeping the sound sig of the HD25. 

 
May 28, 2016 at 5:23 PM Post #217 of 682
   
Well, that's damned annoying Asiri. I have literally just come back from A2A in the last few minutes with a new one. Although mine is black. What were the odds? What are you replacing it with?

 
LOL - Ross! - that's frustrating (for both you and me)! I'm glad you're enjoying it mate - it's a great DAC. 
 
May 29, 2016 at 2:44 PM Post #218 of 682
  As alluded to above, I have just come back from the hi fi store with a Metrum Pavane. I went to listen to the Yggdrasil and the Pavane, and also took my Hegel HD25 as a reference.
 
I was expecting the differences to be subtle, the Yggdrasil to be better than the Hegel, and the Pavane to be marginally better than the Yggdrasil. With that expectation, I fully expected to come home with the Yggdrasil. As it turned out, the differences were substantial, and the Pavane was clearly better than either. However, the Hegel was also clearly better than the Yggdrasil. That is, unless you like a screechingly bright, bleached and hyper-detailed sound.
 
I listened on a familiar system at the hi fi store: all dacs playing from the optical output of an Astell & Kern player (their Auralic Aries was not working properly) into an Auralic Taurus, and then HD800S headphones. As I happen to own a pair of HD800s and an Auralic Taurus, I felt right at home.
 
First, a few words about the Hegel HD25. This has received some stellar reviews, but generally flies under the radar. It does not have the profile of something like the Chord Hugo or the Yggdrasil. Possibly because it is a plain looking unit, with no fancy FGPA or R2R technology. Just an off-the-rack AKM dac chip, well implemented output stage and well-designed power supply. But it should be better known, because it is outstanding. In the last couple of years I have owned the Chord Hugo, Meitner MA1, Chord QBD76HD, Auralic Vega, Bel Canto DAC 3.5 and a number of others. I prefer the Hegel HD25 to all of these DACs, many of them much more expensive. The other DACs may have been more detailed (in some cases), had blacker backgrounds, or been better in some specific "hi fi" criteria. But the Hegel just gets out of the way and plays music in a very self-effacing way. It is colourful, dynamic and rich sounding, with excellent levels of details. But it does not sound dry, bright, etched, lacking dynamics or have any of the other faults which ultimately led me to sell the other dacs. It just does everything right, and nothing wrong.
 
The Yggdrasil has of course received fantastic reviews. From the couple of hours I spent listening to a well run-in demo unit today, the reviews are not (IMO) justified. It was certainly very detailed. But it sounded bright, tonally bleached, with voices in particular sounding recessed. It lacked musical engagement. I did not enjoy listening to it.
 
By contrast, the Metrum Pavane was darker sounding, a shade or two warmer than neutral. But it has rich tonal colours, deep bass, and all the detail without sounding etched or analytical. The thing I find most impressive is the richness and naturalness of the music. Voices and instruments have real presence, notes are full bodied, with density and texture. It may be the most natural sounding DAC I have heard.
 
And the Hegel HD25? It comes surprisingly close. It was clearly better than the Yggdrasil, to my ears. It sounded richer and more colourful, with as much detail, but was also more engaging. But even the HD25 lacked that last bit of tonal depth and fullness of sound that the Pavane has. These differences are not subtle at all. To my ears, the Pavane was substantially better than the Yggdrasil, and enough of an improvement on the HD25 that I felt compelled to take out my wallet and bring it home.

 
Hey all, I am technically new to head-fi (though I registered much earlier) so bear with me a bit.
Hi Ross, your opinions upon Yggdrasil is very honest and I can very much agree with you. It is certainly more to the brighter side of neutral. And especially if paired with a solid-state amp that are also mostly brighter than neutral. It can even become a bit harsh sounding. I am a current owner of Yggdrasil and is planning to sell it. However, I have a second-hand Rockna Wavedream Platinum DAC coming to me from Hong Kong. Planning to do a comparison with the Pavane and Yggdrasil once it arrives, would be interesting. 
 
Jun 3, 2016 at 5:26 AM Post #220 of 682

 
The Rockna arrived yesterday afternoon, need some time to listen and process.  
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  I also managed to listen to the Pavane twice now, both not very long though. So probably need to listen to it again.
 
Jun 3, 2016 at 6:59 AM Post #221 of 682
 
 
The Rockna arrived yesterday afternoon, need some time to listen and process.  
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  I also managed to listen to the Pavane twice now, both not very long though. So probably need to listen to it again.

 
Wow!
That's an audiophile wet dream 
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Also, I'm very interested on the Pavane / Wavedream comparison, you sir have good taste
 
Jun 16, 2016 at 10:36 PM Post #222 of 682
So I sold my musette, a bunch of headphones and used some funds and got this PAVANE. 
 
This thing sounds NOTHING at ALLL like the Musette. Not even close. It is forward and spacious at the same time with speed, clarity, and neutrality. I was expecting some open and clean but soft and chill sounding DAC with a refinement and warmth to it that is like a hot red wine but nooo....I should have listened to @Greed who recommended this...It is hard not to expect a warm and smooth sound from a NOS DAC. But this thing is Raw music. No frequency sounds more emphasized than the other but there is this pure energy yet with a black background and spaciousness all in one. I really need to upgrade my surrounding components and settle in on which headphone to get. I was going to get the HD800 and mod it since I was hoping I could sell the 800S and have two headphones instead.. an HD800 and something else but now I may just have to settle on an Elear and keep adding on little by little. This is staying for sure. Its a fast and clear beast that is huge in sound and size.  A lot bigger than the Yggy as well. 
 
Well paso por paso. My set up sounds pretty foreign to me now but I really like it, this is a set up for me that I add the extra littles to hear the differences in. All other DACS before this made me just want to switch my DAC for the sound I wanted. 
 
Jun 18, 2016 at 2:13 PM Post #223 of 682
The adjectives are entertaining. Much more so than listening to the music.
 
Jun 18, 2016 at 6:51 PM Post #224 of 682
  So I sold my musette, a bunch of headphones and used some funds and got this PAVANE. 
 
This thing sounds NOTHING at ALLL like the Musette. Not even close. It is forward and spacious at the same time with speed, clarity, and neutrality. I was expecting some open and clean but soft and chill sounding DAC with a refinement and warmth to it that is like a hot red wine but nooo....I should have listened to @Greed who recommended this...It is hard not to expect a warm and smooth sound from a NOS DAC. But this thing is Raw music. No frequency sounds more emphasized than the other but there is this pure energy yet with a black background and spaciousness all in one. I really need to upgrade my surrounding components and settle in on which headphone to get. I was going to get the HD800 and mod it since I was hoping I could sell the 800S and have two headphones instead.. an HD800 and something else but now I may just have to settle on an Elear and keep adding on little by little. This is staying for sure. Its a fast and clear beast that is huge in sound and size.  A lot bigger than the Yggy as well. 
 
Well paso por paso. My set up sounds pretty foreign to me now but I really like it, this is a set up for me that I add the extra littles to hear the differences in. All other DACS before this made me just want to switch my DAC for the sound I wanted. 

 
Wisest man on Head-Fi.  
 
No superlatives there - He is the best. 
 
Jun 20, 2016 at 11:27 PM Post #225 of 682
 
  So I sold my musette, a bunch of headphones and used some funds and got this PAVANE. 
 
This thing sounds NOTHING at ALLL like the Musette. Not even close. It is forward and spacious at the same time with speed, clarity, and neutrality. I was expecting some open and clean but soft and chill sounding DAC with a refinement and warmth to it that is like a hot red wine but nooo....I should have listened to @Greed who recommended this...It is hard not to expect a warm and smooth sound from a NOS DAC. But this thing is Raw music. No frequency sounds more emphasized than the other but there is this pure energy yet with a black background and spaciousness all in one. I really need to upgrade my surrounding components and settle in on which headphone to get. I was going to get the HD800 and mod it since I was hoping I could sell the 800S and have two headphones instead.. an HD800 and something else but now I may just have to settle on an Elear and keep adding on little by little. This is staying for sure. Its a fast and clear beast that is huge in sound and size.  A lot bigger than the Yggy as well. 
 
Well paso por paso. My set up sounds pretty foreign to me now but I really like it, this is a set up for me that I add the extra littles to hear the differences in. All other DACS before this made me just want to switch my DAC for the sound I wanted. 

 
Wisest man on Head-Fi.  
 
No superlatives there - He is the best. 

if you ever get one, ever heard one,  or have ever had one. I would like to hear/read how it compares to the chord DAVE. That is a DAC with superlatives written all around it. 
 

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