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Got it today. Impressions will follow here and possibly mostly here http://www.head-fi.org/t/715478/headphones-for-metal-music-ultimate-solution
Kennerton ODIN, MAGISTER, VALI, Magni, Gjallarhorn, Rögnir, Thridi, Wodan, Thekk, and Thror Discussion.
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Congratulation for your new K. Odin headphones "made in Russia" (Saint Petersbourg)
I do not think you are disappointed with the speed of the bass from the Odin, and their impact; probably from the same level as the Abyss (with maybe a little less of sub-bass) (with my AudioValve amp)
Good music with this wonderful headphone.
I do not think you are disappointed with the speed of the bass from the Odin, and their impact; probably from the same level as the Abyss (with maybe a little less of sub-bass) (with my AudioValve amp)
Good music with this wonderful headphone.
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Can't wait for impressions
levap
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Congratulation for your new K. Odin headphones "made in Russia" (Saint Petersbourg)
I do not think you are disappointed with the speed of the bass from the Odin, and their impact; probably from the same level as the Abyss (with maybe a little less of sub-bass) (with my AudioValve amp)
Good music with this wonderful headphone.
Thanks!
Btw I'm also "made in Russia" (Moscow) ))
First impression on bass - it's something in between of HE-6 and Abyss.
Good choice @levap !!
I agree with you that Abyss has deeper bass.
The impression that the Odin has the same bass level is that the Abyss has a sound leakage which allows its large image and inputs less acoustic pression in the ears.
But bass Abyss are far more rumbling.
I find that Odin could have less scraping trebles ?
I agree with you that Abyss has deeper bass.
The impression that the Odin has the same bass level is that the Abyss has a sound leakage which allows its large image and inputs less acoustic pression in the ears.
But bass Abyss are far more rumbling.
I find that Odin could have less scraping trebles ?
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On first impression - yes. Highs are not so bright as Abysses have. But no way "dark" or "comfortable", I would call them "neutral". Minuses (compared to Abysses) - they're not so fun and impressive, no feeling of absolute crystal clarity that Abysses have, pluses - more natural and not annoying.
I agree. Abyss trebles are so Crystal clarity that they could become annoying with a bright amp.
Good file for test purposes: Shostakovich 10th (Moderato at min 12-15).
http://www.qobuz.com/fr-fr/album/shostakovich-symphonie-no-10-evgeny-svetlanov-ussr-state-symphony-orchestra/5060244550360
You, the Russians, you have the chance, you are entitled to a national version of the Odin (with two different colors), that we, Western Europeans don't have access. We are envious of your version!
Source: a Russian forum already named on that thread
Source: a Russian forum already named on that thread
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You, the Russians, you have the chance, you are entitled to a national version of the Odin (with two different colors), that we, Western Europeans don't have access. We are envious of your version!
Source: a Russian forum already named on that thread
What is it made of?
Here is the amplifier chosen for my K. Odin (left on the picture)
http://www.homecinema-fr.com/forum/post178696718.html#p178696718
http://www.homecinema-fr.com/forum/post178696718.html#p178696718
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How much are these in US dollars? How do they compare to other high-end headphones? Where can I find a complete review?
Too many questions at once!
The amp or the headphone ?
Kennerton Odin price is 2.250 Dollars USD (without tax)
Rudistor RP8K-VT amp is 3.420 Euros (*) (without européan tax) ((*) 3.680 Dollars USD)
Where to find comparisons and reviews ? (for headphones?)
Well by reading this thread (17 pages) or reading the French forum (148 pages) (French Kennerton thread)
(NB: here, the last review of the Kennerton Odin, today (by Yeiayel), on the French forum: http://www.homecinema-fr.com/forum/post178696878.html#p178696878)
Here the translation of the conclusion of Yeiayel's review:
CONCLUSION
To conclude, this round 2 with Odin has confirmed my initial impressions, as I really enjoyed myself these days.
The Odin is planned and produced with much love: it is beautiful, well finished, offering a beautiful musicality (balanced audio spectrum, dynamics fluidity, soundstage proportional)... personally, I had never gone as far in the correctness of the restitution. This correctness allows it to be amazing versatility, and above all to you live from beautiful emotions (effects of "foot taping" and guaranteed the "goosebumps").
We regret only a few flaws, finaly physical, that will be on the account of youth: much too short cable (2 m) ; jack terminal 3.5 mm ; inappropriate pads adjustment for small heads.
Compared to the HD800, Odin outperformed it by his versatility on all musical genres and its coherent soundstage.
Compared to the LCD - X, the match is particularly tight, playing elbows on extreme music; but my preference is also to Odin, in the end a little more realistic (better balance of the audio spectrum ; supplement of the details and dynamism) and versatile (on the classic).
Finally, I wish to express my respect to the founders of Kennerton to show there also a realistic price taking into account benefits. I wish them shoving and drill on the high end Hi-Fi market who self-caricature increasingly.
Finally I thank once again Pierre for giving me this experience, and for her keen sense of customer service.
http://www.homecinema-fr.com/forum/post178696878.html#p178696878
To conclude, this round 2 with Odin has confirmed my initial impressions, as I really enjoyed myself these days.
The Odin is planned and produced with much love: it is beautiful, well finished, offering a beautiful musicality (balanced audio spectrum, dynamics fluidity, soundstage proportional)... personally, I had never gone as far in the correctness of the restitution. This correctness allows it to be amazing versatility, and above all to you live from beautiful emotions (effects of "foot taping" and guaranteed the "goosebumps").
We regret only a few flaws, finaly physical, that will be on the account of youth: much too short cable (2 m) ; jack terminal 3.5 mm ; inappropriate pads adjustment for small heads.
Compared to the HD800, Odin outperformed it by his versatility on all musical genres and its coherent soundstage.
Compared to the LCD - X, the match is particularly tight, playing elbows on extreme music; but my preference is also to Odin, in the end a little more realistic (better balance of the audio spectrum ; supplement of the details and dynamism) and versatile (on the classic).
Finally, I wish to express my respect to the founders of Kennerton to show there also a realistic price taking into account benefits. I wish them shoving and drill on the high end Hi-Fi market who self-caricature increasingly.
Finally I thank once again Pierre for giving me this experience, and for her keen sense of customer service.
http://www.homecinema-fr.com/forum/post178696878.html#p178696878
and I forgot the short feedback (on the Kennerton Odin) by Florence75 (on TN): http://tellementnomade.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=351582#p351582
For the Italian amp http://www.rudistor.com/absolute-pure/rp8k-vt, I would do, in a few days, an comparison with the amplifier German Audiovalve Luminare; but from what I know, the sound of this hybrid amplifier is of a very high level (probably comparable to the amplifier Audeze "The King"?) We'll know soon because this American amp should happen quite quickly in France.
In comparison to other competitors headphones, the K. Odin is better or more generally appreciated than the LCD-X, LCD3F, HE-6, HD-800 (stock).
(reread the many comparatives on this thread)
The Abyss is competed by the Odin in many points (except the soundstage and extension of bass of the Abyss, better than the Odin, but the tone is better with the Odin).
For the Stax headphones (on the Luminare amp), personally I much prefer the K Odin at the Stax SR-007mk2 mod (blocked vent) http://www.homecinema-fr.com/forum/post178682476.html#p178682476 and, by a shorter head, at the Stax SR-009 (better tone and better dynamics of the K.Odin compared to the SR-009). http://www.head-fi.org/t/732814/new...es-amps-from-fischer-at-ifa/225#post_12038927
Otherwise a great comparison of headphones is preparing, on the french forum, in a month or two? (K. Odin Vs HE-6 / HE-Edition-X / HE-1000 / LCD4) with at least two testers, including the very well known and experienced "Dub" (on HCFR) http://www.homecinema-fr.com/forum/post178694533.html#p178694533
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Some thoughts on Odins vs LCD-X and Abyss
Odin vs LCD-X
LCD has more darkish and muted highs. Odin have clean and neutral mids, LCD - more cold / harsh. LCD-X has typical Audeze tasty slow and meaty bass, Odin - much clearer, faster and structured, more in Abyss-style. In terms of bass quantity - is probably about the same. The soundstage of Odin is a bit wider, probably the "meat" of LCD creates a more intimate atmosphere.
In total, for me, LCD-X excel Odin in comfort terms only.
Odin vs Abyss
In general, impression on switch from LCD-X to Odin reminiscent switch from Odin to Abyss. One more step in a similar direction. A couple more veils torn off, it becomes more clean and more spacious.
Abyss brighter on treble, which is obviously one of a key components of their super-detail and super-clean sound signature. It sounds very, very impressive, but perhaps Odin highs could be more natural. Mids of Abyss are more "electrostatic" (perhaps last but not least - on expense of cleaner treble and faster bass). Bass is faster, cleaner, more structured. Subbass electronic effects are even more impressive. Soundstage of Abyss is enormous.
In total - Abyss > Odin as much, as Odin > LCD-X. On the background of Abyss, Odin could be in some track seem more natural,,, Abyss often play so great that there is any doubt, that in fact the source material is so beautiful)) Although Odins certainly are not deliberately neutral cans also )
Odin vs LCD-X
LCD has more darkish and muted highs. Odin have clean and neutral mids, LCD - more cold / harsh. LCD-X has typical Audeze tasty slow and meaty bass, Odin - much clearer, faster and structured, more in Abyss-style. In terms of bass quantity - is probably about the same. The soundstage of Odin is a bit wider, probably the "meat" of LCD creates a more intimate atmosphere.
In total, for me, LCD-X excel Odin in comfort terms only.
Odin vs Abyss
In general, impression on switch from LCD-X to Odin reminiscent switch from Odin to Abyss. One more step in a similar direction. A couple more veils torn off, it becomes more clean and more spacious.
Abyss brighter on treble, which is obviously one of a key components of their super-detail and super-clean sound signature. It sounds very, very impressive, but perhaps Odin highs could be more natural. Mids of Abyss are more "electrostatic" (perhaps last but not least - on expense of cleaner treble and faster bass). Bass is faster, cleaner, more structured. Subbass electronic effects are even more impressive. Soundstage of Abyss is enormous.
In total - Abyss > Odin as much, as Odin > LCD-X. On the background of Abyss, Odin could be in some track seem more natural,,, Abyss often play so great that there is any doubt, that in fact the source material is so beautiful)) Although Odins certainly are not deliberately neutral cans also )
Thank you for this very precise comparison of the LCD-X, Odin and Abyss.
If I caricature the traits of personality of these three headphones we could say:
LCD-X (and probably also LCD3F): listening is more introverted, intimate, and also more dense (thick) in the mids (NB: FR more descending).
Odin: listening is more natural and neutral, and also more clear and faster (compared with the LCDX) (NB: FR more flat)
Abyss: listening is more spectacular (brighter with more bass), extrovert, but also more ethereal and distant in the mids (NB: FR in V).
If I caricature the traits of personality of these three headphones we could say:
LCD-X (and probably also LCD3F): listening is more introverted, intimate, and also more dense (thick) in the mids (NB: FR more descending).
Odin: listening is more natural and neutral, and also more clear and faster (compared with the LCDX) (NB: FR more flat)
Abyss: listening is more spectacular (brighter with more bass), extrovert, but also more ethereal and distant in the mids (NB: FR in V).
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