While you are all correct about this being summit-fi, at the end of the day, it's just a title at the top of the page that doesn't really mean much... I think a lot of people browsing this thread are HiFiMan fans in general and are used to their more affordable range of high end performers. They are definitely entitled to their opinions and I can understand the frustration over such a large price jump in their latest release. I used to share their views and thought headphones costing 2 or 3 thousand dollars (or more) were unnecessarily extravagant products that I would never buy, but a year or two after being introduced to these products, I ended up buying an Abyss. I was sharing my experience of why my views changed and keeping in mind that I am not necessarily wealthy - I am in an average paying job on wages and took a year of putting money aside in my sock drawer (not literally) to buy something that I really liked and why it was worth it to me. I thought it might be a valid experience to other people looking at the he1k thinking how stupid hifiman is for doing this and how they'll never buy one, because I was in exactly their position not that long ago. Cost may be of no object to some people here, but there are a lot of loyal hifiman customers who aren't in that position so talking about cost is relevant to some.