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Thoughts on a bunch of DACs (and why delta-sigma kinda sucks, just to get you to think about stuff)
Jun 2, 2015 at 4:15 PM Post #5,611 of 6,500
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Jun 2, 2015 at 6:31 PM Post #5,613 of 6,500
hans030390 said:
The Model S is indeed an excellent TDA1541A-based DAC (I recently wrote a full review that's floating around elsewhere on the interwebs), but I only recommend it if you are specifically looking for a non-oversampling DAC. If you don't have experience with non-oversampling DACs, start with some cheap offerings to see if it's your thing or not. Most people are going to be best served by oversampling DACs, like the Yggy.
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I owned a Model S (mk I) for almost 3 years. It is indeed a very nice DAC, with a very deep soundstage unlike most other DACs. It is lively and exciting, however as I improved my main system and it marched towards transparency and truth (?) I found I preferred 2 of my other R2R DACs over it and sold it
 
Jun 2, 2015 at 7:33 PM Post #5,614 of 6,500
Thank you LingLing. Now we can confirm that Stereophile review is correct and the master DAC list on the web is wrong. (I think valistech.narod.ru and dutchaudioclassics.nl?)
 
Jun 3, 2015 at 1:44 AM Post #5,615 of 6,500
koolblue3 said:
I owned a Model S (mk I) for almost 3 years. It is indeed a very nice DAC, with a very deep soundstage unlike most other DACs. It is lively and exciting, however as I improved my main system and it marched towards transparency and truth (?) I found I preferred 2 of my other R2R DACs over it and sold it
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 Do tell???? 
 
Jun 3, 2015 at 2:38 PM Post #5,616 of 6,500
Has anyone ever seen or heard of this thing before?? This is a Krell Studio DAC that caught my attention. 2x PCM63-P and 2x Motorola DSP56001. Won't have the same algorithm but uses the same chips of the era in a dual mono configuration.
 


 
I took the pics off the web randomly but a listing caught my interest
 
Jun 3, 2015 at 2:47 PM Post #5,617 of 6,500
wahsmoh said:
  Has anyone ever seen or heard of this thing before?? This is a Krell Studio DAC that caught my attention. 2x PCM63-P and 2x Motorola DSP56001. Won't have the same algorithm but uses the same chips of the era in a dual mono configuration.
 


 
I took the pics off the web randomly but a listing caught my interest
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Hm, interesting looking. I'm interested to see what chips they used, especially since they are claiming 20-bits.
 
Jun 3, 2015 at 3:00 PM Post #5,618 of 6,500
prot said:
And btw, this being the R2R lalala thread, I wonder why isnt anyone talking about the (only?) portable r2r dac/headamp http://www.head-fi.org/products/myst-1866/reviews/11660
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The Altmann Tera-Player DAP used the TDA1543 DAC chip.
 
FU:  Charles Altmann's present DAP is called the Tera-Player Light.  Same NOS R2R Philips TDA1543 DAC chip, I'm pretty sure, knowing his preference for it and most likely stocked up inventory, but with an improved player algorithm for significantly more money ($3800).  Shoulda bought the first Tera-Player at ~$1K, looking back and knowing what I know now, but I choked on its relative sticker price for a DAP back then.
 
Jun 3, 2015 at 3:48 PM Post #5,619 of 6,500
jacal01 said:
The Altmann Tera-Player DAP used the TDA1543 DAC chip.

FU:  Charles Altmann's present DAP is called the Tera-Player Light.  Same NOS R2R Philips TDA1543 DAC chip, I'm pretty sure, knowing his preference for it and most likely stocked up inventory, but with an improved player algorithm for significantly more money.  Shoulda bought the first Tera-Player at ~$1K, looking back and knowing what I know now, but I choked on its relative sticker price for a DAP even then. 
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Good catch. That funny altmann guy also sells a few multibit DAC contraptions http://www.mother-of-tone.com/creation.htm ... you may be surprised by the price :)

Not sure what to say about the tera player. May sound really good but it's the most inconvenient DAP ever: no screen, no playlists, only plays wav, etc...
 
Jun 3, 2015 at 4:05 PM Post #5,621 of 6,500
prot said:
Good catch. That funny altmann guy also sells a few multibit DAC contraptions http://www.mother-of-tone.com/creation.htm ... you may be surprised by the price
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Not sure what to say about the tera player. May sound really good but it's the most inconvenient DAP ever: no screen, no playlists, only plays wav, etc...
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At his prices is that guy serious or a just a really good troll?? I can't imagine anyone would buy that and if they do they are funding his vacation package
 
Jun 3, 2015 at 6:28 PM Post #5,624 of 6,500


AFAIK, he's bloody serious. The only extra info I have is of the "heard from a friend who heard from a friend" type ... apparently the contraptions do indeed sound very good. Whether that's $7K good is anyone's guess. I'd be more inclined to give my cash to the kind of strange genius that the altmann guy seems to be, than to some 'highend' company .. but I think he's exaggerating quite a bit with those prices.
But apparently he has clients and you have to wait in line for many months to get one of his 'wonders' .. and he keeps raising those prices.
 
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