1. massive attack is not a band, they are a "group"

2. i don't hate dave matthews because i heard their album "everyday", i hate dave matthews because i've heard them, period. i can't stand anything i've heard by them, and i've certainly heard enough over the years.

3. my saying that they are overrated might be out of bounds for a bunch of you. i'm not sure of everybody's age on this board, or what their status is in life but man, everyone i met at college was all about a very small list of things: drinking, clubbing, sexing, dave matthews band, phish, and abercrombie & fitch. that's it. this was everybody's life. and everybody quoted dave matthews songs in their aim profiles and i just got sick of seeing/hearing that everywhere. that is why i say they are overrated. a band like that, as popular as that, just has to be.

4. everyone always gives me crap about how i should read their lyrics and they mean so much.. na na na. everything i've seen of their lyrics so far sounds like a bad cross between a hallmark greeting card and a danielle steel novel. way too cheesey for me, but hey.. that's just my crappy opinion. not many people listen to the bands i like, so i imagine that means all my music is much much worse.. but i still say, if you want good lyrics, go buy: sunny day real estate - diary, dashboard confessional - the swiss army romance, or anything by tori amos (ani difranco too).

everyone appears to be the same to me, so i feel the need to lash out irrationally on occasion.

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Ok, I understand because you've been overexposed to them by a bunch of yuppie jackasses. I don't drink, club, i fkn hate Phish and the dead for that matter, and don't wear overpriced clothing. I really got into dmb because of 'crash'

For me, i can pop this and just jam along to it, u know, when you gotta organize your room or something (or reading the posts on here!). The music itself is simply amazing, the lyrics? I dunno, the only song i really got into was 'the last stop' from their 'before these crowded streets' cd. Actually i got into that song from a bootleg i have, the performance was amazing, full of raw emotion!

Overexposure tends to kill my appetite in any band, i can't remember the last time i listened to any Metallica cd from beginning to end and i tend to avoid bands that get play time on MTV. Linkin Park was probably the only cd i grabbed due to MTV videos. It's all good.

Hmm...well.....I don't like Dashboard Confessionals because this annoying kid loves em so much - and has an obsession with them - and......well........he scares me.

Interesting music, tho......

HIS first album is all that counts. i say HIM not them because this was when he was solo, and when he was good. they suck ass now and they are now a perfect example of how the world works and why it sickens me.

Blue Oyster Cult - "Secret Treaties."

No 'Reaper,' no 'Godzilla,' no 'Burning For You.' This, BOC's third album is where they got the balance just right-- they'd figured out how to write really cool full-blown songs, but hadn't yet lost their edge and gone commercial. Not a concept album in the full sense, yet all 8 songs seem connected in some strange way. Rocking, mysterious, lyrical, a wonderful pathos pervades the whole affair. Listen and know that Buck Dharma is underappreciated as a guitar god. (Better yet, listen to "Subhuman" on BOC's "On Your Feet or On Your Knees" live album.) 'Secret Treaties' spent most of my senior year of high school on the turntable, and some of you youngsters with more current tastes may just enjoy it, too. Check out the recent remaster (tho the bonus tracks are junk) or get a used lp. Great artwork, too.

BTW, I happen to prefer the Stone Roses' 'Second Coming' to their first album, though that may be due to my having heard it first.

AND, 'The Bends' is more straight-ahead rock & roll than 'OK Computer,' but it is wonderfully brilliant as well. Or is it brilliantly wonderful?!?

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I would agree with this. I love BOC and enjoy things from most of the albums, but Secret Treaties is my favourite by far. It just has this prevalent darkness and evil feeling within. "Astronomy" gives chills, sort of like the feeling of emptiness after the world has ended. The only other BOC album that came close to recapturing this was "Cultosaurus Erectus". And I agree, Buck Dharma is as great a guitarist as anyone who ever lived or died.

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I have to agree I like this album a lot, but they are not, IMHO, a one-shot deal. I think Tyranny & Mvtation is seriously underrated, and, as Beagle pointed out (Cultosaurus Erectus happens to be one of my favourites, also), they have done many other very good entire albums.

That said, Secret Treaties is well nigh perfect. Substituting a synth solo on "Flaming Telepaths" was sheer genious, and the transition at the end of that song to the beginning of "Astronomy" is air-catchingly breathtaking. Amongst other things.