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Jun 24, 2015 at 5:56 PM Post #5,133 of 6,729
stacker45 said:
 
whirlwind said:
  I am 100% on board with those that say Grado will not announce any changes that they make .
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In my opinion, any change that is thought to be significant enough to be made, is also significant enough, for the buyer to know about...if that makes any sense.
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I agree, but I also believe that any changes will not be made public by Grado....I have never known there to be a revision that was made public by Grado....unless I am missing something.
 
I mean, a public revision can be bad for business, imho.
 
Jun 24, 2015 at 6:32 PM Post #5,135 of 6,729
As far as these silent revisions go, I look at the different headband colors and how they go un-announced.  I understand this has nothing to do with the sound, but it is a design change that has gone un-announced. So to make a change to the sound at the same time doesn't surprise me, and having bought the RS1e at the beginning and returning it makes me interested and hopeful to try it again.
 
Jun 24, 2015 at 7:42 PM Post #5,136 of 6,729
whirlwind said:
  I agree, but I also believe that any changes will not be made public by Grado....I have never known there to be a revision that was made public by Grado....unless I am missing something.
 
I mean, a public revision can be bad for business, imho.
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My definition of a revision would be pushing back a driver further in the earcup, changing the color of the headband. By the way, I see nothing wrong with Grado using black or tan H.Bs, as long as we have a way of knowing what's up.
 
All it takes is to write the words black and tan on the boxes, and an X next, (yes, i know it sounds funny!), to the apropriate color, and voila!, no more surprises. Speaker, and furniture companys have been using this method for years. 
 
Finally, I think that if they change a driver's size, or the material, and/or, the shape of the earcups, the headphones then become a new model.
 
Jun 24, 2015 at 10:05 PM Post #5,137 of 6,729
Honestly I think for all the perfection in sound, Grado is really careless in final finishes. All the Prestiges lose their lettering in the course of a year, and the paint on the grills will wear out after about 2 or 3 years. Not that I would mind it, and I still handle my Grados with a lot of love, but after all being hand-made has its own problems. 
 
Jun 24, 2015 at 10:45 PM Post #5,138 of 6,729
mackcd said:
I still have to put in at least 50 more hours before I can make any impressions.
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Keep us posted.
 
williamleonhart said:
  All the Prestiges lose their lettering in the course of a year, and the paint on the grills will wear out after about 2 or 3 years. Not that I would mind it, and I still handle my Grados with a lot of love.
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I also handle my Grados with a lot of love and respect.
I have my 325is's probably 3+yrs and the lettering is in perfect condition as well as the grills on all of my Grados…I guess I'm lucky! 
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Jun 25, 2015 at 4:06 AM Post #5,140 of 6,729
williamleonhart said:
  Honestly I think for all the perfection in sound, Grado is really careless in final finishes. All the Prestiges lose their lettering in the course of a year, and the paint on the grills will wear out after about 2 or 3 years. Not that I would mind it, and I still handle my Grados with a lot of love, but after all being hand-made has its own problems. 
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I also handle my Grados with a lot of love and respect.
I have my 325is's probably 3+yrs and the lettering is in perfect condition as well as the grills on all of my Grados…I guess I'm lucky! 
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I don't think I've had any problems with this either...
 
Jun 25, 2015 at 4:20 AM Post #5,141 of 6,729
rovopio said:
 
A vastly different seating of the driver (which is clearly evidenced in photos at this point) is enough to radically change the sound of the headphone, and that certainly qualifies it as a "newer model." Hell, we all know how much the sound of a Grado shifts when you slap the wrong pads on it. 
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I sort of ****ted on the grado sr60e when I had them for a very short while, before moving to a sr80e. Saying it sounded way too warm, thick, and lack definition. This came from a previous sr60 owner.
I'm somewhat sure that both the 60e and 80e was a Grado E-series 2nd production batch. The sr60e driver protrudes wayy to the front, in comparison to the sr80e I owned at the time. I don't have it now but I'm 100% sure that that particular sr60e driver protrudes even more than my current 325e.
 
I just checked, my current 325e has 1.0 cm distance between the Alu cups to the end of the driver. Based on that I think the sr60e was at least 0.5~0.8 cm more protrudes than the 325e.
 
I don't know about sounds and fixes, but I can pitch in my experience that a Grado that was in my posession also had quite extreme protruded driver. I can see Mercuttio's logic in this, as I'm sure that a normal sr60e today won't have that protruded driver anymore (No bases on this).
In addition to bad sound, the driver protrudes so much it pushed against my ear, even with the S cushion. Compared this with the 325e and 80e that I got that was directly grado-like in fitting.
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I'm a bit confused. Are you saying you had an sr60e that had a driver sticking out like this?

 
Jun 25, 2015 at 4:26 AM Post #5,142 of 6,729
whirlwind said:
  I was not talking about the RS1e.....I was just saying that I can understand where some people think the RS1i in general could be over priced....I loved my RS1i.....I just don't think that i would personally pay $700 for it......but I am not saying it is not worth that....everybody views it different.
 
I tend to buy most of my stuff used....get a way better bang for the buck....so that is the reason that I personally would not pay $700 new....because i could get a flagship used for not much more.
 
Everybody views it differently and everybody works with a different budget.
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Often overlooked truth; very well said.
 
Jun 25, 2015 at 4:42 AM Post #5,143 of 6,729
mackcd said:
I will. Im thinking about picking up a ps500e or sr325 to put it ip against... but I cant quite decide... maybe the rs2e too...damn.
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PS500e's are amazingly dynamic and detailed.  Solid bass, but not overwhelming as some reviews might lead you to believe.
Just great headphones.
 
sr325 - top of their class, but the 500e's of course are the next class up
 
,,,haven't heard the RS2e's, but I didn't like the RS2i's.  Too light in the bass and just
sounded unbalanced.  Exchanged them for the RS1i's, which I still have.
Fortunately. :p
 
Jun 25, 2015 at 5:13 AM Post #5,145 of 6,729
rovopio said:
 
wormsdriver said:
   
I'm a bit confused. Are you saying you had an sr60e that had a driver sticking out like this?
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Yes, but worse. probably 0.3-0.4 cm sticking out more than your grado's picture.
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 I've never even read about anybody having these problems with the lower sr series since their drivers stayed the same size as previous generations?
I wish you still had them to check them out!
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