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I can't comment on the other sonic qualities of the SD, as I have not heard it, but one thing I can tell you for sure, after owning CD3000's for years, the treble IS NOT DISTORTED at all, in the stick one, so IMO nothing to improve there, if you heard it distorted the distortion is not coming for the headphone, for sure, sorry but if you heard this distortion, IMO this is not an improvement, this simply is not accurate, sorry Tom, but on this one you are being a little enthusiastic to say the less IMO....more cleaner? Maybe, better soundstage, Maybe, tighter bass? Maybe all those are improvement over the perfectly enjoyable sound of the CD3000.....but distortion? NO...the stock definitely has no distortion at all....sorry but nothing to improve there....

Sov, I don't think the stock CD3000's treble is distorted at all. However, even the Canare cable swap I did made the treble smoother, more natural/effortless, and sibilance went from very little to basically none (on my system).

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This could be possible, cleaner, smoother, more defined, whatever....etc...but I do not accept the distortion term for the stock CD3000 sorry....Even I do not consdier that one given "high end" headphione have dsitortion in any range of the audible spectrum, this is simply ridiculous, if this is true, simply this is not even a good headphone, let alone "high end"....

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By cleaner, I mean less distorted. It is cleaner, smoother, better. My point is this is not a subjective thing, Like fewtch was saying, but a real improvment across the frequency range. The cable does not make the CD3000 into something different, it simply improves what is already there.
I could see people thinking it is subjective if the comparison was two different phones. it's not. Sov until you hear the two CD3000 side by side you will not realize how much nicer the treble can be. Also, if what we are hearing is the other gear it would come through with or without the cable mod. I can't believe you can be so defensive and closed minded that you think the CD3000 can not get better with higher quality parts added on them. Do you really think that every person out there who has had issues with the treble of the CD3000 has gear that is screwing up right around the same frequency range? Most of the people posting on this thread own and like there CD3000 just as much as you. Some so much they want even more of what they like already. Thats what mods are about to me. Improving the sonic presintation of whats already there without messing with the sonic signature of that product. Why would anyone waste there time modifying something they don't like? If thats the case switch brands.

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I'm not closed minded at all, please I will do the mod maybe not now (time issues), but I will do it, I even have the cable here, not the SD (too expensive), but another, if I were closed minded I would refuse to do it.
What I do refuse to call what I was hearing now a "distorted treble" as you call it, simply it is not true, I'm not doubting that it could be better, and will be better in mine also, just that now it is not distorted, call it in another way, and I will accept the term, but distortion is a well known term and has it acception, and it is not what we hear in the stock CD3000....
Another remark, I do not care what other people said about the CD3000, you have heard it, do you feel it that way, I do not. We all have our personal opinions, but I have never heard that the CD3000 has a distorted treble from anybody using a decent setup, if this were the case I had never gotten it, remember that when I got it, I had never heard one before, I was just following recommendations....

Sov, I think WHATEVER you call it, the stock cd3000 has treble issues. The treble just sounds wrong; atleast to me. IMO the treble is to thin and smeared in general and does not sound natural. I have heard them again twice recently at meets with excellent, fully functioning gear and I hear the same thing as when I owned them. I have heard 5 different cd3000's(two I owned) on atleast 9 different amps paired with excellent sources like the sacdmods 555es, sony x3000es, cary 306/200 etc., and it doesnt matter; the treble problem I hear remains.

My point is simply I cant stand the cd3000's as is. I am interested in the mods because I like everything but the treble of the cd3000, even the looser bass. If the treble could be corrected I would have another pair. Since there was nothing you could do to the cd3000 before I got another headphone. Now that there is a potential solution I would like to hear other peoples impressions who have heard or will hear the cable mod. Saying the cd3000's are fine stock is ok for you, and many others, but there are also many of us who find the cd3000 to be shrill and fatiguing. I look at this thread with the hope the cd3000 can be changed to my liking. There are many positives to the headphone for me if I could handle the treble. Having heard the drastic difference the upgrade cables make on my senns in my system I think its possible. I for one dont care if you mod the phone or not. If you like it the way it is why bother? But why all the defensiveness and arguing because some of us do hear flaws with the cd3000? ITS ONLY A HEADPHONE.

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Distort: to pervert or misrepresent. to twist awry or out of shape. This is the definition of distort and this is what I was meaning when I said the cable removes some of the distortion. The Cd3000 does something to the treble that is not normal. They distort it. Thats called distortion. I didn't mean that the treble is a bunch of static sound on the stock phone. It sounds like you thought thats what I was saying. Anyway I'm out of this thread. You guys have me sounding like I don't like the CD3000, and I do. I hope everyones mods turn out as good as purks did.

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Tom I don't know if you know that this is not what distortion mean in audio. I will not go deeper in that, please go and try to find and read some audio definitions about what distortion is in audio (with the harmonics, due to saturation, etc ...) and this is not what happen there.........but if you mean that, or that you feel as something that could be improved, or any other meaning of what you hear, well this is OK with me, but the term "distortion" when applied to audio does not mean simply what you stated above, maybe in painting, sculpture, and daily life will be that meaning and I agree, but in audio, it has and specific meaning, IIRC harmonics, saturation, etc....related or something like that.

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Earl AFAIK, this thread and this discussion, was initiated, and makes sense just for the CD3000 lovers, this mod will improve whatever we already like in the CD3000, to make it even more enjoyable for us. IIRC you are not among them, all the opposite, or am I wrong??? And I do not think that what you hear wrong on the CD3000, that IMO is a huge exageration (of course we all hear differently) will be fixed by any cable in the world. There is no way a CD3000 will sound anything similar to the HD6XX, if this would be the case I would never got them, this is the way they sound, you could improve them, but never change them that much unless with an EQ, and a cable is not the case.
So please if you are looking for a miracle, this is not the right place IMO, if you find the treble in the CD3000 as you stated above, why not trying any other headphone with a more laid back and more dull presentation? The cable for sure will not change that much, a better cable will make the treble even more crisp, detailed, and maybe smoother and coherent, but more present, the cable will not mask it, and IMO the change will never be that big....but if you like, try it for yourself, to convince you, and let us know....a cable will make a subtle change, as stated by tom and purk, but it will not change the sonic signature of the can, and if this is the case, then I'm not interested at all.....

Anyway I will stop speculating, and I suggest you to do the same, and as soon as we try it, we will know if the changes are what you want or what I believe, but IMO, it will not be that way....BUT I WILL TRY IT, OK?

Ideally, a cables function is to deliver the most precise, unaltered signal possible. When this is done properly, the end product, in this case the drivers, convey what has travelled through the cable. If it's more precise and unaltered, so is the sound, simple as that. So given that, it only makes sense to give a great driver what it deserves, a great signal...

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This is perfectly understandable, an I like that spirit, I'm curious myself, but my point is: is the stock that bad that will introduce all those anomalies and distortion, etc...? If this is the case, Sony for sure mess it up.

IMO who do not like the stock, will never like the CD3000 regardless of the cable used, or am I wrong, Larry? Is the change that big? Larry, or Purk or Tom, could you define what happen in fact, as we have not hear it, I do not think that a person will like or not the CD3000 just becasue of these differences, do you really believe that this is the case???........Sorry, and I hate to be ironic, but if you agree, congratulations, you have found
the magic formula, to make everybody love the CD3000, and as an active member of the CD3KLF, I will be the first in being more than happy to welcome this mod, it is like a new weapon to keep on fighting....(FYI I am happy anyway, irony appart OK?..what is best for my beloved CD3000, always makes me happy, OK? LOL)

Of course I'm not doubting that any good cable will be better thna the stock, but com'on there is a minimum of performance required for a cable to be used, I do not think that Sony will use one, knowing that it is even below this minimum...in a $699.99 MSRP headphone...

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And there you have it... it's entirely subjective. Cable improvements, in my opinion are entirely subjective as well. Even if you feel it's a real improvement, that's to your ears -- in what way is that objective?

Even if most people feel a certain cable improves the sound, that only means the majority agree on their subjective impressions. At what point does it become objective... how many people have to agree in order to make it objective fact... 51%?

This is really a philosophical matter, and I don't expect everyone to agree with the way I see it... but that's how I see it.

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We had agreed just in a few times, but this is one of them, fewtch, people state all the changes as if they will apply the same way for everybody, this is a really closed minded perception of the human nature, we are all different, so we all hear, see, eat, live, different....there is no general rules for appreciation in art...what is good or pretty for you, maybe is not for me....
Well in the case of the cables, the only sure thing, is that there is a change, for sure, this is the only fact I see here, now if we will like it or not, let's see, honestly I prefer to try it for myself...

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I can only speak for myself on this one. I like the CD3000 alot stock....I like it alot more with the cable upgrade. I think if someone already dislikes the CD3000 they may dislike it less with the cable upgrade. I dont see them tripping over them selves to buy one though. Someone like sacd lover, that liked everything about the phones, but the treble bothered him might have a new opinion on them with the cable upgrade. Pretty vague I know.

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Sov, in the future, so you know what I think distorted is. Just read any of fewtch's posts.