The FiiO X3 2nd gen (ex X3K, X3II) Thread : 192K/24B, CS4398,Native DSD, USB DAC with LO and inline remote
May 26, 2015 at 2:47 PM Post #3,766 of 9,972
  Completely the opposide. 
 
I cannot use EQ with ie800. For some reason, EQ only makes them bassy, but using the bass slider on E12A, it makes them have more weight to each musical note, while keeping it's top class clarity, and sparky and flashy treble. It is a very nice IEM. It took me 3 hours to decide that the smallest tips were the best. Ovals provided weird fit for me, and big and medium would hurt my ears a little. 
 
Another nice thing about ie800 is that you cannot push it too deep or too shallow, it ajusts itself. 
 
I wish i could reproduce the curve of the bass slider by EQ, to not have to carry a stack with me.

 
By looking at the curve on Inner Fidelity I can only imagine how loud the bass is with bass boost, as it's already at +15 dB at 20 Hz (with reference to 1 kHz) without, and still no drop-off. With my pair and my ears I have to shift the 31 Hz band down by 5.6 dB, the 65 Hz band still by 3.4 dB for a (passably) natural sonic balance.
 
May 26, 2015 at 3:11 PM Post #3,767 of 9,972
   
By looking at the curve on Inner Fidelity I can only imagine how loud the bass is with bass boost, as it's already at +15 dB at 20 Hz (with reference to 1 kHz) without, and still no drop-off. With my pair and my ears I have to shift the 31 kHz band down by 5.6 dB, the 65 Hz band still by 3.4 dB for a (passably) natural sonic balance.

Sorry, i guess that i do not use that as i said. In the exact moment of typing i was using, but on second thought, and after reading your thought, it seems rather un-necessary. 
 
I am still adjusting, I come from ie8. Using ie8, i needed to use that bass knob to add sub bass, to equalize the mid bass hump, just adjusting the hump down was not making it better. So far ie800 is able to adapt to every adjustment i make, and sounds amazing.
 
I though feel the need to pump the mids sometimes, up at 500 by 1 db, at 1 khz by 2db, at 2khz by 2db, at 4 khz by 1 db.
 
But for most part, i use ie800 without adjustments, this my biggest shock, i can actually accept their sound as great without adjusting it. 
 
May 26, 2015 at 3:55 PM Post #3,768 of 9,972
Sounds like a Mac specific problem, I use mine as a DAC for my Windows PC quite a lot and i've never had any dropouts with youtube or streaming TV/Movies etc.
Might be the drivers playing up, try uninstalling and reinstalling them to see if that helps. 


Thanks SieB, no drivers to install for mac as far as I'm aware - plug and play so to speak. I have tried rebooting the mac and the x3 and also changing usb ports - still drops audio from streaming services. The older E17 plays them perfectly.

Anybody else have experience with similar dropouts?
 
May 26, 2015 at 3:59 PM Post #3,769 of 9,972
Thanks SieB, no drivers to install for mac as far as I'm aware - plug and play so to speak. I have tried rebooting the mac and the x3 and also changing usb ports - still drops audio from streaming services. The older E17 plays them perfectly.

Anybody else have experience with similar dropouts?

I get similar dropouts for youtube. 
 
It is from the PC.
 
I get the problem with all hardware that is using ASIO. It is because the PC is not able to stream the video and audio data in real time.
 
May 26, 2015 at 4:05 PM Post #3,770 of 9,972
  The gain setting only affects the headphone out, not the line out. And with sensitive headphones it should make no difference in the headphone output – I expect FiiO to care for corresponding buffering to avoid loss of resolution. Otherwise you would simply lose it by decreasing the volume, so it doesn't matter.

Just so that I understand you...are you saying that switching the X3ii to HI GAIN when using the LINE OUT has NO affect (as in doesn't work)?  Do you mean that it only works when using the Headphone Out?
 
May 26, 2015 at 4:08 PM Post #3,771 of 9,972
Just so that I understand you...are you saying that switching the X3ii to HI GAIN when using the LINE OUT has NO affect (as in doesn't work)?  Do you mean that it only works when using the Headphone Out?


Yes, gain control is done in the amp section of the device which is bypassed when using line out. Gain and volume have zero effect when using line out.
 
May 26, 2015 at 4:09 PM Post #3,772 of 9,972
Yes, gain control is done in the amp section of the device which is bypassed when using line out. Gain and volume have zero effect when using line out.

Thoguh it would be great to enable EQ with line out, you can just activate eq to have a 6db attenuation, and you could set it to have 12 db attenuation at best. Pretty usefull.
 
May 26, 2015 at 4:11 PM Post #3,773 of 9,972
Thoguh it would be great to enable EQ with line out, you can just activate eq to have a 6db attenuation, and you could set it to have 12 db attenuation at best. Pretty usefull.


As noted already...... Coming in an updated FW. FiiO is busy right now with the launch of the X5 II and the X7 development, but they said it's coming.
 
May 26, 2015 at 4:25 PM Post #3,775 of 9,972
Yes, gain control is done in the amp section of the device which is bypassed when using line out. Gain and volume have zero effect when using line out.

LOL...that's what I thought...I misunderstood what xsk313t0rx was saying...for some reason I mistakenly thought the X3ii would permit the High Gain to work from the Line Out
 
May 26, 2015 at 4:45 PM Post #3,776 of 9,972
Thanks SieB, no drivers to install for mac as far as I'm aware - plug and play so to speak. I have tried rebooting the mac and the x3 and also changing usb ports - still drops audio from streaming services. The older E17 plays them perfectly.

Anybody else have experience with similar dropouts?


Try changing the bitrate in the audio midi app from 16 to 24 bit and see if that still is the case.
 
May 26, 2015 at 5:39 PM Post #3,777 of 9,972
Try changing the bitrate in the audio midi app from 16 to 24 bit and see if that still is the case.

Awesome tip mate - thanks! Although it was already on 24bit (defaulted and couldn't change it) however, the format was set to 176400Hz so I set it to 192000HZ and the dropouts stopped straight away. I tried changing it on the fly back and forwards and it always dropped on 176. Thanks again - the internet just paid for itself again :) cheers
 
May 26, 2015 at 6:25 PM Post #3,778 of 9,972
  Awesome tip mate - thanks! Although it was already on 24bit (defaulted and couldn't change it) however, the format was set to 176400Hz so I set it to 192000HZ and the dropouts stopped straight away. I tried changing it on the fly back and forwards and it always dropped on 176. Thanks again - the internet just paid for itself again :) cheers

 
So it's not just me then... while I'm using Windows, for some reason whenever I play music at the 176 sampling rate I'm getting dropouts too. Doesn't seem to happen at the other sampling rates.
 
May 26, 2015 at 8:33 PM Post #3,779 of 9,972
True. On the other hand, you can boost your bass with the EQ as well – limited to + 6 dB, though. Actually the bass boost hysteria is something like the antithesis to the audiophile quest for neutrality, so I'm glad about FiiOs current EQ approach allowing for a more subtle equalization of headphone/earphone nonlinearities.


Drop all the other sliders to -6dB, and you effectively get a 12dB swing. Not that I'd want to do that, but I'm betting there are some diehard bassheads who do that.
 
May 26, 2015 at 9:07 PM Post #3,780 of 9,972
Drop all the other sliders to -6dB, and you effectively get a 12dB swing. Not that I'd want to do that, but I'm betting there are some diehard bassheads who do that.

 
Indeed! 
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