Fulla (by) Schiit - News, photos, thoughts, impressions, etc.
Nov 5, 2015 at 8:59 AM Post #961 of 1,040
Hello everyone. Its my first post here. I live in south Korea and recently ordered the Schiit Fulla for portable use. I use a Samsung Galaxy Note 5 and bought a USB Micro to Mini cable from amazon to pair with the Fulla. But after I revived it, I realized that my phone didn't recognize the Fulla. To make sure the DAC itself isn't broken, I hooked it up with my PC and sure enough, it worked perfectly fine. Is the Fulla itself unable to work with a smartphone or is the USB mini to micro cable the problem? I really want to use the Fulla with my smartphone.... truly an incredible device for its size.

 
Either your smartphone doesn't support USB DAC natively or it doesn't output enough power to power up Fulla.
 
Download this and install it on your Note 5: http://www.audio-evolution.com/downloads/USBAudioPlayerPROTrial_2.2.4.apk
If it detects Fulla, then it means your Note 5 doesn't have native USB DAC support. You can buy the full version of the apps on PlayStore and play music through it.
 
If it doesn't detect Fulla, it means your Note 5 doesn't have enough power to power up Fulla. You will probably have to use a powered USB hub, which will be very cumbersome.
 
In any case, if you are looking for a USB DAC for Andriod, Fulla is actually not the best of choice.
 
Nov 5, 2015 at 9:52 AM Post #962 of 1,040
Either your smartphone doesn't support USB DAC natively or it doesn't output enough power to power up Fulla.

Download this and install it on your Note 5: http://www.audio-evolution.com/downloads/USBAudioPlayerPROTrial_2.2.4.apk
If it detects Fulla, then it means your Note 5 doesn't have native USB DAC support. You can buy the full version of the apps on PlayStore and play music through it.

If it doesn't detect Fulla, it means your Note 5 doesn't have enough power to power up Fulla. You will probably have to use a powered USB hub, which will be very cumbersome.

In any case, if you are looking for a USB DAC for Andriod, Fulla is actually not the best of choice.

Still doesn't work. The thing is though, the Sony PHA DAC worked fine with the note 5. And I also checked out Schiit's webstite and it says that the Fulla should work fine with portable devices including iphones and androids.
 
Nov 5, 2015 at 11:01 AM Post #963 of 1,040
Still doesn't work. The thing is though, the Sony PHA DAC worked fine with the note 5. And I also checked out Schiit's webstite and it says that the Fulla should work fine with portable devices including iphones and androids.

 
Sony PHA series works because they are all self-powered, which Fulla isn't.
 
As pointed out by Schiit's FAQ, Fulla draws too much power that most smartphone, iPhone and Android included, won't be able to power it up without the help of an external power source (which can be a powered USB hub or a cleaver cable adapter usually referred an 'USB power injector'). The fact that USB Audio Player Pro doesn't detect Fulla is a very good indicator that the lack of power is most likely the problem. That is why I said Fulla is not the best choice for USB DAC on Android. You should have looked for a self-power USB DAC/amp rather than Fulla to have a better chance of getting them working together without too much complication.
 
Here is Schiit's Fulla FAQ (see RED):
  What about connecting to Linux computers, Chromebooks, iPhones/iPads, Android phones, PS4, smart toasters, Google Glass, espresso machines, etc?
In order:
 
Linux: any distro supporting USB Audio Class 1 or 2 should be fine. Plug and play.
Chromebooks: we've had it work with many Intel-based Chromebooks, but this isn't a complete survey. YMMV.
iPhones: you'll need iOS 7 or 8,  the magic overpriced Apple cable and a power source (hub or battery, or, for full LOLs, Wyrd.) This is covered in the Guides/Getting Connected section of the site, with links to cables, hubs, etc.
Android: you'll need Android 4 or 5, software for 4, and a power source. As above, this is covered in the Guides/Getting Connected section of the site.
PS4: We've had customers report our USB DACs work on a PS4, so Fulla should as well. Should.
Smart toasters, Google Glass, espresso machines: come on, you know we're kidding here, right?
 

 
Nov 6, 2015 at 2:59 PM Post #964 of 1,040
  being a poor student, was actually planning to get a magni 2 to amp the signal out from motherboard, for my dt880 first and modi later.
 
seems like my wallet and ears would be thankful for fulla now.

 
The Fulla Sounds better than anything I have heard from a Standard Mother board. If you are strapped for cash Fulla would be My suggestion. It comes with the USB Cable and a Nifty little case. All you do is plug it in, change the sound card config and go.

 
One thing to Note about the Fulla ,Like the Original Modi.
Bit Depth and Sample Rates Supported: 16/44.1 to 24/96, including 24/88.2.
 

I have The M/M Uber combo as well as a Modi 2 U/ Vali at work and also Bifrost MB/Valhalla 2 and a fulla as well (yes schitt is everywhere). My fulla is always in My headphone Case. With Schiit all over the place I still use my fulla, I used it last night while laying on my couch hooked up to my laptop and am still just as please with it now as I was when I first Got it a Year ago.
 
Nov 8, 2015 at 8:20 AM Post #965 of 1,040
Well then... I guess the only way to use it portable is to get a USB hub or a power injector. I'm using a modi 2 with the Project Ember from garage 1217 for my PC setup and decided to just stick with the Fulla for my Note 5. Are there any Powered USB hub or injector that you guys could suggest? I really don't want to sell it.....
 
Nov 8, 2015 at 10:05 AM Post #966 of 1,040
Well then... I guess the only way to use it portable is to get a USB hub or a power injector. I'm using a modi 2 with the Project Ember from garage 1217 for my PC setup and decided to just stick with the Fulla for my Note 5. Are there any Powered USB hub or injector that you guys could suggest? I really don't want to sell it.....

 
You can try this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/4-Port-Micro-USB-Power-Charging-OTG-Hub-Cable-for-Smartphone-Android-Tablet-PC-/381308856130?hash=item58c7c76742:g:TPwAAOSwjVVVjVvu
 
I don't know if it will work for you as I don't have a Note 5, but the micro USB hub itself does work on my other Android smartphone for powering USB DAC. First, select OTG mode, USB power (can be either USB wall adapter or power bank) goes into the micro USB female port, then connect Fulla to one of the USB-A female port.
 
Nov 8, 2015 at 10:43 PM Post #967 of 1,040
You can try this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/4-Port-Micro-USB-Power-Charging-OTG-Hub-Cable-for-Smartphone-Android-Tablet-PC-/381308856130?hash=item58c7c76742:g:TPwAAOSwjVVVjVvu

I don't know if it will work for you as I don't have a Note 5, but the micro USB hub itself does work on my other Android smartphone for powering USB DAC. First, select OTG mode, USB power (can be either USB wall adapter or power bank) goes into the micro USB female port, then connect Fulla to one of the USB-A female port.

So it dosen't need a separate power supply?
 
Nov 9, 2015 at 8:19 AM Post #968 of 1,040
So it dosen't need a separate power supply?

 
As I said, "USB power (can be either USB wall adapter or power bank) goes into the micro USB female port"
 
Nov 11, 2015 at 1:08 PM Post #969 of 1,040
waiting for Schiit to do a USB port/hub, someday.
They are doing USB "decrapification" now, so, I think, a Schiit hub isn't a stretch to dream about.
 
I ordered a Fulla yesterday.
Can't wait do see how it goes.
May have to get a proper connector for iPad to Fulla, we'll see what I have in my cables inventory. 
 
Am seriously considering the Wyrd as my next acquisition.
Price point is EXCELLENT. Good reviews.
 
Their upgrades of equipment that I currently own are KILLING me!
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Nov 11, 2015 at 3:37 PM Post #970 of 1,040
Wow.
THAT was fast.
Arrived today.
Plugged into my iMac.
SIMPLY plays.
REALLY smaller than the photos seem.
That dial is about dime diameter.
 
NICELY tooled, the brushed and matte casing are SCWEET! and fingerprint-proof.
I could eat bacon and still not smudge this.
well....not much, anyway.
 
That knob is just....perfect.
 
The repro is SUPER faithful.
(Takáks String Quartet playing some tricky Hungarian string stuff.) 
No scratchystatickysticky bits.
I would say that this is every bit The Schiit as any other piece of Schiit that I own.
 
Westone 4s on there now.
Will give the Shure 535's a whirl next.
Then the RHA T20's.......
 
....might try some cans on it, just to see. The tricky bit will be to find that 1/8 adaptor........
 
This is pretty darned nice.
PricePoint is AWESOME.
 
if you got a dime...
drop it on one of these.
 
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Nov 11, 2015 at 8:32 PM Post #973 of 1,040
waiting for Schiit to do a USB port/hub, someday.
They are doing USB "decrapification" now, so, I think, a Schiit hub isn't a stretch to dream about.

Wyrd is technically an USB hub.
 
Nov 15, 2015 at 11:20 PM Post #974 of 1,040
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My impression:
 
I recently got the Fulla.  On my wife's 2014 MacBook Pro, it is recognized immediately, all usb ports.  On our old MBP from 2006, the first duo core Intel, instantly recognized, again, all usb ports.  On my 2010 MacBook Air...total crapshoot on whether it is recognized, and only on one of the two usb ports.  Mostly not recognized.  So I got a cable like I've shown, two usb (one for extra power) to mini, and I did have to add a usb extension cable to get to the port on the other side of the MBA, and now on MY computer, Fulla is recognized instantly.  Sounds noticeably better, even just streaming Hulu or an NBA game.  I can remove the connection to the extra usb port (the extra power plug) once it is recognized.  Go figure.
 
I  notice just a bit of imbalance in the analog volume control, but only at the very lowest settings, basically way too low to use.  If I turn it all the way up, with no music playing, there is a bit of "ticking" noise.  But I hardly every have to turn this up more than 1/4.  
 
I got it primarily to play some  hi-res FLAC files that I have, namely some classical guitar (Andrew York).  Again, noticeably better than the stock MBA headphone output, which I thought was pretty fair before hearing the Fulla.  There is just more depth, can hear reverb trails better, more even freq response, more full bass..etc, than the stock head phone out.  I didn't think I'd bother with it for Hulu or movies, but I do dig it out and use it as it just sounds better.
 
I haven't yet tried to power up my AKG K701...but I'm not expecting much there.  With my Klipsch IEM's, and my Senn HD280 and 380,  and ATH m50, yes, really drives them.  I haven't really spent the time to compare Fulla to any desktop dac I have, because I just wanted something really portable for my MBA, something I'd take with me traveling, and it sure has fulfilled that mission.  
 
EDIT...  not sure why my picture didn't show up.  Here is a link to it  http://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=5620   maybe that will show 
 
Nov 15, 2015 at 11:56 PM Post #975 of 1,040
 
I haven't yet tried to power up my AKG K701...but I'm not expecting much there. 

It will drive those 701s just fine, not quite as much finesse and impact as a magni or O2 but it will still handle them well.
 

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