Knowledge Zenith (KZ) impressions thread
Nov 20, 2016 at 3:04 PM Post #13,576 of 63,884
Finally received my ED12s, and I'm enjoying them so far compared to the Xiaomi Hybrids I used previously. Mids and vocals seem to be more forward which is a nice change, as the Hybrids were really dark, and took a while to get used to them. I also ordered the newer Hybrid successor (3 drivers), and might also pick up the ZS3 eventually.
 
Nov 20, 2016 at 4:03 PM Post #13,579 of 63,884
   
 
 
What are your preferences? What type of music do you listen to? What is best to one person might not be best to you. I think the ATR is the better of the two due to a more balanced and detailed sound. You might want a little more bass though, and the benefit of removable cables, so in that case the ZS3 would better suit your needs. Also, skip the ATE unless you like the look more. The ATR is essentially the same just slightly more refined.


then i think select atr for more detail and balanced .
and realy zs3 just better in bass?
what about zst?
 
Nov 20, 2016 at 4:34 PM Post #13,580 of 63,884
Finally received my ED12s, and I'm enjoying them so far compared to the Xiaomi Hybrids I used previously. Mids and vocals seem to be more forward which is a nice change, as the Hybrids were really dark, and took a while to get used to them. I also ordered the newer Hybrid successor (3 drivers), and might also pick up the ZS3 eventually.

 
I am starting to think I've got a defected pair of ED12s... 
The mids and vocals "seem" more forward then Xiaomi's? Or are they blowing on your ears like they just came out of those icecream truck speakers? 
I loathe the ED12... they just remind me of a pair of fake Xiaomi pistons 3 I've been scammed with... the ED12 are not worthy of KZ rep... 
Or maybe mines are from a salvaged batch... I don't know... 
 
Nov 20, 2016 at 4:41 PM Post #13,581 of 63,884
 
then i think select atr for more detail and balanced .
and realy zs3 just better in bass?
what about zst?

 
I wouldn't say the ZS3 is better in the bass, just that they have more prominent bass. Both perform pretty well for cheapo earphones. The ZS3 has more prominent treble which helps make them sound a little more airy, but I feel their soundstage size is pretty close overall. General detail across the board is close too, but I gave the edge to the ATR due to their midrange which I think is their best attribute. In the end they're both stellar performers for the price and you can't go wrong picking one over the other. They just place their emphasis in different areas; ATR more balanced with that sweet AT series midrange; ZS3 more v-shaped with that big ZS series bass. 
 
Haven't heard the ZST yet unfortunately. Should be coming in this week *fingers crossed* 
 
Nov 20, 2016 at 4:43 PM Post #13,582 of 63,884
   
I am starting to think I've got a defected pair of ED12s... 
The mids and vocals "seem" more forward then Xiaomi's? Or are they blowing on your ears like they just came out of those icecream truck speakers? 
I loathe the ED12... they just remind me of a pair of fake Xiaomi pistons 3 I've been scammed with... the ED12 are not worthy of KZ rep... 
Or maybe mines are from a salvaged batch... I don't know... 

 
Mine are terrible too. No mid-bass, gobs of sub-bass. Veiled mids. Dull yet somehow well-extended treble. They just sound....wrong, haha.
 
Nov 20, 2016 at 8:53 PM Post #13,583 of 63,884
  Upcoming ZST Pro 10 BA drivers. High jump from KZ's 2-drivers models.
 


This looks like a Campfire Audio shell copy, should be using MMCX cable 
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Nov 20, 2016 at 8:55 PM Post #13,584 of 63,884
hi all,
 
been lurking and reading forever, registered long ago but felt I didn't have much to contribute until now.
 
regarding the ZST, received mine just before the weekend, and tried it and loving it!
 
this is how much I trusted you guys, bought everything blind. mostly for gifts, quite  a few others for my own "playing" pleasures.
 
IMG_2364 by chewyicecube, on Flickr
 
IMG_2391 by chewyicecube, on Flickr
 
IMG_2365 by chewyicecube, on Flickr
 
edit:
opppppps...
 
don't know how to post a picture here.
 
 
mini review on the ZST;
 
I'm coming from a pair of old-ish UM2s (about 4yrs old), felt tired and I think they need some servicing, so I was up looking for temp iems, for while it is on a boat to US get fixed and come back.
 
using a X3 1st gen as player (3/4yrs old), listen to everything under the sun, jazz, hip hop, edm, trance, rock. .
 
OOTB ZST with silver cables; I always wondered what is "brighter, darker" and stuff like that. but when I had these on for the first time, I actually understood that. it was brighter,  bass was decent, nothing to shout about. but the clarity, from something that costs me less then 10% of my um2s. I wasn't expecting this. I expected them to be decent/good. but def not THIS good.
 
I read that it's a myth to burn in heaphones, but I thought it won't harm them if I just let them loop on all types of music. after about 10-15 hrs. I swear they are better. the bass is solid but not muddy, I could hear the vocals, in front of the instruments, not sure what you call/ describe that. and i could close my eyes and diana krall could be on the piano in front of me, and the hair on my back stand. I don't have high standards for music, I DID only have a set of um2s for the last 4 yrs, so take everything with a pinch of salt.
 
only thing I didn't like;
the silicone tips, I think it's just me, they just don't fit me well, esp stock ones. not sure why or how. but they just don't work. I'm looking for a replacement silicone tip, but I think I'm better off with foam. though I don't know what fits these, I do have  an older set of comply tips with bigger bore which I have been using but don't think they are they best for these, they don't seal up very well, not sure if it's cos they are old something like that.might try some spinfits, those any good? I might just have to get foam tips from KZ
 
I will try my best to do some sort of review for all the ones for myself (from the picture). there's ed12, zs3, atr, **** dt2 and some somics. oh yea, not pictured are some monks that just arrived yesterday. if anyone is minutely interested.
 
sorry for the long post.
 
Nov 20, 2016 at 9:36 PM Post #13,585 of 63,884
  hi all,
 
been lurking and reading forever, registered long ago but felt I didn't have much to contribute until now.
 
regarding the ZST, received mine just before the weekend, and tried it and loving it!
 
this is how much I trusted you guys, bought everything blind. mostly for gifts, quite  a few others for my own "playing" pleasures.
 
IMG_2364 by chewyicecube, on Flickr
 
IMG_2391 by chewyicecube, on Flickr
 
IMG_2365 by chewyicecube, on Flickr
 
 
edit:
opppppps...
 
don't know how to post a picture here.

 
It's possibly a limitation due to having just a single post so far as there are a few restrictions on new accounts that are lifted after a few posts.  Instead of using Flickr's coding, just take the direct image link (I'll use the picture from https://www.flickr.com/photos/22973052@N02/30935886191/ as an example) and then using the editor capabilities in the reply box click the one that looks like a landscape  (hovering over it says "Insert Image") and then in the center enter the URL of the image, click the "Use URL" button, and then choose a size.  Note that the size doesn't affect the original image, it just resizes it for use in the forum, and people can then click on it to see a larger version (or middle click to open it in a new tab at full size).  Medium should give you something like this....
 
As the inserted image is one of yours, I'll remove it from my post (and image gallery, if it happened to add it to mine) in the next 24 hours as it was simply being used to show how to insert an image on the forum.
EDIT(Nov21@17:40 MST): Picture removed(end edit)
 
 
....Also, people have been BEGGING for pictures of the purple and blue ZST's, so you might want to share those pictures as soon as you can, as your photos of them look rather nice (as do the pics of the mechanical keyboards, but that's another story not for this thread).  Making me regret not having picked up a pair of them back on 11.11.
 
Nov 20, 2016 at 10:22 PM Post #13,587 of 63,884
Where's the best place to get the silver cable? I can't find anywhere.
 
Nov 21, 2016 at 1:55 AM Post #13,589 of 63,884
Thanks, Shawn71. I was familiar with the ZN1 and their included amp. I'm mainly interested in the ZSx series, however.

I'm someone who's fresh from his new (and first) KZ purchase, and that's the ATE-s. But the ZSx has piqued my interested. So, if you - forum members - had to pick one of these models for your next purchase, which one would it be - ZS1, ZS2, ZS3 or ZST? Which one would be the most interesting to listen to after the ATE-S?


Ok sure......but I have none of these atm but zs3 in transit so really cant comment. May be b9 was spot-on from where you are coming from.

And still if I have to pick one of these in question, I wld go for zs3. Otoh, you might want to consider ED9 if its not in your mind yet,imo.
 

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