audionewbi said:

  Rainy Saturday, I will wait another day till I hear the CDM for myself. 

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I think you'll like it. It is a completely different continental. Completely stable, but with that wonderful thing called valves at the engine.

mmm.....iPod Touch is problem-free with the CDM? Okey-dokey. Note 4 + CDM = not working? Okey-dokey, I ll avoid Androids.

shigzeo said:

 
I think you'll like it. It is a completely different continental. Completely stable, but with that wonderful thing called valves at the engine.

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That is what is scaring me. I am going there as someone who has zero experience with vacuum tubes so it should be a nice to see how it is. Should be fun, I will go early in the morning where my ears is not fatigue by anything. I noticed different time of the day I am more sensitive to treble. 

raypin said:

  mmm.....iPod Touch 128 GB is problem-free with the CDM? Okey-dokey. Note 4 + CDM = not working? Okey-dokey, I ll avoid Androids.

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I am hoping that I can use my Sony Xperia Z3 tablet with it. So far it paired with everything, if it pairs with CDM it will make for a great coffee table setup. 

mmm.....is it just me but it is a bit of a downer to be using a smartphone/iPod Touch as DAP to a 1500 bucks amp/dac and partnered with a xxxxx worth of iems or headphone. Let's see: CDM, Layla then a cheapass iPod Touch or CDM, Audeze then a cheapass Android......mmm......what the fudge! Somehow, I can get my brain to wrap around the combo. Walang arrive. Bawas pogi points (no cachet!). But it is the only way (ex-laptop/MacBook) to fully utilize the CDM. I hate to compromise. The next time I meet my friends (non-headphiles), they'll probably remark "iPod Touch and What a huge battery bank."

raypin said:

  mmm.....is it just me but it is a bit of a downer to be using a smartphone/iPod Touch as DAP to a 1500 bucks amp/dac and partnered with a xxxxx worth of iems or headphone. Let's see: CDM, Layla then a cheapass iPod Touch or CDM, Audeze then a cheapass Android......mmm......what the fudge! Somehow, I can get my brain to wrap around the combo. Walang arrive. Bawas pogi points (no cachet!).

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It is whatever works for you, that is how I see it.
 
Sony Z3 compact works really well with HUGO, battery last probably 6-8 hours when feeding DSD, it also offers NAS access which is a really nice feature. Try it if you can. Performance wise in digital out it is much more stable than ZX-1 and ZX-2.

audionewbi said:

  It is whatever works for you, that is how I see it.
 
Sony Z3 compact works really well with HUGO, battery last probably 6-8 hours when feeding DSD, it also offers NAS access which is a really nice feature. Try it if you can. Performance wise in digital out it is much more stable than ZX-1 and ZX-2.

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mmm.....NAS is not useful for me: Can't take my NAS outside my room or when I'm outside. I'm perfectly fine with my Surface Pro 3 to CDM at home (serves as my de facto desktop rig). Another issue is more practical: IPod Touch capacity is a paltry 128 GB. Simply not enough!!!! Then there's the ugly interconnect (camera kit adaptor etc.).

raypin said:

  mmm.....NAS is not useful for me: Can't take my NAS outside my room or when I'm outside. I'm perfectly fine with my Surface Pro 3 to CDM at home (serves as my de facto desktop rig). Another issue is more practical: IPod Touch capacity is a paltry 128 GB. Simply not enough!!!! Then there's the ugly interconnect (camera kit adaptor etc.).

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With things like ipod you need the CCK. But Z3 works with a mico-micro which can be easily made. It has an expansion slot and also with the ease of connectivity with WiFi HDD you can take your entire music archive anywhere. 

Here is a question for those out there....The new 380 costs 3500.00 dollars and i am assuming it has a world class DAC as part of the product.I currently own a 240 and a 120 Titan which I use with my Chord Hugo and I use my 240 on its own when I am on the run or on the road with my 846's.I do understand the need to have more power and thus a better amp when driving power hungry cans but I am somewhat dubious as to whether the DAC in the CDM is better or even as good as the DAC's in either the 240 or the 380.This is not a knock on the CDM,I repeat I am not criticizing the CDM I am however curious because as a fellow audiophile nut I am always interested in any new highly acclaimed product.
 
Originally Posted by raypin 
 
mmm.....is it just me but it is a bit of a downer to be using a smartphone/iPod Touch as DAP to a 1500 bucks amp/dac and partnered with a xxxxx worth of iems or headphone. Let's see: CDM, Layla then a cheapass iPod Touch or CDM, Audeze then a cheapass Android......mmm......what the fudge! Somehow, I can get my brain to wrap around the combo. Walang arrive. Bawas pogi points (no cachet!).
 
As far as I am concerned I take the exact opposite point of view.To me if i am going to use a DAC/AMP combo I am going to use it with an Iphone or a less expensive AK model etc,it makes far less sense to me to spend 3500.00 for a 380 which has to my knowledge a high end and first class DAC and then use such an expensive well equipped DAC as a transport.

running full balanced, can seriously rival some desktop setups ...
 

mmm.....I think the key strength of the CDM is not the DAC nor the Amp. It is both. It is a case of the whole is greater than the sum of the parts. The best demonstration of the CDM's power/performance is through USB. From there, you have to or you must draw your own conclusions based on what you need or want and based on what you hear, subject to opportunity costs (CDM plus old dap, cdm plus new dap, or no cdm but new dap etc.).

Question for uncle E1.....again no disrespect meant......how different would it sound if you listened to the CDM using an AK100 or any other source rather than spending 3500.00 dollars to use the 380 with it?Again,no disrespect because I own the 240 myself,I just do not understand the need to use such an expensive transport if you are going to be bypassing the DAC anyway?

my understanding is the photo from Uncle E1, the AK380 is the DAC and the CDM is the amp, so its like the best of both world coming together and the resultant flows into the Ether and bliss is created....
 
 
Do correct me if i am wrong, mr. Uncle E1.
 
=)

mmm.......if I may: to paraphrase a fellow headfier, because he can. Lol! I love the set-up. Same with the Headfonia set (ak, chord, cdm, he1k). Just enjoy the headfi porn, men.

jlbrach said:

  Question for uncle E1.....again no disrespect meant......how different would it sound if you listened to the CDM using an AK100 or any other source rather than spending 3500.00 dollars to use the 380 with it?Again,no disrespect because I own the 240 myself,I just do not understand the need to use such an expensive transport if you are going to be bypassing the DAC anyway?

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muah said:

  my understanding is the photo from Uncle E1, the AK380 is the DAC and the CDM is the amp, so its like the best of both world coming together and the resultant flows into the Ether and bliss is created....
 
 
Do correct me if i am wrong, mr. Uncle E1.
 
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ak380 > balanced (analog) > cdm > balanced > ether