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post #241 of 3374
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with colored tri-flange and tips? :D

 

Could color the tri-tab I guess but its kinda clear now. tips are kinda clear also.

post #242 of 3374
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Originally Posted by Aurisonics View Post
 

 

Could color the tri-tab I guess but its kinda clear now. tips are kinda clear also.

 

I'm fine with that as well, the color option is just a general marketing idea since many general consumers actually cares about the looks/trend of an earphone :etysmile:

Hope you're not annoyed, i'm just throwing some ideas to help market the Rockets to the wider market :p 

post #243 of 3374
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Originally Posted by Levanter View Post
 

 

I'm fine with that as well, the color option is just a general marketing idea since many general consumers actually cares about the looks/trend of an earphone :etysmile:

Hope you're not annoyed, i'm just throwing some ideas to help market the Rockets to the wider market :p 


All good.

 

We were going to make them out of polycarbonate and mold in colors but titanium hard to beat from a durability standpoint.

post #244 of 3374
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Originally Posted by Aurisonics View Post


All good.

We were going to make them out of polycarbonate and mold in colors but titanium hard to beat from a durability standpoint.

Yes, we do love the titanium smily_headphones1.gif
I guess there is no way to make a lasting colored titanium lol.
Is there any sonic sound changes/improvements with the use of titanium shells in the rockets?
post #245 of 3374
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Originally Posted by Levanter View Post
 

I had the Jaybird JF3 a couple of years back... SQ is really good for a bluetooth IEM, however build quality is sub-par to average... 

 

Not the same model, though. I've used the BlueBuds X to the gym on a regular basis and it survived being drenched in sweat again and again. Its only weakness is the microphone+button attachment on the cable; I had twice a problem with it. But with the earpieces themselves? None. (Ah, but for the flaking chrome paint.)

post #246 of 3374
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Not the same model, though. I've used the BlueBuds X to the gym on a regular basis and it survived being drenched in sweat again and again. Its only weakness is the microphone+button attachment on the cable; I had twice a problem with it. But with the earpieces themselves? None. (Ah, but for the flaking chrome paint.)

 

Yep different model, but based on a number of reviews on the BlueBuds, they also had problems with the mic/controls section where they were rendered useless due to sweat/water. Maybe they have fixed that part by now.

 

For my JF3, my charging port at the earpiece itself recessed inside the socket till the point it couldn't charge any longer :mad: 

post #247 of 3374
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Originally Posted by Levanter View Post
 

Yep different model, but based on a number of reviews on the BlueBuds, they also had problems with the mic/controls section where they were rendered useless due to sweat/water. Maybe they have fixed that part by now.

 

The mic didn't work in the first BBX I got. I got a replacement. A few months later, one of the buttons stopped working. I'm waiting for the replacement.

 

Too bad they didn't use removable cables!

post #248 of 3374
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Originally Posted by Aurisonics View Post

it's a pretty tiny design currently and of course will be IP65 as well or I would not add it.

So let me ask you guys what do you think the waterproof add on mic with controls should cost. Keep in mind this is NOT made in china stuff these things will be durable since we will be making them.

I have no idea yet of the actual material and labor cost along with tooling so keep that in mind as well.

Realistically, as someone who likes a deal, and who doesn't,
$20 - no brainer
$25 - yea probably
$30 - if I feel I need it...
$40 - maybe/i dunno/probably not
$50 - I don't need it that much.

It's not IP65, but I'll be getting a replacement cable from UE with Apple certified (which is definitely extra cost) 3-button remote for $39.
It's a whole extra cable though for that price, you know.

Sony and Bose unfortunately have the brand name behind a push to a $30 - $50 premium, and the volume to take advantage of those margins. UE is offering up a whole cable.

$35, for me, might be the sweet spot for you that would have me buying without much second thought.

Are you thinking of going for different models, Apple and Android? For having it be 3-button I mean. Or can you build both into one?

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It's original, sure, but maybe not very practical.

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post #249 of 3374
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Originally Posted by vwinter View Post


Realistically, as someone who likes a deal, and who doesn't,
$20 - no brainer
$25 - yea probably
$30 - if I feel I need it...
$40 - maybe/i dunno/probably not
$50 - I don't need it that much.

It's not IP65, but I'll be getting a replacement cable from UE with Apple certified (which is definitely extra cost) 3-button remote for $39.
It's a whole extra cable though for that price, you know.

Sony and Bose unfortunately have the brand name behind a push to a $30 - $50 premium, and the volume to take advantage of those margins. UE is offering up a whole cable.

$35, for me, might be the sweet spot for you that would have me buying without much second thought.

Are you thinking of going for different models, Apple and Android? For having it be 3-button I mean. Or can you build both into one?
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Really hoping for both into one... if A-Jays can do it, i'm sure Aurisonics can as well? I wouldn't mind paying $30-40 for having both into one!

post #250 of 3374
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Originally Posted by Aurisonics View Post
 

 

it's a pretty tiny design currently and of course will be IP65 as well or I would not add it.

 

So let me ask you guys what do you think the waterproof add on mic with controls should cost. Keep in mind this is NOT made in china stuff these things will be durable since we will be making them.

 

I have no idea yet of the actual material and labor cost along with tooling so keep that in mind as well.

I would think $25 is probably the sweet spot for the market you are targeting.  $275 is far enough away from the $300 IEMs that while people will still look at them, it's not direct competition.  If you hit $300 MSRP then you've opened up to a huge amount of competition with the heavy hitters.  

 

I have no doubt that your offering will be higher quality than a lot of what's out there, but a lot of headphones with removable cables are on the order of $15 for an entire cable with mic and 1 button remote.  Those aren't waterproof, but they are kevlar cables. (Shure does charge $50 for their mic/remote replacement cable though).

post #251 of 3374
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Originally Posted by Levanter View Post

Really hoping for both into one... if A-Jays can do it, i'm sure Aurisonics can as well? I wouldn't mind paying $30-40 for having both into one!

It looks like the A-Jays have 3 separate models on their website. iOS, Android, Windows Phone...

The problem is that I would likely pay $35 for an Apple Certified one because I use a iPhone and I could use it to a full extent, but I wouldn't pay $35 for a 3-button remote/mic where only 1 button works with my iPhone. And vice versa if I was an android owner. Maybe others would, just for 1 button and a mic, but not me.

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^ yea, the $300 point is a mental roadblock also, not even thinking competition.
Edited by vwinter - 1/5/14 at 5:58am
post #252 of 3374
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Originally Posted by vwinter View Post


It looks like the A-Jays have 3 separate models on their website. iOS, Android, Windows Phone...

The problem is that I would likely pay $35 for an Apple Certified one because I use a iPhone and I could use it to a full extent, but I wouldn't pay $35 for a 3-button remote/mic where only 1 button works with my iPhone. And vice versa if I was an android owner. Maybe others would, just for 1 button and a mic, but not me.

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^ yea, the $300 point is a mental roadblock also, not even thinking competition.

 

ooh my bad, i thought i remembered last time they marketed A-Jays 5 as the first to support both Apple and Android controls in one... 

looks like having both in 1 is still technically not possible yet.. :(

post #253 of 3374
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Originally Posted by vwinter View Post


Realistically, as someone who likes a deal, and who doesn't,
$20 - no brainer
$25 - yea probably
$30 - if I feel I need it...
$40 - maybe/i dunno/probably not
$50 - I don't need it that much.

It's not IP65, but I'll be getting a replacement cable from UE with Apple certified (which is definitely extra cost) 3-button remote for $39.
It's a whole extra cable though for that price, you know.

Sony and Bose unfortunately have the brand name behind a push to a $30 - $50 premium, and the volume to take advantage of those margins. UE is offering up a whole cable.

$35, for me, might be the sweet spot for you that would have me buying without much second thought.

Are you thinking of going for different models, Apple and Android? For having it be 3-button I mean. Or can you build both into one?
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This pretty much mirrors my thoughts. For reference, the remote version of RHA's IEM's is an additional $10, I wouldn't mind the idea of paying a bit more if it's well designed but I think it would start to feel like a bit of a cash grab beyond the $25 mark.

post #254 of 3374
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Originally Posted by elnero View Post


This pretty much mirrors my thoughts. For reference, the remote version of RHA's IEM's is an additional $10, I wouldn't mind the idea of paying a bit more if it's well designed but I think it would start to feel like a bit of a cash grab beyond the $25 mark.

Yea, the RHA remote looks like a $10 remote though, which is fine if you're charging $10. And they may have already built that margin into the non-remote version.

That's another point actually. The build quality is worth extra money, but from a consumer standpoint, will it look and feel like it's worth the extra money? That' where the real perception of worth will come from, I feel.

Yea, $35 is likely my upper limit of probably buy. $25 would be a buy.
post #255 of 3374

The most important question no one is asking: Is it just a mic/remote or mic/remote/volume adjuster? 

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