Knowledge Zenith (KZ) impressions thread
Jan 20, 2017 at 4:34 AM Post #15,526 of 63,940
  Should I worry about buying other brands of Chinese headphones on Aliexpress because they might be fake? :frowning2:

IMO, you should try buying from GearBest first. If they don't provide that kind of headphones, go to Aliexpress and look for highly recommended stores with additional keywords: original, authentic, etc. then pray 
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Jan 20, 2017 at 6:58 AM Post #15,527 of 63,940
The KZ ZS3 are really good, specially after decreasing the bass, I can hear details in songs I never heard before!
Though the answer button is a half unresponsive and I use it for next/previous tracks controls, needless to say it gets messy and instead of doing next track it will pause the song.
About that, it's supposed to ''pause'' the song not to terminate the music app, but if I don't resume in the 3 seconds after ''pausing'' the whole app will close.
So any way ''force'' resume music?
Any way to make tu answer button more responsive?
 
Jan 20, 2017 at 7:33 AM Post #15,528 of 63,940
The ZST colorfuls are in my opinion the best you're going to get out of the top most liked in this thread. I have not tried the ZS3 yet, but I believe those are a more bass heavy sound. The ZST colorfuls are wonderful with a soundstage that is unbelievable.

Pearl Jam - Soon Forget is quite possibly one of the best experiences I've ever had with music. I admittedly had imbibed in a small amount of the devil's lettuce before hand, but wow. Close your eyes, you can see a guy playing a ukeule in front of you, his head to maybe 3 degrees right. You can tell exactly which way his head is moving when he's singing, you can tell when he puts his head down and sings, and you can tell exactly which way the ukeule is positioned. It truly is amazing and I get that from no other KZ, or Tennmak. I get that it's a binaural recording, but it just blows my mind.

Colorfuls ARE tuned slightly different than the OG ZST's.
Does This iem is better than the expensive iem like sennheiser,byerdyanamic,or etc.. Cuz your description on zst colorful is just pissing me off,does the sound really good? Or better than campfire audio layla huh?
 
Jan 20, 2017 at 7:57 AM Post #15,529 of 63,940
Does This iem is better than the expensive iem like sennheiser,byerdyanamic,or etc.. Cuz your description on zst colorful is just pissing me off,does the sound really good? Or better than campfire audio layla huh?

That seems overly aggressive. What is your point exactly?
 
Jan 20, 2017 at 8:16 AM Post #15,530 of 63,940
Does This iem is better than the expensive iem like sennheiser,byerdyanamic,or etc.. Cuz your description on zst colorful is just pissing me off,does the sound really good? Or better than campfire audio layla huh?

ZST is not comparable to the JHA Layla because the sound signature is different. I own both earphones and have been using the Layla (v1) for the past 2 weeks. I just listened to the ZST (colorful) for the past half hour and can confirm that I still REALLY like them. Could do with more mid-bass and low-mids but for <12USD (11.11 sale) it's nothing to complain about. Some people prefer the ZS3, others prefer the ED9, YMMV.
 
Jan 20, 2017 at 8:52 AM Post #15,531 of 63,940
Does This iem is better than the expensive iem like sennheiser,byerdyanamic,or etc.. Cuz your description on zst colorful is just pissing me off,does the sound really good? Or better than campfire audio layla huh?
I feel you gotta chill a bit here as he did state that it is in his opinion and everyone is entitled to their own opinion especially when there's more subjective opinion than objective when it comes to audio. And comparing 10+$ IEM with 2000$ IEM ??? It doesn't sound sane to me at all as they're definitely at a different league
 
Jan 20, 2017 at 9:50 AM Post #15,534 of 63,940
Between the ED3c and EDR2, which one is more comfortable to wear for hours?

 
I don't find much of a difference given they're both pretty standard barrel shapes and very light. If I had to choose I would give the edge ever so slightly to the EDR2 simply because the housing it a little small in diameter and it's less likely to touch your ear. ED3c has a better signature for long term listening though; warmer and smoother with less prominent treble. Well, mine does at least :p
 
Jan 20, 2017 at 9:56 AM Post #15,535 of 63,940
I don't find much of a difference given they're both pretty standard barrel shapes and very light. If I had to choose I would give the edge ever so slightly to the EDR2 simply because the housing it a little small in diameter and it's less likely to touch your ear. ED3c has a better signature for long term listening though; warmer and smoother with less prominent treble. Well, mine does at least :p


How dark is the ED3c compared to ATR? The ATR is too dark for me. The right amount of treble for me is the ZS3's treble, it's still smooth while maintaining clarity, but I'm still having issues with ZS3's fit (it hurts my ears)

I could probably get both ED3c and EDR2 but noo I already have too many IEMs lol
 
Jan 20, 2017 at 10:06 AM Post #15,536 of 63,940
There has been a lot of discussion as to which KZ is best, with people listing their preferences.  The important fact is that the person making the list can detect differences between earphones that will allow them to understand what it is that causes one earphone to be more enjoyable to them than the other. (these lists may or may not have any relevance to your likes)  Even an earphone that you find you dislike should be used as an opportunity to better define your personal likes and dislikes.  When I sit down to listen to my music I always have 3 or 4 different earphones available because my favourite at that time will depend on my mood, the mood I want to obtain, the genre of the music and even the artist I decide on.  I have been in this hobby for about 4 year now have purchased quite a few earphones however I am sure the benefits of a $2000 earphone would still be beyond my ability to truly appreciate.  Years from now and after getting know many more earphones hopefully I will be able to work up to the point where I can appreciate the value of a $2000 earphone.  For now I am still getting a lot of enjoyment and learning from the below $50 earphones.  My point is that with the many different KZ models available and their reasonable price there is plenty of opportunity to learn your personal preferences so that when you decide to make that next earphone purchase you will have a better understanding of what to look when doing your research for your next purchase.  I've owned the ZSTs for about 2 months now and I must say that they are still very enjoyable and continue to impress me.
 
Jan 20, 2017 at 10:07 AM Post #15,537 of 63,940
How dark is the ED3c compared to ATR? The ATR is too dark for me. The right amount of treble for me is the ZS3's treble, it's still smooth while maintaining clarity, but I'm still having issues with ZS3's fit (it hurts my ears)

I could probably get both ED3c and EDR2 but noo I already have too many IEMs lol


Oh come on now, no one can have too many KZ iem's
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Jan 20, 2017 at 10:27 AM Post #15,538 of 63,940
How dark is the ED3c compared to ATR? The ATR is too dark for me. The right amount of treble for me is the ZS3's treble, it's still smooth while maintaining clarity, but I'm still having issues with ZS3's fit (it hurts my ears)

I could probably get both ED3c and EDR2 but noo I already have too many IEMs lol

 
I would say the ATR is the darker of the two. If you want something closer to the ZS3's presentation, the RX could be a better pick. Traditional traditional shape and a little more ergonomic than the ED3c. Very similar signature but with a touch more treble emphasis.
 
As Pod said, you can never have too many iems :D
 
Jan 20, 2017 at 11:08 AM Post #15,539 of 63,940
Okay, I have been reading many pages from this thread.

It seems like everyone here likes a little sparkle in their treble. They want a bright sound. There's nothing wrong with that, everyone has a preference.

I am the complete opposite. I like my headphones/earphones warm and dark. What I'm saying is that I jolt at the sight of sibilance and metallic-sounding treble. Call it shellshock from the Superlux 681.

So here's my deal:

- What is the KZ sound? Every brand has a unique sound signature.
- If I absolutely loathed the ED9s, can I basically rule out most KZ earphones out of my life?
- Am I expecting too much out of $5~$30 earphones? Is it worth it to spend more on a good pair?

Based on the limited feedback I read online, it seems like I would like the ED7s. But I am still waiting for shipping.
 
Jan 20, 2017 at 11:30 AM Post #15,540 of 63,940
- What is the KZ sound? Every brand has a unique sound signature.
- If I absolutely loathed the ED9s, can I basically rule out most KZ earphones out of my life?
- Am I expecting too much out of $5~$30 earphones? Is it worth it to spend more on a good pair?

Based on the limited feedback I read online, it seems like I would like the ED7s. But I am still waiting for shipping.


-I don't think that there's any unique sound tuning that's more prominent in KZ product, you can't really expect a "house" sound signature within chinese brand because most of them oem-ed their product from somewhere else, unlike major brands who is doing their own research.

-you can just get ATE, if you hate both ATE and ED9 then you can just say goodbye to KZ. Considering they're like the polar opposite.

-yes you are, you had to be more realistic about expectations. KZ iems mostly are $10 iems that sounds like $10 iems. Nothing more or less. Going up twice the price won't give you twice the improvement though, that is where KZ shine because it maybe 80% similar in sounds to some of $20 -$30 iems
 

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