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Where do I go from the M100s?
Mar 13, 2014 at 9:26 PM Post #31 of 62
someguydude said:
   
HiDef Lifestyle in Harrisburg PA. It's a HUGE HiFi A/V store (tons of showrooms) with one big area for headphone stuff. 
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Nice I live close to there too but in Virginia.  I was thinking about making a trip out there sometime in the near future.  It's good to know it's a great place!
 
Mar 13, 2014 at 9:38 PM Post #32 of 62
Still think it's worth trying HP50, given the charts. If you order from Amazon, you can always return.
 
Mar 13, 2014 at 9:43 PM Post #33 of 62
claritas said:
Still think it's worth trying HP50, given the charts. If you order from Amazon, you can always return.
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Not gonna lie, the HP50 do seem nifty, but I'm not convinced they're really an upgrade. Same price region, similar reviews, both Wall of Fame on Inner Fidelity. If I can try a pair out first I'd love to though.
 
Mar 13, 2014 at 10:19 PM Post #34 of 62
Great thread - had the same question in the back burner for the last month or so.  Was the main issue with the D7100 compared to the M100s that the price difference didn't justify the subtle improvement?  Only reason I ask is that I was optimistic that the D7100s would live up to my expectations since they are one of the sets at the top of my list.  I've spent some time with the D600s, enjoyed them, so was hoping the next step up in their current roster was going to be "it".  Seems you share my love of the M100s, so would appreciate hearing your thoughts.  
 
Mar 13, 2014 at 10:42 PM Post #35 of 62
sikedaman said:
  Great thread - had the same question in the back burner for the last month or so.  Was the main issue with the D7100 compared to the M100s that the price difference didn't justify the subtle improvement?  Only reason I ask is that I was optimistic that the D7100s would live up to my expectations since they are one of the sets at the top of my list.  I've spent some time with the D600s, enjoyed them, so was hoping the next step up in their current roster was going to be "it".  Seems you share my love of the M100s, so would appreciate hearing your thoughts.  
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I loved the D7100s. Loved 'em. I've heard that they're not even as good as the old D7000s (now the Fostex TH900 apparently?) so if I had to spitball I'd say look at the TH900 if you wanted to move up from the D600. 
 
To me, the MAIN problem with the M100 is that their tiny ear cups and pads make them feel like the sound is smushed into your head. The D7100s had all this wonderful air and space going on. Yes, the main reason I didn't get them was that I didn't feel there was enough of an improvement to warrant dropping a grand on them, but I will admit that I am looking out for the TH900s on the second-hand market, because those may very well be winners.
 
Mar 13, 2014 at 10:56 PM Post #36 of 62

sikedaman said:
  Great thread - had the same question in the back burner for the last month or so.  Was the main issue with the D7100 compared to the M100s that the price difference didn't justify the subtle improvement?  Only reason I ask is that I was optimistic that the D7100s would live up to my expectations since they are one of the sets at the top of my list.  I've spent some time with the D600s, enjoyed them, so was hoping the next step up in their current roster was going to be "it".  Seems you share my love of the M100s, so would appreciate hearing your thoughts.  
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The 1540s are a large upgrade to the D600s.  The 1540s have less accentuated bass, they're more neutral, have much more detail, and much more clarity.  I own both the D600s and the 1540s currently.  The same could be said for the TH600s.  I've also heard people say that the D7100s aren't as neutral as the D600s but they do have the larger soundstage (the frequency graph suggests this too).  The D7100s are not worth the money, in my opinion given the other options (1540, TH600, Alpha Dogs, etc.) on the market currently.  This is coming from someone who was also interested in the D7100s after loving the D600s.  Now of course everything is subjective and I'm not trying to convince anyone to not get the D7100s but to consider the other options before buying them.  Cheers!
 
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/DenonAHD7100.pdf
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/DenonAHD600.pdf
 
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Mar 13, 2014 at 11:07 PM Post #37 of 62
Ultrasone Pro 900s have a long reputation of being great bass heavy headphones. See this thread to learn more: http://www.head-fi.org/t/527451/ultrasone-pro-900-appreciation-thread
 
Mar 14, 2014 at 12:24 AM Post #40 of 62
Ultrasone definitely has my attention. Them and Fostex are topping my list. Very, very curious about the Ultrasone Signature DJ. 
 
Mar 14, 2014 at 12:30 AM Post #41 of 62
someguydude said:
Ultrasone definitely has my attention. Them and Fostex are topping my list. Very, very curious about the Ultrasone Signature DJ. 
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Just make certain if you order Ultrasones that it is from a seller that allows returns. One of their great features is the S Logic technology which creates virtual surround, giving them a more immersive soundstage than most closed headphones. However, the S Logic also doesn't work right for some people, which is why the treble can sound very sharp (has to do with how the S Logic interacts with one's ear). I used to own the HFI-780s. Because of that S-Logic surround effect and their bass impact they definitely had one of the most engaging sounds of any bassy headphone in the under $200 range.
 
Mar 14, 2014 at 3:27 AM Post #42 of 62
The Fostex' charts are at Headroom too (and some of the Ultrasones).
 

 
Mar 14, 2014 at 1:01 PM Post #43 of 62
claritas said:
  The Fostex' charts are at Headroom too (and some of the Ultrasones).
 
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That's a VERY interesting chart, too. Because it looks like the TH600 and M100 follow 1:1 and then go in exact opposite directions on the treble. Has anyone heard both that could explain what's going on there?
 
Mar 14, 2014 at 1:08 PM Post #44 of 62
Reading the love for the old Denons here, I have the D2000s,
and whilst I prefer them to the ES10 overall, the ES10 has much better bass,
if that's your thing.
 
Mar 14, 2014 at 9:11 PM Post #45 of 62
someguydude said:
That's a VERY interesting chart, too. Because it looks like the TH600 and M100 follow 1:1 and then go in exact opposite directions on the treble. Has anyone heard both that could explain what's going on there?
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Judging from the graph the treble is much tighter on the TH600s.
 
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