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post #616 of 4001
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Originally Posted by pokenguyen View Post
 

It's software/firmware based, and they're working on it. They're going to open new campaign with Geek Stream with same sq as Geek Out, but it's battery powered (compete with Fiio E18, C5D).

 

Btw, I'm having good fit with the included S double-flange, the insertion is deep and comfortable. Is this the recommended Senheiser tips?

 

Yes these are senn double flanges. Perfect for me as well...

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Yes I believe so. LHL has stated that its the way the volume configuration was designed. There is expected to be a driver update to help rectify the issue, though I'm not exactly too sure how they'll change it.

Well so far I have tried the B3 extensively in these ways:

Computer --> Foobar2000 --> FLAC files --> Fiio E07K (DAC+Amp section) --> Havi B3
iPhone 5 --> MP3 320 --> Fiio E07K (Amp section only) --> Havi B3
iPhone 5 --> MP3 320  --> Havi B3
Computer --> Foobar2000 --> FLAC files --> Audinst HUD-MX1 --> Havi B3
Computer --> Foobar2000 --> FLAC files --> Geek Out 450 --> Havi B3

 

The E07K has plenty of juice to power the B3 without any problem even on the lowest gain setting. They sound good, but for one weakness. As with most Fiio products, soundstage width always seems to be compromised, and this robs the B3 of one of its strongest suits IMO. I actually found playing straight from my iPhone 5 to be more enjoyable for instrumental tracks as a result.

When I sold my E07K and purchased the Audinst HUD-MX1, the soundstage issue was taken away. The Audinst is also less warm and slightly more laid back compared to the Fiio E07K, which can be a good and bad thing, a subjective matter. In the case of the B3, I find that it excels more for acoustic/instrumental/classical music due to its naturalness and neutralness rather than alternative rock/EDM, and the Audinst seems to complement this much more.

But now I have the Geek Out 450. Let's just say I wouldn't be touching my Audinst at all if my GO wasn't a defective unit. From E07K to the Audinst, you could say the improvements were there but still marginal. I don't know how to exactly explain how the GO sounds, but everything just seems much more... dynamic? (not sure what word to use!). I can forsee that with some sources/amps, there are those who will not like the B3 because it does not have an apparent defining quality, or in other words: WOW factor. It does not have jaw dropping bass, the most extended treble, nor the most in your face vocals. The GO doesn't change that, but it just gives the B3 the OOMPH which gives it the 'life' that some people might fault the B3 for lacking. To be fair though, the GO just sounds good with EVERY SINGLE FREAKING THING, so the improvement is not just for the B3. But what I can say is that the B3, together with my Takstar Pro, benefits the most from GO of all my other IEMs/headphones (the others namely being Q701, HE-400, UE TF10)

Anyway, I have just one more thing to add about the B3. Recently, I got my UE TF10 with a Chris_Himself SPC cable. There are many things which I prefer the TF10 over my B3: the treble is more crisp and clear, EXACTLY to my taste, the bass is more impactful in a good way, and the clarity and soundstage very matchable as well. Subjectively, I guess I do prefer the TF10's slightly more than the B3.


At the end of the day though, I still easily find time for the B3. The combination of 3D soundstage, instrument timbre and precise imaging is just too appealing. I use my TF10s at work where I need an injection of 'thrill', and when I get home I settle back with my B3s where I just want to soak in the realism of music.

A $60 setup is able to complement a formidable $300 setup, rather than get overwhelmed. I think that says how much I love them :D
 

post #618 of 4001
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Originally Posted by Baycode View Post
 

36.70 USD (NX1) + 59 USD (B3 Pro1) = 95.7 USD    ....mmm under 100 USD for a complete, portable package ;)

 

...not bad :evil:

 

Topping NX1

http://www.dx.com/p/topping-nx1-headphone-amplifier-for-mp3-mp4-cellphone-tablet-pc-black-294594#.U47-eijyAtU

 

B3 Pro1

http://penonaudio.com/HAVI-B3-PRO

I got curious and checked the Topping NX1 - looks put together with quite decent parts. I remember seeing it mentioned over a year ago - at one hell of a lot different price. Further "improved" here - just a single example, there are more: 

http://www.ebay.de/itm/Topping-NX1-Headphone-Amplifier-Kopfhorerverstarker-Verstarker-ca-0-Distortion-/151246571742?pt=DE_Elektronik_Computer_TV_Video_Elektronik_Verst%C3%A4rker&hash=item2336ff88de

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I got curious and checked the Topping NX1 - looks put together with quite decent parts. I remember seeing it mentioned over a year ago - at one hell of a lot different price. Further "improved" here - just a single example, there are more: 

http://www.ebay.de/itm/Topping-NX1-Headphone-Amplifier-Kopfhorerverstarker-Verstarker-ca-0-Distortion-/151246571742?pt=DE_Elektronik_Computer_TV_Video_Elektronik_Verst%C3%A4rker&hash=item2336ff88de



That price is insane, they're kidding themselves. 135 Euros works out to be $198 AUD or $183 USD.  Reminds me of roxy*books on eBay who try to sell FiiO E17 for almost $325. (and they have many items the same) My example was going to be a FiiO E12 they were selling for almost $400!!

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/FiiO-E17-Portable-Headphone-Amplifier-and-USB-DAC-/111353530894?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_15&hash=item19ed300a0e&_uhb=1

Anyway these sellers just cannot be stopped, I tried reporting them and it appears they're not breaking any eBay policy rules.

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That price is insane, they're kidding themselves. 135 Euros works out to be $198 AUD or $183 USD.  Reminds me of roxy*books on eBay who try to sell FiiO E17 for almost $325. (and they have many items the same) My example was going to be a FiiO E12 they were selling for almost $400!!

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/FiiO-E17-Portable-Headphone-Amplifier-and-USB-DAC-/111353530894?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_15&hash=item19ed300a0e&_uhb=1

Anyway these sellers just cannot be stopped, I tried reporting them and it appears they're not breaking any eBay policy rules.

% of commision on ebay is the same - *guess* which kind of seller is conviniently more welcome ...

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% of commision on ebay is the same - *guess* which kind of seller is conviniently more welcome ...

I never thought of it like that. On the mark there mate.
post #622 of 4001
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Originally Posted by analogsurviver View Post

I got curious and checked the Topping NX1 - looks put together with quite decent parts. I remember seeing it mentioned over a year ago - at one hell of a lot different price. Further "improved" here - just a single example, there are more: 
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Topping-NX1-Headphone-Amplifier-Kopfhorerverstarker-Verstarker-ca-0-Distortion-/151246571742?pt=DE_Elektronik_Computer_TV_Video_Elektronik_Verst%C3%A4rker&hash=item2336ff88de

Lol!

At least they offer free shipping wink.gif
post #623 of 4001
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I never thought of it like that. On the mark there mate.

Just as a reminder to think about purchases we make - I tried to "probe/provoke" on the Chinese thread regarding IEMs on DX - and got clear message to stay away from DX - fakes & all that jazz. .

 

Wonder if good/profitable items that almost always are sold out on DX and similar places that turn later on ebay and Amazon have *something* in common...

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Lol!

At least they offer free shipping wink.gif

Not according to what mein ebay is telling me - Standard Int'l Versand adds EUR 9.99 

 

post #625 of 4001
I just clicked the link and it said "kostenlos". Didn't bother to log in, that's probably why.

I think I'll pass anyway wink.gif
post #626 of 4001

Hmm is the iBasso D-Zero enough to amp these?

post #627 of 4001

The problem with NX1 is the 4 hour battery life.

I'll be sticking with E12, thank you!

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The problem with NX1 is the 4 hour battery life.

I'll be sticking with E12, thank you!

I think it's 120 hours in advertisement?

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Originally Posted by BenF View Post
 

The problem with NX1 is the 4 hour battery life.

I'll be sticking with E12, thank you!

NX1 has 120 hour battery life.

post #630 of 4001
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Originally Posted by Grayson73 View Post
 

NX1 has 120 hour battery life.

Not according to http://www.ebay.com/itm/Topping-NX1-Earphone-Headphone-Portable-Amplifier-3-5mm-USB-Rechargeable-Battery-/181307924700

 

- By internal NX-1 it's a 1000mAh large-capacity litchium polymer battery which the battery life can reach max 4 hours.

 

 

"litchium polymer" :smile: 

 

Same on Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/Topping-Portable-Earphone-Amplifier-Black/dp/B00HFMNR4M

 

1000mAh large-capacity lithium polymer battery makes the battery life can reach max 4 hours.


Edited by BenF - 6/4/14 at 8:42am
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