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Mar 4, 2016 at 8:15 AM Post #1,951 of 25,852
rob watts said:
  Yesterday we did an event in Tokyo, and it went very well, the Japanese reviewing community are frankly astonished about Dave.
 
And today we had confirmation of six reviewers placing personal orders for Dave....
 
We are very humbled by this enthusiasm.
 
Rob
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Rob, I'm very curious how you felt the Dave sound in Tokyo... because in Japan we have 100v low voltage and have no grounding in the electricity socket.
So I would like to know if that difference impacts Dave sound. Would appreciate your opinion.
 
Also, in the event, did you simply connect your Dave to the wall socket? or used any filter kind of things to get better sound quality?
 
Mar 4, 2016 at 8:56 AM Post #1,953 of 25,852
m0nster said:
It's just that Rob seems to be very proud of DAVE, sounds like it's his masterpiece so far. So I just can't get myself to settle for the product that's just not quite his masterpiece... Sounds silly, I know :)

And I realize that you addicted people won't sell it, I wouldn't either. Hang on to it guys and enjoy music at a level hardly heard before except for live!
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I listened to both TT and Dave extensively before purchasing the TT. While I defer to Rob's more acute hearing, for me there was little or no difference on a wide range of material. YMMV

To me it seems the TT is the sweetspot in the range. What the Hugo would be with no size limitations and a chance for second thoughts. That made me quite settled with my choice (along with the sound of course).

Is there a Dave in my future? Quite possibly but I would need to re-evaluate the whole chain: from source to room, to get a system for which Dave is the sweetspot.
 
Mar 4, 2016 at 8:59 AM Post #1,954 of 25,852
gnomen said:
I listened to both TT and Dave extensively before purchasing the TT. While I defer to Rob's more acute hearing, for me there was little or no difference on a wide range of material. YMMV

To me it seems the TT is the sweetspot in the range. What the Hugo would be with no size limitations and a chance for second thoughts. That made me quite settled with my choice (along with the sound of course).

Is there a Dave in my future? Quite possibly but I would need to re-evaluate the whole chain: from source to room, to get a system for which Dave is the sweetspot.
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I have HUGO and still hesitating to go and buy DAVE.  I tested DAVE and could not hear a difference big enough with my HUGO, but it was not in perfect listening conditions...
 
--> Did you hear a difference in SQ between the HUGO and the TT ? 
 
Mar 4, 2016 at 9:47 AM Post #1,956 of 25,852
To my ears the difference between the TT is somehow huge. I can't put my finger on it, but the music just seems to fall out of the TT with ease and authority. And this just using the DAC portion with my external amp.
(It is also major using the amp alone vs. the Hugo amp, but I still prefer my Rudistor amp with either.) I now have long experience with both the Hugo and the Hugo TT. I use USB input to the TT.
 
Mar 4, 2016 at 9:47 AM Post #1,957 of 25,852
And Rob, can you give a hint to the price level of the upcoming digital amp?
 
It's not that I need one – I'm perfectly satisfied with DAVE for driving dynamic headphones –, I'm just curious. Also in the context of an electrostatic variant, of course.
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Mar 4, 2016 at 10:01 AM Post #1,958 of 25,852
jazz said:
  And Rob, can you give a hint to the price level of the upcoming digital amp?
 
It's not that I need one – I'm perfectly satisfied with DAVE for driving dynamic headphones –, I'm just curious. Also in the context of an electrostatic variant, of course.
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Again bit early, but the intention is more TT price than Dave.
 
As to sound quality Hugo to Dave - I wish it was closer, then I would not need to drag a Dave with me everywhere on my carry on! He has clocked up 150,000 miles so far.
 
Rob
 
Mar 4, 2016 at 10:06 AM Post #1,959 of 25,852
gnomen said:
I listened to both TT and Dave extensively before purchasing the TT. While I defer to Rob's more acute hearing, for me there was little or no difference on a wide range of material. YMMV

To me it seems the TT is the sweetspot in the range. What the Hugo would be with no size limitations and a chance for second thoughts. That made me quite settled with my choice (along with the sound of course).

Is there a Dave in my future? Quite possibly but I would need to re-evaluate the whole chain: from source to room, to get a system for which Dave is the sweetspot.
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bmichels said:
I have HUGO and still hesitating to go and buy DAVE.  I tested DAVE and could not hear a difference big enough with my HUGO, but it was not in perfect listening conditions...

--> Did you hear a difference in SQ between the HUGO and the TT ? 
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A while ago i home demo the hugo tt and the QBD76 for 2 weeks,the hugo tt sounded abit better than my hugo,the QBD76 sounded much better than my Hugo or the hugo tt,I got the QBD76.
Now guys i don't know how you've listed to Dave,i do know that Dave takes alot of running in,but i can tell you this,Dave is in a totally different league to both of them,and i say this without any hesitation.
 
Mar 4, 2016 at 10:13 AM Post #1,960 of 25,852
bmichels said:
I have HUGO and still hesitating to go and buy DAVE.  I tested DAVE and could not hear a difference big enough with my HUGO, but it was not in perfect listening conditions...

--> Did you hear a difference in SQ between the HUGO and the TT ? 
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Yes. A very clear difference: depth, smoothness, detail. I would have found it difficult to listen to the Hugo as a permanent choice unless a trade-off for portability was essential.

Must say I was listening to the Hugo via USB. From what others have said here, optical might be better. And there might be other steps to tame it. But the TT works right out of the box and seems quite immune to cables and input choices.

I also think it depends on your choice of music. I listened to a wide range of material, from pop to jazz to classical, plugged and unplugged, soloists to massed voices and orchestra. For some of this the startling qualities of the Hugo over ride any pickiness, but in other cases I could not settle with it. No such problems with the TT - crested every challenge with ease.
 
Mar 4, 2016 at 10:22 AM Post #1,961 of 25,852
rob watts said:
 
jazz said:
  And Rob, can you give a hint to the price level of the upcoming digital amp?
 
It's not that I need one – I'm perfectly satisfied with DAVE for driving dynamic headphones –, I'm just curious. Also in the context of an electrostatic variant, of course.
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Again bit early, but the intention is more TT price than Dave.
 
As to sound quality Hugo to Dave - I wish it was closer, then I would not need to drag a Dave with me everywhere on my carry on! He has clocked up 150,000 miles so far.
 
Rob
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Thank you, Sir!
 
Mar 4, 2016 at 10:29 AM Post #1,962 of 25,852
rgs9200m said:
  To my ears the difference between the TT is somehow huge. I can't put my finger on it, but the music just seems to fall out of the TT with ease and authority. And this just using the DAC portion with my external amp.
(It is also major using the amp alone vs. the Hugo amp, but I still prefer my Rudistor amp with either.) I now have long experience with both the Hugo and the Hugo TT. I use USB input to the TT.
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Hi rgs9200m
 
Have you by chance auditioned the RP5 cav? That's the only RudiStor amp I've heard. If yes, does your RP010B sound any similar?
 
Mar 4, 2016 at 10:37 AM Post #1,963 of 25,852
rob watts said:
  Again bit early, but the intention is more TT price than Dave.
 
As to sound quality Hugo to Dave - I wish it was closer, then I would not need to drag a Dave with me everywhere on my carry on! He has clocked up 150,000 miles so far.
 
Rob
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Rob,
 
Is also the TT more immude to Source's jitter  (like the DAVE) ? 
 
Mar 4, 2016 at 10:47 AM Post #1,964 of 25,852
hi bmichels
 
Don't hesitate, go for the Hugo TT! – It seems to be your destiny to prefer the second best (see HifiMan Edition X!).
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