1964 Ears Adel IEMs
May 4, 2016 at 10:20 PM Post #5,088 of 9,124
So looking forward to the availability of the bubble ... that'll take the U-Series IEMs to the next level.
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May 4, 2016 at 11:26 PM Post #5,089 of 9,124
So its just a fancy ear tip or what 
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And is it just me or the bubble popped out from the second listener's ears when he was supposed to be listening 
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 I mean you can look at the embedded video preview picture. That tube inside the bubble is not even in his ear
 
May 4, 2016 at 11:28 PM Post #5,090 of 9,124
  So its just a fancy ear tip or what 
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And is it just me or the bubble popped out from the second listener's ears when he was supposed to be listening 
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 I mean you can look at the embedded video preview picture. That tube inside the bubble is not even in his ear

Here's the whole bubble playlist. Should answer your questions.

https://youtu.be/DRbgwNmymH4?list=PL0YGE_456HaP3Q3VJWWBEt4dmgIEczspy
 
May 4, 2016 at 11:56 PM Post #5,091 of 9,124
 
  So its just a fancy ear tip or what 
confused.gif

 
And is it just me or the bubble popped out from the second listener's ears when he was supposed to be listening 
confused.gif
 I mean you can look at the embedded video preview picture. That tube inside the bubble is not even in his ear

Here's the whole bubble playlist. Should answer your questions.

https://youtu.be/DRbgwNmymH4?list=PL0YGE_456HaP3Q3VJWWBEt4dmgIEczspy

 
Not really.
 
 
This is what the bubble looks like when it is inflate. The tube inside looks like a regular sound tube you will use in building a ciem, which is not flexible enough to bend in an ear canal as the bubble inflated. 

 
 
This is how the bubble positioned during the entire listening session of the man who claimed his left ear is deaf. You can clearly see that the sound tube is not bending toward the ear canal.  

 
May 4, 2016 at 11:59 PM Post #5,092 of 9,124
   
Not really.
 
 
This is what the bubble looks like when it is inflate. The tube inside looks like a regular sound tube you will use in building a ciem, which is not flexible enough to bend in an ear canal as the bubble inflated. 

 
 
This is how the bubble positioned during the entire listening session of Stephen Ambrose, who claimed his left ear is deaf. You can clearly see that the sound tube is not bending toward the ear canal.  

With David Mullins it did work it's way out a bit. But because it delivers the sound through the bubble, as well as the sound tube, it's still able to convey sound to him. Yes it's better when the tube & bubble are both in the ear canal, but during his listening he had moved a good amount and it migrated.
 
May 5, 2016 at 12:11 AM Post #5,093 of 9,124
 
   
Not really.
 
 
This is what the bubble looks like when it is inflate. The tube inside looks like a regular sound tube you will use in building a ciem, which is not flexible enough to bend in an ear canal as the bubble inflated. 
 
 
This is how the bubble positioned during the entire listening session of the man who claimed his left ear is deaf. You can clearly see that the sound tube is not bending toward the ear canal.  
 

With David Mullins it did work it's way out a bit. But because it delivers the sound through the bubble, as well as the sound tube, it's still able to convey sound to him. Yes it's better when the tube & bubble are both in the ear canal, but during his listening he had moved a good amount and it migrated.

 
So there's a sound tube inside a cylinder-shape bubble inflated from a thin (plastic?) film, and you are saying the sound can travel not only through the tube, but also vibrates tube AND vibrates the air in the bubble AND vibrates the bubble itself AND the vibration of the bubble makes meaningful sound like music? 
 
If this driver went reeeeally loud that makes sense, but not by much. 
 
May 5, 2016 at 12:13 AM Post #5,094 of 9,124
   
So there's a sound tube inside a cylinder-shape bubble inflated from a thin (plastic?) film, and you are saying the sound can travel not only through the tube, but also vibrates tube AND vibrates the air in the bubble AND vibrates the bubble itself AND the vibration of the bubble makes meaningful sound like music? 
 
If this driver went reeeeally loud that makes sense, but not by much. 

Yes and it's actually much more efficient to deliver the sound that way due to the better coupling to the ear, so you listen at a much lower volume. Usually my Hugo doesn't go much above the faint pink color. 
 
May 5, 2016 at 12:20 AM Post #5,095 of 9,124
 
   
So there's a sound tube inside a cylinder-shape bubble inflated from a thin (plastic?) film, and you are saying the sound can travel not only through the tube, but also vibrates tube AND vibrates the air in the bubble AND vibrates the bubble itself AND the vibration of the bubble makes meaningful sound like music? 
 
If this driver went reeeeally loud that makes sense, but not by much. 

Yes and it's actually much more efficient to deliver the sound that way due to the better coupling to the ear, so you listen at a much lower volume. Usually my Hugo doesn't go much above the faint pink color. 

 
Are you saying it is efficient to deliver sound by vibrating a thin plastic film wrapping around a driver and pushing air between them? Try it on you speaker, smh
 
May 5, 2016 at 12:27 AM Post #5,096 of 9,124
 
Are you saying it is efficient to deliver sound by vibrating a thin plastic film wrapping around a driver and pushing air between them? Try it on you speaker, smh

 
And they all shook their heads when Copernicus said, Sun was in the center, and not Earth. Just saying, it's good to keep an open mind.
 
May 5, 2016 at 12:27 AM Post #5,097 of 9,124
   
Are you saying it is efficient to deliver sound by vibrating a thin plastic film wrapping around a driver and pushing air between them? Try it on you speaker, smh

I'm saying it's more efficient than funneling sound through a hard acrylic shell & tubes. The membrane is the same stuff doctors use for making artificial heart valves, it's incredibly thin yet strong.

But since you mention speakers, if you have a balloon laying around, seal and ear bud to the part where you normally blow into. Use your other hand to adjust pressure on that balloon's floppy side, you'll find a spot where you match the impedance and can feel it all throughout your hand.

It's the same thing with the bubble, only in a much MUCH more sensitive part of the body.
 
May 5, 2016 at 12:46 AM Post #5,098 of 9,124
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And they all shook their heads when Copernicus said, Sun was in the center, and not Earth. Just saying, it's good to keep an open mind.

 
Lolll this thing gets so funny!!!
Anyway I am outta here. I am not supposed to be in this thread from the start. 
Good luck with your business, 1964. I was a fan of your V8. 
And btw Canyon, if you listen to an iem with Hugo at the faint pink volume that goes past the blue, you are pretty deaf I'd say. 
 
 
But srsly, for future reader who are interested, start from http://www.head-fi.org/t/739712/1964-ears-adel-iems/5100#post_12557346 
 
May 5, 2016 at 12:47 AM Post #5,099 of 9,124
I've watched one or two of the reaction videos for the bubble, but not any about the tech behind it.
 
This is my thinking:
 - Sound is vibration in a medium
 - Air is the medium that is usually in our ears, and so is usually the medium we vibrate in all sorts of different ways to express sounds
 - Other mediums still work, we still hear underwater, for instance
 - Air is not a good medium for transmitting any kind of wave, really, because its not very dense
 - Hence why we have the concept of a subwoofer
 - But air does not dull or interfere much with the mid-to-high frequencies we are used to
 - So, find a medium much denser than air (i.e something solid) that can still transmit mid-to-high frequencies at the levels we are used to, stick it in our ears and put vibrations through it, and we'll hear it much clearer than with air
 
Is that the idea? Seems fairly straightforward. 
 

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