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post #331 of 857
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Originally Posted by GeneralPsycho View Post
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EDIT: I researched the DACs a little and which would you recommend? There seem to be different versions for Sabre DAC.


Sabre ESS9018 is the best chip, but can be tricky to implement. NFB-11.32 sounds really great:

http://www.audio-gd.com/Pro/Headphoneamp/NFB1132/NFB11.32EN.htm

 

ODAC with ESS9023 is the next best thing, especially coupled with the FIIO E12 amplifier.

Hifimediy Sabre DAC also has ESS9023, sounds amazing for 49$. There is also asynchronous version at 64$ shipped:

http://hifimediy.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=83

http://hifimediy.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=123

post #332 of 857

I sent you a PM. 

 

To others, I will be testing my headphones for longer time and see if anything changes

post #333 of 857
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Hello guys!
I just sold my HA-S500 because they were really uncomfortable ... I hurt my ears.
The sound was not bad but too unbalanced in low voices high and I did not like very much.
I now have ... CAL + FiiO E10 is a headphone less dynamic but much more detailed.
This 680 which has improvements compared to the 500? Recommended JVC 680 or CAL 2???
Sorry for my bad english ... I'm Italian
:bigsmile_face: 

 

Hmm... I'd say try both if you can then decide to avoid disappointment.

 

 

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There's a hype around these? Outside of this thread they never come up in a conversation, unless I or Lifted Andreas bring them up.

And S680 isn't bass-heavy - it's sub-bass-heavy. The boost doesn't bleed into the mids. If the mids are too warm for your taste - try using a Sabre-based DAC, such as Hifimediy or ODAC - the most popular Wolfson DAC (WM8740) is not a good match (although Lifted Andreas enjoys it on FIIO X3). I think that WM8740 on my E17 makes the voices sound less natural.

 

I find the X3 adds a certain level of brightness to select HPs/IEMs, and on others it adds bass... it really just depends on what the phones are supposed to sound like. The X3 is pretty good to adapting and compensating for various flaws in phones.

post #334 of 857

First round of impressions:

 

Good, not great.

 

Bass:

Love the sub bass. I'm a big Grado fan so getting a little action on the down low is certainly refreshing. And I quite enjoy how it doesn't destroy the lower mids. The texture, quality, and quantity are great IMO.

 

Mids: 

Well they're there.

 

Highs: 

Like I said I'm a Grado fan, so the JVC highs are lacking for me. I'm used to lots of energy and treble detail and these haven't achieved it yet (still burning in as per suggestion). I think that the highs are very non-fatiguing and extend well so far and I'm hoping that burn in will help with their energy.

 

Overall I like the sense of depth to the soundstage and separation is of headphones much more expensive. I have to say I don't really like the plasticky build (but what can I expect for the price?). The pads are like the Momentum pads: not big enough to be circumaural and not small enough to be comfortablly supraural. Haven't been able to wear em for longer than a half hour because of this. Oh well!

 

I've just passed the 48 hour mark, so hopefully the next 48 will have some improvements for me. I'm usually not a proponent of burn-in, but I guess the CNT is an exception as the 680s sound MUCH BETTER than they did out of the box.

post #335 of 857
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First round of impressions:

 

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Overall I like the sense of depth to the soundstage and separation is of headphones much more expensive. I have to say I don't really like the plasticky build (but what can I expect for the price?). The pads are like the Momentum pads: not big enough to be circumaural and not small enough to be comfortablly supraural. Haven't been able to wear em for longer than a half hour because of this. Oh well!

 

I've just passed the 48 hour mark, so hopefully the next 48 will have some improvements for me. I'm usually not a proponent of burn-in, but I guess the CNT is an exception as the 680s sound MUCH BETTER than they did out of the box.

You have passed the 48 hours diaphragm burn-in period, now it's time for your brain burn-in.

Your second round of impressions will be much better.

 

Are you listening through Dragonfly? I think it may be the best pairing from what you have

 

Why would smaller pads be more comfortable? These are on-ears for me, and I like that they press on a softer tissue, much more comfortable then HA-S400/500 or ES700.

post #336 of 857
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You have passed the 48 hours diaphragm burn-in period, now it's time for your brain burn-in.

Your second round of impressions will be much better.

 

Are you listening through Dragonfly? I think it may be the best pairing from what you have

 

Why would smaller pads be more comfortable? These are on-ears for me, and I like that they press on a softer tissue, much more comfortable then HA-S400/500 or ES700.

Hopefully so!

 

I've been alternating between the DF and my Colorfly C3. (DF just sold though so it's out the door tomorrow!)

 

I didn't mean to imply that I'd rather have smaller pads - I'd rather have bigger!

post #337 of 857
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Hopefully so!

 

I've been alternating between the DF and my Colorfly C3. (DF just sold though so it's out the door tomorrow!)

 

I didn't mean to imply that I'd rather have smaller pads - I'd rather have bigger!


Too bad about Dragonfly, S680 really shines with Sabre chips, especially in the mids (a lot) and in the highs(somewhat).


Edited by BenF - 1/20/14 at 9:24am
post #338 of 857
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Too bad about Dragonfly, S680 really shines with Sabre chips, especially in the mids (a lot) and in the highs(somewhat).

 

I wonder how much better Dragonfly is compared to lets say Sabrediy chip which is less than 3rd of the price.

 

Probably not a discussion for this thread though so I'll just leave it at that.

post #339 of 857
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I wonder how much better Dragonfly is compared to lets say Sabrediy chip which is less than 3rd of the price.

 

Probably not a discussion for this thread though so I'll just leave it at that.


ODAC costs the same as Dragonfly, may be 5-10% difference in SQ compared to Hifimediy.

post #340 of 857

Good news then!

 

I have the Hifimediy U2 Async on the way!

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My turn to review. :)

 

I bought two headphones from Ebay seller bear84speeed. With free shipping, I got them in two weeks. Great seller. Gave a Red pair to my friend as a Christmas gift, while I kept my Black pair.

 

Well, after hours and hours of tweaking with my EQ on the Asus Xonar DX sound card, I found the sweetspot! http://imgur.com/5jW4xGs

I use headphones all the time. I like concentrated sound towards my ears and privacy of good sound while not bothering others. My scope of usage is limited to my desktop, and to my phone when I am exercising.

 

I have bad hearing, thus I need to wear my in-channel hearing aids. Chemotherapy killed some of my ear nerves. It is necessary for me to have a good EQ in order to enjoy sound. I listen to my headphones without my hearing aids.

 

Due to my limited experience trying out different headphones, I will be comparing these with my Bose QC2 that are 8 years old(revision 2), and have tens of thousands of hours use under their belt. Original, very worn pads with faux leather material rubbed off. My S680's have about 100 hours of burn time and about 30 hours of listening time mostly through my phone.

 

I mostly listen to Hip-Hop/Rap, Trip-Hop/Downtempo, IDM, Electronic, Abstract Hip-Hop, Abstract Trip-Hop, and experimentals. Countries of origin for my music are Belarus, Russia, Ukraine, Germany, one from New Zealand, one from Australia, and one artist from Tajikistan. I do not enjoy other genres. I tried to listen to some U2 and these did a pretty good job!

 

Bass.

Bose QC2 do a pretty good reproduction down to about 40Hz, and below that they get really muddy. The S680 gets down to about 20Hz of solid bass. S680 has a much more airy feeling to them, like I am at the concert, while QC2 feel tight, and very boxed in, almost like in a very small padded room. The S680's do a much better job at picking out different elements of bass notes, while Bose clumps them together. The bass for S680's is pretty tight, but Bose is tighter. S680 definitely wins on clarity and definition.

 

Mid.

As shown above in my picture link, I had to turn down my mids. Same goes on my phone. To my ears, by default, the mids are too pronounced and they intrude into both ends of sound spectrum. Bose does an excellent job here, easily distinguishing individual elements. After tweaking my EQ, the S680's sound great. Again, more airy feeling than Bose. After tweaking, S680's win by a small margin. Both do a great job.

 

Treble.

As others have noticed before, the treble is subdued by default. In addition, my hearing has a really hard time with treble. I had to turn up the treble in order to pick out extra elements from my music. The Bose have an easier time reproducing treble, thus they were setup flat, with an extra amplification at 16,000Hz. By default, Bose wins, hands down, but after tweaking, they are on par.

 

Soundstage

There is no comparison. As mentioned previously, S680 have a very airy feeling compared to Bose. At first glance, I felt like things were echoing in the background, but later compared against my car sound system that 'echoes' were supposed to happen. A lot of my songs have significant ambiance included and S680's shine. S680 wins.

 

On some Russian Rap songs, the S680's have a little trouble reproducing the bass on my Xonar sound card. Due to BenF's recommendation of HiFimeDIY DAC, there is high likelihood that I will be buying one. This doesn't happen with my HTC Sensation with PowerAmp.

 

Build Quality.

The plastics used in S680 is excellent. It may be cheap, but I have a feeling that it won't shatter or bend. The adjustable band has an excellent feel. The ear pads are not as plush as Bose, and for my big ears, these headphones are on-ear. The material on ear pads and head rest is excellent quality. It took me a little while to adjust to them, as I am fan of around-ear solutions. These headphones weight almost the same as Bose. The cord is nice and thick. It is also much shorter than Bose, which I really like.

 

The plastic surround the ear cups is semi-gloss. You will see fingerprints if your hands are not washed and dried. So far, they haven't gotten any scratches.

 

These headphones have a pretty strong clamping force. Shaking your head exhibits very little amount of movement. Good clamping force allows me to hear the details better and it allows me to exercise without worrying that my headphones might fall off.

 

In games such as Team Fortress 2, Battlefield Bad Company 2, and Battlefield 4, they sound excellent. Explosions are felt, individual gun sounds are distinguishable, and footsteps are pretty easy to hear.

 

Conclusion.

These are great! Very happy with my 80 dollars!


Edited by GeneralPsycho - 1/20/14 at 10:17am
post #342 of 857
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Good news then!

 

I have the Hifimediy U2 Async on the way!


I have this one too, sounds fantastic with S680.

post #343 of 857
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My turn to review. :)

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Conclusion.

These are great! Very happy with my 80 dollars!

Another happy customer :beerchug: 

Who did you buy the second one for?


Edited by BenF - 1/20/14 at 10:31am
post #344 of 857
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Another happy customer :beerchug: 

Who did you buy the second one for?

My friend that listen to a lot of rock. It will replace his Skullcandy headphones. He was planning to buy Beats by Dr.Dre. I told him, don't destroy your manhood and gave him a gift for Christmas/Birthday. He really likes them!


Edited by GeneralPsycho - 1/20/14 at 10:37am
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I'm an owner of the s400, and very much impressed by the sound. I must admit this new model looks very promising, but I'm also looking at a different pair. Is there anyone that has listened to both these and the Onkyo es-fc300?
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