[getclikinagas]

  Hi, I've been drawn into the audiophile community a year ago, unknowingly after I was looking for a pair of IEMs and Google brought me into this forum. *curses* lol. I'm still trying to relate some of the sound terms to actual experience.
 
How do you differentiate between mid-range and treble when you're listening? Are female vocals that sing in high-pitches considered in the treble range?
 
How does a headphone amp work if it is plugged into a soundcard output in which the soundcard has existing built-in amp? Wouldn't it result in a "double-amplification" in which noises would also be amplified significantly?

Welcome to Head-fi Ichigo-kun!

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Take a look at this interactive chart. http://www.independentrecording.net/irn/resources/freqchart/main_display.htm
Move your cursor over the chart and pay attention to the description in the top right box labelled "Spectrum data"
Female vocals are illustrated as a separate range.
 

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DAPs and souncards typically have a separate DAC (digital-to-analog converter) and AMP (amplifier) section (among other components). The DAC output is fed to the amp and the resultant signal is what we get out of the headphone out port. Some DAPs and soundcards will have a separate port called "line out", where-in volume and power circuits are bypassed. Here, since the signal is diverted earlier in the chain it is considered purer. Double amping will result in the signal being passed twice through similar circuits which is sub-optimal. In the absence of a line out port the headphone port is used, and results in double amping which may adversely affect the quality. Some devices like the ColorFly C3, due to the way it is implemented, delivers a very clean headphone-out. In such cases the effects of double amping are less noticed.
 
This is of course, a very general explanation. Hopefully it will help you narrow your doubts.

 

[Eisener Bart]

I am Sergio from Ukraine.

 

[kurosaki123]

  Welcome to Head-fi Ichigo-kun!

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Take a look at this interactive chart. http://www.independentrecording.net/irn/resources/freqchart/main_display.htm
Move your cursor over the chart and pay attention to the description in the top right box labelled "Spectrum data"
Female vocals are illustrated as a separate range.
 

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DAPs and souncards typically have a separate DAC (digital-to-analog converter) and AMP (amplifier) section (among other components). The DAC output is fed to the amp and the resultant signal is what we get out of the headphone out port. Some DAPs and soundcards will have a separate port called "line out", where-in volume and power circuits are bypassed. Here, since the signal is diverted earlier in the chain it is considered purer. Double amping will result in the signal being passed twice through similar circuits which is sub-optimal. In the absence of a line out port the headphone port is used, and results in double amping which may adversely affect the quality. Some devices like the ColorFly C3, due to the way it is implemented, delivers a very clean headphone-out. In such cases the effects of double amping are less noticed.
 
This is of course, a very general explanation. Hopefully it will help you narrow your doubts.

Thanks getclikinagas! I see that there's a difference between line-out vs headphone-out; always thought that there's only the line-out port. Going to read up more!

 

[xAk MoRRoWiNdx]

Hi! Im new to Head-Fi also. I came across this thread but i still dont know how to make a post on this website....

 

[Jon420]

Hi! Im new to Head-Fi also. I came across this thread but i still dont know how to make a post on this website....

IfIf you are visiting from a mobile device, go to the very bottom of the page and select desktop view. As far as I can tell, you can only create threads from the desktop site.. Oh, and welcome.. I've found this a great community so far.

 

[jackstack10]

I'm Jack, love music, want to improve listening experience. Looking for a sound card and new headphones. Had beyerdynamic 770 dt pro and ad 900x rec'd, looking for others too. Gamer and listen to a lot of music, joined yesterday.

 

[dluu]

I'm not new but I happened to find this forum two years ago. Started doing a lot of research and bought some headphones. But quickly after, my life changed due to work and I stopped listening to music and my headphones picked up dust. Two years later, I'm back!
 
Hello

 

[whiterobe]

I have enjoyed music all my life, I assume I was not frightened by it as a fetus. My favourite song was Eric Clapton Layla when I was four years old and my dad would ask me what record I wanted played when I went to bed. He had really nice late 70s era AR speakers that were bigger than me.
 
Since I have moved around the planet I don't own nice speakers. I went down the frustrating road of using earbuds that cost too much for their 2 month lifespan.
I have some money now I figure I should listen to music with good hardware. Since I want to listen to my music by myself a massive system makes little sense and I may move again soon.
 
The biggest problem with "beginners" is that they often don't even try their headphones on before buying them. How stupid are these people? I must be really stupid since I did just that and ordered myself a pair of Kef M500s. I thought I knew what music was supposed to sound like before getting these.
 
Nice to meet you.

 

[Kitteh5]

Hello. I am Kitteh5. I'm an audiophile with like no experience. I've owned a few pairs of headphones/in-ears worth mentioning. I don't know what else to say. 
 
I've tried/own(ed)
Monoprice 8323 (daily drivers)
Koss KPH7 (not bad for $7)
JVC HA-M55X (basshead headphones that failed me)
Apple earbuds that made my ears bleed mentally
Not much else. 
 
Here's my BeamNG forum account for more. 
http://www.beamng.com/members/1167-Kitteh5

 

[megamanhelment]

Hi everyone!
 
WOW it is so cool to be on head-fi finally!  Got my start on /r/headphones in July, but I got to get the best and I finally saw David's Flagship Showdown UBER thread.  Now I HAVE to come here!
 
 
Well I have always had a hard time connecting to music.  Great headphones help. 
 
I got caught in a deep Sennheiser Schiit hole.  HD700 and Uber Bifrost with a vali amp, though i'm not sure which amp I'll settle on. 
 
anywa happy to be here!!!

 

[Daditude]

Hello,
 
I'm Dustin from Texas (United States). I'm a happily married man with a daughter that just turned ten months old, a teacher, and a lover of music. I've been into vinyl for about a year and am currently wanting to get into audiophile headphones and DAPs. I feel this forum will be a great place to hang out when I can.

 

[whiterobe]

Are we allowed to have discussions in this thread? Newbie-to-newbie conference? I have been on forums lately that frown upon unstructured happy-go-lucky fun times.

 

[Blastomussa]

Are we allowed to have discussions in this thread? Newbie-to-newbie conference? I have been on forums lately that frown upon unstructured happy-go-lucky fun times.

You can always push the boundaries now and apologize later.

 

[moedawg140]

You can always push the boundaries now and apologize later.

Not if your banned. :bigsmile_face:

Like most places in the world, it's advised to use your best judgement when posting. How I look at it as this: would your family/guardian cringe when reading what you wrote? If no, then it's probably okay to post. If there is a high possibility they will cringe, you need to think, and then think again, before sending the post(s), because it may just come right back to you, and possibly not in the most elegant way as well.

 

[dr cornelius]

Hello everyone - I sort of stumbled back onto the headphone world recently  I’m an editor and started freelancing this year - I found out quickly that many of the systems that I have to edit on, require monitoring with headphones, which I never did before.  I’ve also been a drummer all of my life, so I’ve been in and out of many recording studios over the years - the only time I every used ‘phones was for tracking - never for mixing.  So... working with headphones was pretty foreign to me, but over time, I’ve become really used to it.  Actually many of the edit suites have pretty small monitors, so with headphones it’s nice to finally hear some lo-end, before we get to the mix!  On a recent job, I really missed my headphones - the room acoustics and studio monitors were pretty terrible...
 
Anyway, I’d like to start checking out some nice headphone gear.  For work I just use a pair of Sony MDR-7506’s and a Leckerton Audio UHA-6S MKII.  It’s a solid little combo that can plug and play in any system I run into.  I hadn’t heard a pair of 7506’s in years, but when I put them on, I immediately remembered the sound - but it will be fun to check out some other makes and models...