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olegausany · Mar 20, 2015 at 9:45 PM

You don't have to use the second one, it works without it

glorkaglickflic · Mar 21, 2015 at 4:54 AM

darinf said:
I think most people are not familiar with the differences between the 507 and 404. I have not heard the 404, but I have the 407's. I am not sure what difference there is between the 404 and 507's. I imagine that's also why you haven't gotten much of a response here. You might try asking in the Stax thread.

I appreciate your response, Darin. I apologize for not being more specific. The Stax Sigma 404 was a custom made Stax that was built to increase the out of head soundstage experience. The original Sigma was first produced in the 1970's and is currently not in production. I really like your system, and it makes my 507's really amazing. My question was really to ask if it was worth buying the Sigmas to use with your system. My 507's really have a great soundstage with your system, which would probably mean that purchasing the Sigmas would probably be unnecessary. I just wanted opinions about this.

valleynomad · Mar 28, 2015 at 5:15 AM

phoenixdogfan said:
........ if there were a way for a person to have his personal HRTF captured once in his hometown, at, say, an audiologist's office...

I don't see any audiologist's office in my hometown will be able to have such equipment in the foreseeable future :wink:

furthersky · Mar 29, 2015 at 3:53 PM

I have some issues with the audio cutting in and out every 1-2 seconds with the trial on my Surface Pro. It works fine on my desktop though.
Anyone have any ideas how to resolve this?

dmbr · Mar 29, 2015 at 5:16 PM

Maybe increase the buffer length in your audio player?

On an unrelated note, I've started to use OOYH with the FreeSurround component in 7.1, and wow...sound really seems to be hitting me from all directions, and I'm not even through with tweaking the FS settings. Really recommend trying OOYH in multichannel sound, and with FS for upmixing (beats the pants off of the Channel Mixer or Stereo to Quadrophonic components).

furthersky · Mar 29, 2015 at 6:17 PM

dmbr said:
Maybe increase the buffer length in your audio player?

Thanks. I tried increasing the buffer to 6000ms. That didn't work. It's not just my audio player (foobar2000) but also youtube and other video/audio that I play and I don't mean the audio lagging the video. The audio would stop every few seconds then play. OOYH rocks on my desktop but my main use will be on my Surface Pro and on the go. I just want to make sure it works before I make a purchase.

edwardsean · Mar 29, 2015 at 6:50 PM

dmbr said:
Maybe increase the buffer length in your audio player?

On an unrelated note, I've started to use OOYH with the FreeSurround component in 7.1, and wow...sound really seems to be hitting me from all directions, and I'm not even through with tweaking the FS settings. Really recommend trying OOYH in multichannel sound, and with FS for upmixing (beats the pants off of the Channel Mixer or Stereo to Quadrophonic components).

Hi. I'm on a Mac so I'm using JRiver and its native 7.1 upmixing function, but it has no advanced upmixing features. Could you let me know what FreeSurround component and audio host are you using?

dmbr · Mar 29, 2015 at 7:42 PM

I'm using Foobar. The FreeSurround component can be found on hydrogenaudio.

zzffnn · Mar 30, 2015 at 12:06 AM

Very cool software. Will buy it as soon as Android version comes out. Darin, please consider offering combo discount in the future - I may need Windows, Mac and Android versions.

bmichels · Apr 5, 2015 at 11:31 AM

Out of Your Head software ... when you do NOT want to use PC/Mac ??

after testing the OOYH demo, I know that... I want to use Darin Fong's software.

but... I want to move away from PC/MAC based music server to dedicated Audio music server (like aurender, Aries, Antipodes DX, ...) !

so.... is there a solution ? Has Darin Fong signed OEM agreement with such company to have them incorporating his technology in their Audio server/streamers ?

darinf · Apr 5, 2015 at 12:23 PM

bmichels said:
Out of Your Head software ... when you do NOT want to use PC/Mac ??

after testing the OOYH demo, I know that... I want to use Darin Fong's software.

but... I want to move away from PC/MAC based music server to dedicated Audio music server (like aurender, Aries, Antipodes DX, ...) !

so.... is there a solution ? Has Darin Fong signed OEM agreement with such company to have them incorporating his technology in their Audio server/streamers ?

As of now, I have not talked to any of the music sever companies about incorporating Out Of Your Head technology into their servers. Depending on the underlying platform they use, there is no reason why it can't be done.
I would definitely be open to licensing Out Of Your Head technology to the manufacturers, but I currently have not been approached by any of them and I do not know any of the people at the companies you mentioned.
Thanks for the suggestions though. I will look into contacting the manufacturers.

Currently to use Out Of Your Head, you would have to use a Windows or Mac based computer system that allows you access to the regular operating system and not a proprietary interface or proprietary operating system.

You could use a small laptop or Surface Pro type tablet to listen to Out Of Your Head with your headphones. You could stream content from a network music server to the laptop and then output Out Of Your Head to your headphones. I know this defeats the whole purpose of the dedicated music servers since you would not be using their DAC or high quality digital source, but a laptop solution would let you have a "mobile" setup anywhere in your home for Out Of Your Head/headphone listening. Even a laptop with a low cost USB DAC/amp can be an incredibly good playback system depending on the headphones you plan on using.

Again, I know it's not the same as having our technology embedded in the music server, but a laptop is really the only solution at this point.

Pazz · Apr 5, 2015 at 2:43 PM

darinf said:
As of now, I have not talked to any of the music sever companies about incorporating Out Of Your Head technology into their servers. Depending on the underlying platform they use, there is no reason why it can't be done.
I would definitely be open to licensing Out Of Your Head technology to the manufacturers, but I currently have not been approached by any of them and I do not know any of the people at the companies you mentioned.
Thanks for the suggestions though. I will look into contacting the manufacturers.

Currently to use Out Of Your Head, you would have to use a Windows or Mac based computer system that allows you access to the regular operating system and not a proprietary interface or proprietary operating system.

You could use a small laptop or Surface Pro type tablet to listen to Out Of Your Head with your headphones. You could stream content from a network music server to the laptop and then output Out Of Your Head to your headphones. I know this defeats the whole purpose of the dedicated music servers since you would not be using their DAC or high quality digital source, but a laptop solution would let you have a "mobile" setup anywhere in your home for Out Of Your Head/headphone listening. Even a laptop with a low cost USB DAC/amp can be an incredibly good playback system depending on the headphones you plan on using.

Again, I know it's not the same as having our technology embedded in the music server, but a laptop is really the only solution at this point.

That sounds good, hopefully you'll get someone on board in the future. I'd love to see a DAC with this type of DSP implemented in it. Actually, I wish someone just came out with a user-programmable-DSP DAC. Perhaps make it so that you can even load standard VST plugins into it. Maybe I'm just ignorant or something, but I feel like this would be a great idea.

bmichels · Apr 6, 2015 at 6:13 AM

Now that I know that I want to be able to use OOYH in my system, this changed my requirements for Music server: I need now a Music server... on which I can load windows software like "Out of your head".

--> what are the TOL dedicated music server/ripper (not a PC that need tweking, but a dedicated box)
on which you can load 3rd party Windows applications ?

Minimum requirement is a very user friendly UI, TIDAL or QOBUZ for high quality streaming, and no need for a NAS (but USB HD is OK)

Initially I was investigating Aurender, Aries, Antipodes DX, LUMIN... but I can't load on them software like "Out of your head"

I have this one in my radar : The CAT from Computer Audio Design. See a good HiFi+ review here

It is Windows based, uses JRiver, and includes inside SSD for storage, a ripper, and can act also as... a NAS if you want.

It's Windows is highly tweaked and stripped back, but...You can still load Windows' applications on it

Any other Windows Music server suggestions ?

bmichels · Apr 6, 2015 at 7:36 AM

double post...

VandyMan · Apr 6, 2015 at 9:08 AM

Now that we have scanners that can produce 3D models of your ear (for CIEMs), it would be amazing if they could be used to mathematically construct a correction curve for your ears.

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