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post #2521 of 14206
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Originally Posted by nOtEcH View Post

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Originally Posted by podeschi View Post

I am using Onkyo HF Player app via cck to Hugo. Onkyo app doesn't allow for streaming. I have other apps that play music from dlna stream (8player, PlugPlayer, etc) but none of these output from iphone cck setup at higher res. is there a magic app out there that wirelessly grabs the high res files and outputs via cck to hugo in native high res fashion?


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8Player will do that. You need the following:

ALAC files on a DLNA / UPnP server
Configure 8Player (under "player" i think it was) to use "Native iOS"

8Player will then play high resolution files at correct resolution / sample rate, but If you do not do the nessessary steps, Hugo will just play the files in 16/44.1.
One problem though.. 8Player doesn't support gapless playback yet, but they have told me that a future upgrade will have this feature. I haven't got a confirmation about what time span we are talking about though..

Thank you!
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Doesn't show "native" as an option
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post #2523 of 14206
Robert,

If you are still looking at this thread and gold plated rca connectors are the solution for original chassis owners, I suggest that you consider doing 90 degree connectors instead of straight through. 90 degree connectors give you a little more play to attach larger head cables as you can angle them, but I would sure that the connectors touching on accident don't conduct signal. Also, 90 degree connector makes attaching short cable to transport easier as cable would be facing right way already. In any case, any connector is helpful as cap assuming the outside of connector doesn't conduct signal.
post #2524 of 14206
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Originally Posted by podeschi View Post

Doesn't show "native" as an option
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My bad.. remembered it wrong.. try "Default iOS" and I guess it would work for you, as it did for me. smily_headphones1.gif
post #2525 of 14206
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Originally Posted by holeout View Post
 

 

Thanks Rob for sharing your technical and design insights on the Hugo and DSD, great read! Can you also share your preference of music formats used for the Hugo?

 

Currently, i'm having some problems with DSD ripped from PS3 with regard to noise. It's like a white noise from about 7K - 10K, and I'm trying to  debug where the problem is - software or hardware. Maybe Ted_b can shed me some light on this, I'm on 

sr_385 v3.6 for ripping to iso and use scarletbook 252 or iso2dsd_OSX_v5 to convert to dff/dsf. Thanks.

No sorry no suggestions on your hiss - your not just hearing master tape noise? You will hear it with 70's and earlier recordings.

 

I am constantly amazed at how good AAC sounds - much of my listening is BBC radio 3 on iplayer  - the through the night program. I just turn it on, work, and every so often I hear something that catches my breath. And this is with 192/128 kbs AAC+. It is very puzzling that the timing benefits of Hugo also very much works with compressed music.The compression algorithms have coding specifically to preserve transients, and it works. Hugo is a format leveler, in that I have heard truly engaging emotional music from AAC, CD, and DSD. The big benefit of Hugo is not it's sound - it just connects you to the music. 

post #2526 of 14206
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Originally Posted by Crashem View Post

Robert,

If you are still looking at this thread and gold plated rca connectors are the solution for original chassis owners, I suggest that you consider doing 90 degree connectors instead of straight through. 90 degree connectors give you a little more play to attach larger head cables as you can angle them, but I would sure that the connectors touching on accident don't conduct signal. Also, 90 degree connector makes attaching short cable to transport easier as cable would be facing right way already. In any case, any connector is helpful as cap assuming the outside of connector doesn't conduct signal.

Thanks, I will pass this on to John Franks. 

post #2527 of 14206
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Originally Posted by Kakki View Post
 

Mr. Watts, today I tried Hugo to drive my B&W 805 Diamond speaker directly and found that Hugo can drive it perfectly with enough loud sound.

The performance was just amazing even compared with my reference amplifier, a full digital amplifier, SONY TA-DR1. Actually, Hugo had more details, better sound stage, and smoother trebles...

So I would like to know if you would plan a desktop version of Hugo. I imagine it would be very nice if there is a desktop version of Hugo with normal power supply (not battery), input / output terminals with more spaces in between, just a little bit more juice to the amplifier to drive low efficient speakers, and may be an analogue input for just in case. Upgraded QBD76 will be very nice as well but as you mentioned in previous posts, if DAC could drive speakers / headphones directly, there is no need to add a separate amplifier to add distortions. Also, I would appreciate if I need to take care less components / cables in the system. Would appreciate your thoughts and also would want to say thank you for creating such a great product as Hugo.

 

Yes I know I have used horn loudspeakers and it went very loud, and very transparent. You think - how can such a small box create so much volume!

 

If you try this, it must be 8 ohms or bigger and efficient as you only have 1W, and don't go above ultra violet on the volume control. Also it helps if the charger is connected too.

 

As too future projects - I am very much wrapped up with the QBD upgrade at the moment.

post #2528 of 14206
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Originally Posted by Kakki View Post

Mr. Watts, today I tried Hugo to drive my B&W 805 Diamond speaker directly and found that Hugo can drive it perfectly with enough loud sound.
The performance was just amazing even compared with my reference amplifier, a full digital amplifier, SONY TA-DR1. Actually, Hugo had more details, better sound stage, and smoother trebles...
So I would like to know if you would plan a desktop version of Hugo. I imagine it would be very nice if there is a desktop version of Hugo with normal power supply (not battery), input / output terminals with more spaces in between, just a little bit more juice to the amplifier to drive low efficient speakers, and may be an analogue input for just in case. Upgraded QBD76 will be very nice as well but as you mentioned in previous posts, if DAC could drive speakers / headphones directly, there is no need to add a separate amplifier to add distortions. Also, I would appreciate if I need to take care less components / cables in the system. Would appreciate your thoughts and also would want to say thank you for creating such a great product as Hugo.

Maybe I am misunderstanding this post, but I find this hard to believe. I have those speakers and wouldn't dare attaching them directly to hugo. They are 88 sensitivity at 8 ohms with recommended wattage of at least 50. As Ron watts said, hugo puts out 1 watt at 8 ohms. Now I can imagine it driving some flea watt speakers like horns. It makes no sense that it could even begin to drive dynamic speaker like bw 805. Even the physical connection to the speakers would be tuff. I would need some kind of splitter on each cable to split to positive and negative or bridge it somehow and that is using rca at line level. Using the headphone amp would be like doing splitting of right/left channels and splitting/bridging on positive/negative terminals. Even if you could get sound of it, it would sound terrible and the battery on Hugo would die very fast and I doubt charger could keep up.

Are you sure you aren't using another amplifier? Can you explain what the audio chain is and how it is cabled up to hugo? Also remember a desktop version likely won't have amplifier in it beyond getting signal to line level.
Edited by Crashem - 4/27/14 at 10:37pm
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I sat in my music room today surrounded by reference gear including 3 turntables including spiral groove and AMG v12 and 2 reference headphone amps, Magico speakers, tube and solid state amps....and I sat on the couch for hours listening simply to my Hugo and Audeze LCD-X headphones. Amazing piece of equipment the Hugo. Absolutely amazing. My other gear is jealous.
post #2530 of 14206
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Originally Posted by Crashem View Post

Maybe I am misunderstanding this post, but I find this hard to believe. I have those speakers and wouldn't dare attaching them directly to hugo. They are 88 sensitivity at 8 ohms with recommended wattage of at least 50. As Ron watts said, hugo puts out 1 watt at 8 ohms. Now I can imagine it driving some flea watt speakers like horns. It makes no sense that it could even begin to drive dynamic speaker like bw 805. Even the physical connection to the speakers would be tuff. I would need some kind of splitter on each cable to split to positive and negative or bridge it somehow and that is using rca at line level. Using the headphone amp would be like doing splitting of right/left channels and splitting/bridging on positive/negative terminals. Even if you could get sound of it, it would sound terrible and the battery on Hugo would die very fast and I doubt charger could keep up.

Are you sure you aren't using another amplifier? Can you explain what the audio chain is and how it is cabled up to hugo? Also remember a desktop version likely won't have amplifier in it beyond getting signal to line level.
It works source Hugo speakers , that's it!
post #2531 of 14206
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Originally Posted by Crashem View Post

Maybe I am misunderstanding this post, but I find this hard to believe. I have those speakers and wouldn't dare attaching them directly to hugo. They are 88 sensitivity at 8 ohms with recommended wattage of at least 50. As Ron watts said, hugo puts out 1 watt at 8 ohms. Now I can imagine it driving some flea watt speakers like horns. It makes no sense that it could even begin to drive dynamic speaker like bw 805. Even the physical connection to the speakers would be tuff. I would need some kind of splitter on each cable to split to positive and negative or bridge it somehow and that is using rca at line level. Using the headphone amp would be like doing splitting of right/left channels and splitting/bridging on positive/negative terminals. Even if you could get sound of it, it would sound terrible and the battery on Hugo would die very fast and I doubt charger could keep up.

Are you sure you aren't using another amplifier? Can you explain what the audio chain is and how it is cabled up to hugo? Also remember a desktop version likely won't have amplifier in it beyond getting signal to line level.

I've used it to drive some baby Monitor Audio speakers and that worked too. They're also 88db and 8ohm. I haven't listened critically enough to comment on sound quality, but volume in a small room was fine. It depends what you're expecting in terms of volume or bass slam I guess. Given I much prefer the Hugo feeding an amp for the HD800s I suspect I'd be the same for speakers, but with the different impedance who knows? The option is there anyway.
post #2532 of 14206
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Originally Posted by Crashem View Post


Maybe I am misunderstanding this post, but I find this hard to believe. I have those speakers and wouldn't dare attaching them directly to hugo. They are 88 sensitivity at 8 ohms with recommended wattage of at least 50. As Ron watts said, hugo puts out 1 watt at 8 ohms. Now I can imagine it driving some flea watt speakers like horns. It makes no sense that it could even begin to drive dynamic speaker like bw 805. Even the physical connection to the speakers would be tuff. I would need some kind of splitter on each cable to split to positive and negative or bridge it somehow and that is using rca at line level. Using the headphone amp would be like doing splitting of right/left channels and splitting/bridging on positive/negative terminals. Even if you could get sound of it, it would sound terrible and the battery on Hugo would die very fast and I doubt charger could keep up.

Are you sure you aren't using another amplifier? Can you explain what the audio chain is and how it is cabled up to hugo? Also remember a desktop version likely won't have amplifier in it beyond getting signal to line level.

Hi, you are not misunderstanding my post. I drove my 805 directly with Hugo. The digital input was my Linn Akurate DS/K and as I explained in the previous post, I attached speaker cables to RCA plugs and then plugged them to Hugo's RCA outputs. It worked very well. 

805 was very loud when the volume was in ultra-violet color. I found that volume level at blue color was loud enough for most of the albums I had.

For some of the albums, I had to turn my Hugo's volume to ultra-violet level... but never the white color level. Please kindly try yourself as well as it is pretty easy to try.

From the sound quality perspective, Hugo drove my 805 Diamond very well. Hugo was superior in details, sound stage preciseness and had no harsh in the trebles. I found that my reference digital amplifier TA-DR1 sounded no better in those areas. TA-DR1 was more powerful in the bass and more live but I guess there was not much difference in the level of sound quality. They are just different in the sound characters. Considering that my TA-DR1 used to be SONY's flagship model ... Hugo's sound quality was very impressive.

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I will posting news of a four-day Chord-Noble demo-event in London this weekend tomorrow... stay tuned.


Edited by OK-Guy - 4/28/14 at 4:25am
post #2534 of 14206
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Originally Posted by podeschi View Post

I sat in my music room today surrounded by reference gear including 3 turntables including spiral groove and AMG v12 and 2 reference headphone amps, Magico speakers, tube and solid state amps....and I sat on the couch for hours listening simply to my Hugo and Audeze LCD-X headphones. Amazing piece of equipment the Hugo. Absolutely amazing. My other gear is jealous.

Yeah I know what you mean! I keep going back to my xc sticking into the Hugo. My wife is about to get jealous about the 'dog' soon!
post #2535 of 14206
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Originally Posted by Rob Watts View Post

Thanks, I will pass this on to John Franks. 
I spoke with Matt at Chord they've say they have 500 pieces of a short straight gold plated solid brass RCA extender being made for them. These will be available on request to those customers that have sent in their Guarantee cards. These parts will come along with a complete set of micro USB cables too. Matt says that Hugo has only one screening ground and that is the chassis so there are no problems with these touching each other or the chassis.
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