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post #31 of 8616
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Originally Posted by CosmicHolyGhost View Post

I believe the asking price of Hugo suggests that it will outperform the HM-901. Any comparison between the two will be highly appreciated especially in handling highres FLAC files.
Seriously thinking to get one later on this year after the inital rush.
Many thanks

Have not had any issues with FLAC files - this is my default format for PCM and DSF for DSD. Still a bit early to put in final judgement but my mind is coming around to thinking the Hugo's real competition is with big DAC's not portable ones. I like it better than the Mytek and the Benchmark DAC2. Haven't put it side by side with the Eximus but leaning toward's the Hugo....  Would be curious if someone did a shootout with the Aurelac Vega. 

 

It's not every day you hear a DAC which brings some surprises and smiles - when you hear it you take notice. Just commenting on the D/A conversion here and not the amp side - since I'm using IEM's this is not a real issue headphone users take note - your mileage will vary. If anyone would like to lend me a pair of LCD-X would be more than happy to try it out :L3000: 

post #32 of 8616
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Originally Posted by jamato8 View Post
 

How easy is it to use normal 3.5 IC's on?

 

It begins with something pretty darn cheap like these guys, not really portable at all IMHO

 

http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/393204799/1_RCA_Female_to_2_RCA.html

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/3-5mm-Female-to-2-RCA-Male-Stereo-Headphone-Adapter-Y-Splitter-Converter-/271273162118

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/AV-Converter-3-5mm-Stereo-Female-Jack-to-Splitter-2-RCA-Male-Adapter-Connector-/140974260823

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/5pcs-AV-Converter-3-5mm-Mono-Female-Jack-to-Splitter-2-RCA-Male-Adapter-Lot-Pack-/400486334717

 

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Or something like Y-splitter

 

http://www.amazon.com/Knoxed-Ivuna-Phono-Female-Stereo/dp/B005LIG0WS

 

http://www.amazon.com/3-5mm-Stereo-Female-Y-Cable-6-Inch/dp/B000I23TTE

 

http://www.seismicaudiospeakers.com/mini-stereo-phone-to-RCA-cable-p/sa-i2rm1e.htm

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mediabridge-3-5mm-Female-To-2-RCA-Male-Adapter-8-Inches-/271137074126

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/3-5mm-Stereo-Female-to-2-RCA-Male-Y-Cable-6FT-3-5mm-Male-to-Male-Cable-/271046971982

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Free-Ship-Mediabridge-3-5mm-Female-To-2-RCA-Male-Adapter-8-Inches-Free-Ship-/291069091970

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/3-5mm-Stereo-Female-to-2-RCA-Male-Y-Cable-6ft-Gold-Plated-3-5mm-Stereo-Audio-/390606223507

 

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If neither one works well for us because of the length , then we could go for something short and sweet like ADL / Furutech iD-35R

 

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=18657179003

 

http://www.partsconnexion.com/FTECH-76372.html

 

http://www.mingo-hmw.com/home/goods.php?id=2661

 

http://www.jaben.com.hk/ProductView.asp?ID=732&SortID=345

 

http://www.furutechwebshop.nl/furutech-adl-id-35r-3-5mm-to-rca-kabel.html

 

http://www.amazon.com/Furutech-i-device-cable-Stereo-Meter/dp/B007D43Y4K

 

http://www.amazon.co.jp/フルテック-ステレオミニとRCAケーブル-0-6m-ADL-ID35R/dp/B007D43Y4K

 

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Originally Posted by jamato8 View Post
 

Thinking seriously about the Hugo but it is a chunk of change. 

 

We're talking about desktop quality in a portable package here, that's probably well worth the 1,000-quid investment when we non-EU members are ordering directly from UK.

 

IMHO it's a bit too tough to beat the SQ at that price point as long as we don't need balanced outputs.

post #33 of 8616
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Originally Posted by harmonix View Post
 

Have not had any issues with FLAC files - this is my default format for PCM and DSF for DSD. Still a bit early to put in final judgement but my mind is coming around to thinking the Hugo's real competition is with big DAC's not portable ones. I like it better than the Mytek and the Benchmark DAC2. Haven't put it side by side with the Eximus but leaning toward's the Hugo....  Would be curious if someone did a shootout with the Aurelac Vega. 

 

It's not every day you hear a DAC which brings some surprises and smiles - when you hear it you take notice. Just commenting on the D/A conversion here and not the amp side - since I'm using IEM's this is not a real issue headphone users take note - your mileage will vary. If anyone would like to lend me a pair of LCD-X would be more than happy to try it out :L3000: 

 

That's really serious food for thought coming from an owner of EMM Labs DAC2X. Such an interesting toy for us who wanna get desktop quality in a portable package.

 

I've been thinking about what to get for my own (relatively) end-game, off-the-grid rig while Hugo could be a serious contender. Pair that with Red Wine Audio Signature 70.2 Monoblocks plus something like HE-6 could very well be the best bang for the buck IMHO. No expensive power conditioning and cables required.

post #34 of 8616
Hi seeteeyou will u buy one?
post #35 of 8616

Personally I'm more like a fan of importing for $13,000 plus shipping instead of paying $18,300 locally

 

http://www.dma-audio.com/product_detail.php?id=2317

 

First and second batches in UK should be sold out already so that's gotta be at least 2 weeks of waiting

 

http://www.custom-cable.co.uk/chord-hugo-portable-dac-headphone-amplifier.html

 

And there's no elegant way for connecting Sony ZX1 / F887 to Hugo unless someone could come up with DIY solutions.

 


 

BTW, have you guys seen any decent micro USB 2.0 cables for desktop yet? Adapters aren't exactly my cup of tea and I only found a few so far

 

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=18862447057

 

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=21548220683

 

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=20124665312

 

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=27151992340

 

http://www.custom-cable.co.uk/audioquest-cinnamon-usb-digital-audio-cable.html

 

http://www.custom-cable.co.uk/vertere-acoustics-d-fi-usb-interconnect-cable.html

 

http://www.custom-cable.co.uk/vertere-acoustics-d-fi-double-d-usb-interconnect-cable.html

post #36 of 8616
Stone Audio just called... my Hugo is in! Heading over there after work to pick it up. Once I find some time to have a proper listen I'll post up my thoughts.
post #37 of 8616

Mine just turned up!

 

Important stuff first:

My Cardas Golden Reference and Nordost Red Dawn interconnects don't fit, at all, which is very annoying.  I've got an ancient pair of Audioquest Diamond 2 which do, but they aren't long enough so some rearranging is required.

My Audioquest Vodka Toslink cable doesn't fit either, also because of the recessed inputs.

Holding down the Crossfeed button on switch-on bypasses the volume control, but does so for both line level AND headphone outputs.

 

Ergonomics:

None of the buttons or inputs are labelled.

Source selection, crossfeed mode and battery life all use internal LEDs to indicate status.  I can't see any of the LEDs with it on a my hi-fi rack so I'm flying blind.

The power switch is impossible to use with my thumb, but a small finger with a fingernail can just get it.  I haven't tried changing source yet.

Software installation was painless on Win8.1 and I'm using WASAPI at the moment.  It installed ASIO automatically, but I've not tried that.

 

Look and feel:

It's tiny, and weighs almost nothing.

If I hadn't been told it was made out of aluminium I'd have assumed it was plastic (but if I have to carry it anywhere I won't be complaining).

The buttons are small and plastic, including the volume control.

It goes loud.  I currently have HD800s, Westone 4r and some cheap Sennheiser IEMs helping run it in, with the IEMs playing pretty loud, the HD800s quietly and the volume LED at light red / pink.  I'll want to be very careful with the volume on IEMs.

 

Stuff I already knew:

The lights are pretty but pure style over function.  I guess I'll learn them eventually, if I pick it up and peer inside.

The headphone outputs are on the same end as the RCAs and the opposite end to the input select button, which may make sense for a portable device but doesn't really work on a rack.

 

Sound:

I'm only 30 minutes in, if that, and running on mains power but it's making my music sound interesting, which is score 1 for the DAC.  I'll leave it playing for the next fortnight before making any judgements, but will have to remove the IEMs if I want to crank the HD800s.

 

I may find I change the way I use my hi-fi with this, moving it around and just plugging it in to headphones or amplifiers according to what I'm doing.  I've got a 3m Audioquest Cinnamon USB cable on order which will give me that flexibility.  If it actually fits!

 

 

Update: changing inputs is a lot easier than switching it on, so that button is fine.  I still have to guess what source I'm listening to from the content and the bit rate light though.


Edited by Stormfriend - 1/31/14 at 4:34am
post #38 of 8616

Nope, the Audioquest micro usb connector doesn't fit either.  I was joking when I suggested that before, but now the recessed ports are seriously starting to p*** me off.  To be fair the Audioquest is a larger plug surround than my generic cables, but it connects to my Galaxy S3 just fine.  I could try filing the plug down but I don't know what the internal construction is like.  I'm also seriously considering removing the casing of the Hugo and running it naked.  The casing obstructs my view of the LEDs from any angle except top down, makes turning it on and off pointlessly hard, and is a PITA for cabling.  The only reason not to do so is the warranty.

post #39 of 8616

Ouch, that sounded like we won't be able to make our own DIY cables with this right-angled connector for Hugo then

 

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And there will be plenty of RCA connectors that won't be any good for the recessed jacks as well.

post #40 of 8616
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Originally Posted by seeteeyou View Post
 

Ouch, that sounded like we won't be able to make our own DIY cables with this right-angled connector for Hugo then

 

The Audioquest connectors have a slightly rounded profile and are too high (the top and bottom hit the casework).  A squarer connector might be fine, although the one in your picture is likely to obstruct the on/off button with it's cabling if it's the way round that I think it is.

 

I've discovered why the internal LEDs were so hard to see too.  When the unit is plugged into the mains supply there's a bright white charging LED inside that reflects in the glass porthole and masks the others.  Once I unplugged the mains charger the white LED went out and the coloured LEDs became visible from an angle.  I still don't know what they mean unless I open up the manual, but at least I can see them now. :-)

post #41 of 8616

I wonder why they didn't think about the fit of so many common after market RCA's? Frankly a distributor for Audio Note Uk, that I used to know, like Radio Shack RCA's , the cheap thins ones as well or better than the ultra expensive ones because they were basically the same material and the Radio Shack connector was easier to use, thinner so you had less brass for the signal to go through and often tin plated, which works better than gold and the price is excellent. I have used them as well and they are fine. 

 

Looking forward to more impressions of the sound and comparisons. 

post #42 of 8616

In a portable. Having less sticking out will prolong the jacks. Things like that get dropped and they probably reduced the service rate by a factor of ten.

post #43 of 8616
Good point.
post #44 of 8616
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Originally Posted by goodvibes View Post

In a portable. Having less sticking out will prolong the jacks. Things like that get dropped and they probably reduced the service rate by a factor of ten.

I think a factor of ten is overstating things a bit. They could surely have been recessed, but with a wider cut out around them to cause fewer issues with connectors. I think the design here in this regard is still a bit poor, particularly in an item of this expense.
post #45 of 8616

By being narrow, if plugs are in when it gets knocked, their movement is limited and a factor of ten may not be overstating. Limiting that leverage is a big deal for board mounts.

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