Schiit Ragnarok Amplifier
Nov 8, 2015 at 11:37 AM Post #1,021 of 2,041
Thought I'd drop a warning for anyone thinking about this combination. I've been auditioning a Mini Maggie setup from a friend with my Ragnarok and had a problem with another part of the amp which led me to ask Jason for advice. He says the Mini Maggie setup could be dangerous due to how it is wired, and how circlotron works, and said it may be pushing the amp into protection. I've stopped using them together and the problem fixed itself.

So, don't use Ragnarok and the Mini Maggie setup together.


To be clear, I don't have any experience with the Mini Maggies, but any system that has a single speaker with connections to other speakers (like the Mini Maggies bass panel) is immediately suspect of having common grounds--which will trip the protection. 
 
In addition, the way Magnepan adds bass panels to their full-range speakers also means the system is now a 2 ohm (or less) load. Again, not recommended for Ragnarok, as it will absolutely trip the protection. Maggies, even without the bass panel will also typically trip Ragnarok's protection near the top of the volume knob.
 
Aaaanndd...I just have to say this: we have 1.7s at the office. I've used them on Ragnarok. I've also used them on many more powerful amps. And, despite Ragnarok being the Audiophiliac's Product of the Year, and his elation with Ragnarok and the Magneplanar 0.7s, I *personally* would use only a seriously powerful amp with the Maggies (like the 300W PS Audio or 500W Emotiva we have.) But that's because I want excellent headroom and dynamics in a large room.
 
Soo....if you're using Maggies with Ragnarok at low to moderate levels, sure, it's a good match, but if you want to crank it, and/or have a large room, it's not the amp I'd go to first (which is the same for any 60W/8 ohm amp on the planet.)
 
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Dec 28, 2015 at 12:55 PM Post #1,022 of 2,041
i have the yiggy/rag combo and love it...i am using a pair of HEK's and my AK120 Titan...the only complaint i have is one i know I can do nothing about and that is the noise the Rag makes when turning on and switching the volume and most annoyingly when switching tracks on my AK 120...otherwise the combo is magical
 
Jan 20, 2016 at 5:21 PM Post #1,023 of 2,041
  i have the yiggy/rag combo and love it...i am using a pair of HEK's and my AK120 Titan...the only complaint i have is one i know I can do nothing about and that is the noise the Rag makes when turning on and switching the volume and most annoyingly when switching tracks on my AK 120...otherwise the combo is magical


Side track, but now that I'm waiting the arrival of the yggy, the rag/hugo combo sounds magical to me already :p 
 
Jan 30, 2016 at 10:09 AM Post #1,024 of 2,041
The MJ2 is a very nice, somewhat detailed, natural sounding amp. But the Ragnarock just out performances it, especially using a XLR headphone cable. The Rag has so much power and control, the overall sound it tube like, the bass has such impact, yet it is textured and controlled, never ever mudding up the mids. The mids are lush yet ever textured and revealing, yet being ever musical. Likewise the highs are spot on perfect and revealing to the artist. The overall sound is extremely detailed and natural sounding yet always so musical.
The MJ2 is nice but its not as revealing and transparent as the Rag, nor is it as musical sounding. I had been using the GMB and MJ2 almost exclusively for over three week and enjoyed the sound. The one day I went back to the Yggy/ Rag and was just awe struck at how much better it sounded. The synergy of the Yggy/ Rag. Is like audio herein and I just want to listen to the music and ignore all else. Who cares if the phone is ringing, who cares the cat once out of the room, or if the smoke alarm is chirping, just listen to the music, till you become a dancing fool.
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What a great comparison review!! Sold me on the Rag/Yiggy combo.
 
Jan 30, 2016 at 10:25 AM Post #1,025 of 2,041
 
To be clear, I don't have any experience with the Mini Maggies, but any system that has a single speaker with connections to other speakers (like the Mini Maggies bass panel) is immediately suspect of having common grounds--which will trip the protection. 
 
In addition, the way Magnepan adds bass panels to their full-range speakers also means the system is now a 2 ohm (or less) load. Again, not recommended for Ragnarok, as it will absolutely trip the protection. Maggies, even without the bass panel will also typically trip Ragnarok's protection near the top of the volume knob.
 
Aaaanndd...I just have to say this: we have 1.7s at the office. I've used them on Ragnarok. I've also used them on many more powerful amps. And, despite Ragnarok being the Audiophiliac's Product of the Year, and his elation with Ragnarok and the Magneplanar 0.7s, I *personally* would use only a seriously powerful amp with the Maggies (like the 300W PS Audio or 500W Emotiva we have.) But that's because I want excellent headroom and dynamics in a large room.
 
Soo....if you're using Maggies with Ragnarok at low to moderate levels, sure, it's a good match, but if you want to crank it, and/or have a large room, it's not the amp I'd go to first (which is the same for any 60W/8 ohm amp on the planet.)


Really glad I saw this. I currently run my Mini Maggie's on an older PS Audio amp (100W) but I feel like there's something missing, and it sounds a little bass light even with the bass panel. I've heard it sound better at the local dealership (and at a show), but since I don't listen to it too loud (it's in a nearfield setup at my desk) I wasn't sure if it was power related or just synergy in general. I will have to try it out with a beefier amp.
 
Mar 25, 2016 at 11:58 AM Post #1,027 of 2,041
Can anyone comment on how hot Ragnarok gets when driving speakers only?

Sounds like Rag runs quite hot when used as a headphone amp running in Class A ... does it run noticeably cooler when driving speakers only, in Class AB?
 
I would use Rag to drive fairly efficient speakers ~96dB, 8 ohm.
 
Comments based on personal experience would be much appreciated!
 
Mar 26, 2016 at 5:05 AM Post #1,029 of 2,041
[COLOR=333333]Can anyone comment on how hot Ragnarok gets when driving speakers only?[/COLOR][COLOR=333333]
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[/COLOR][COLOR=333333]Sounds like Rag runs quite hot when used as a headphone amp running in Class A ... does it run noticeably cooler when driving speakers only, in Class AB?[/COLOR]

[COLOR=333333]I would use Rag to drive fairly efficient speakers ~96dB, 8 ohm.[/COLOR]

[COLOR=333333]Comments based on personal experience would be much appreciated![/COLOR]
I doubt you'd notice much if any difference unless you used a IR gun and monitor it.

And if anything (depending upon how loud you run the speakers) it may actually run a tad bit cooler.

But were talking maybe 10 degrees (either way) at the very most.

This assumes that the Rok has good ventilation (ie stock or better space around the amp).

JJ
 
Mar 28, 2016 at 11:26 PM Post #1,030 of 2,041
I finally decided to upgrade and ordered the Ragnarok. I realize it is a bit of a jump from the Vali. But I was also looking at powering my living room speakers as well. I could have stepped up but the Ragnarok is an end amp. Right?

Plus, I just moved into a loft apartment and the first time I connected my home theater, I got a knock on the door. Now I realize that it was late and I was testing the sub a little, but I realize that I cannot enjoy that so I go in a different direction.

So I plan to listen to the Ragnarok in the living room to headphones when jamming or through my home speakers. Apogee Stages sans sub. :mad:

I was thinking about getting an Oppo 105D as a source for video and music to my Nas drive and for most tv viewing. I cut the tv cord about a year ago. Is anyone else using this setup? It does have balanced out.
 
Mar 29, 2016 at 7:05 AM Post #1,031 of 2,041
I finally decided to upgrade and ordered the Ragnarok. I realize it is a bit of a jump from the Vali. But I was also looking at powering my living room speakers as well. I could have stepped up but the Ragnarok is an end amp. Right?

Plus, I just moved into a loft apartment and the first time I connected my home theater, I got a knock on the door. Now I realize that it was late and I was testing the sub a little, but I realize that I cannot enjoy that so I go in a different direction.

So I plan to listen to the Ragnarok in the living room to headphones when jamming or through my home speakers. Apogee Stages sans sub.
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I was thinking about getting an Oppo 105D as a source for video and music to my Nas drive and for most tv viewing. I cut the tv cord about a year ago. Is anyone else using this setup? It does have balanced out.


What are you using for a DAC? If you have a DAC like Yggy or other, all you need is a CD/DVD player. If you need both, the Oppo 103 is all you need. Wire line out from Oppo optical/Toslink or coax to DAC then SE or balanced to Ragg. My Ragg is supposed to arrive today. Got Yggy last week.
 
Mar 29, 2016 at 1:39 PM Post #1,032 of 2,041
I finally decided to upgrade and ordered the Ragnarok. I realize it is a bit of a jump from the Vali. But I was also looking at powering my living room speakers as well. I could have stepped up but the Ragnarok is an end amp. Right?

Plus, I just moved into a loft apartment and the first time I connected my home theater, I got a knock on the door. Now I realize that it was late and I was testing the sub a little, but I realize that I cannot enjoy that so I go in a different direction.

So I plan to listen to the Ragnarok in the living room to headphones when jamming or through my home speakers. Apogee Stages sans sub.
mad.gif


I was thinking about getting an Oppo 105D as a source for video and music to my Nas drive and for most tv viewing. I cut the tv cord about a year ago. Is anyone else using this setup? It does have balanced out.

I switch between Oppo BDP-105 and Yggdrasil, both feeding a Ragnarok via balanced, output to stereo speakers.
When switching to the Oppo, I do not go shrieking off into the corner. I think it sounds quite nice as a standalone source.
 
Mar 29, 2016 at 3:51 PM Post #1,033 of 2,041
Ragnarok has arrived 


A little cable porn. Wywires balanced interconnects and Red headphone cable on my Ether Cs and Stereovox coax with several flavors of power cords
 
Mar 29, 2016 at 4:22 PM Post #1,034 of 2,041
Ragnarok has arrived 





A little cable porn. Wywires balanced interconnects and Red headphone cable on my Ether Cs and Stereovox coax with several flavors of power cords

Nice pictures, I hope your mighty Ragnarock puts a big old smile on your face, as you jam out.
 
Mar 30, 2016 at 5:50 PM Post #1,035 of 2,041
Can any of you Ragnarok owners tell me how long to leave it on for breakin period???????
 

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