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Thread Starter 

This is a thread to discuss Lightning cables available on the market.

 

I myself am interested in cables for use for portable DAC/Amp rigs like the Hifi-M8, Fostex hp_p1, Sony-PH1/2, Go-Dap, Verza, Cypher labs Theorum(has a different end) etc.

I myself use a Hifi-M8.

 

Discussion about build quality and different technical aspects and audio quality welcomed.

 

Pleas NOTE: Differing opinions may occur whether there are any differences in clarity or audio quality coming from various digital cables, I do not wish to turn this thread into a cables make a difference/make no difference war. Thank you.

 

And with that, onto the cables.

 

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First up the Venture Craft angled lightning to USB-A cable.

This is a simple design of a USB cable with the official Apple lightning to mini USB adapter shrunk wrapped on, a kludge to be sure but effective none the less.

 

 

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Venturecraft will also release an updated cleaner version as seen below later the year 2013.

(The final version will be shorter, the same length as the the 30 pin cable).

 

 

Next we have the V-Moda Tuono

 

A nice compact cable with a solid build.

 

 

I use the: 

-V-Moda Tuono for commuting as it has a nice deep low end and present forward vocals.

-Venturecraft for home and cafe listening as it has slightly better imaging and instrument separation/placement.

 

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Cables pictured with Centrance Hifi-M8 and ipod touch 5G.

 

 

 

 

regards

expat.

 

 

 

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Super small line by head-fier thegrobe

 


Edited by ExpatinJapan - 12/7/13 at 9:39pm
post #2 of 78

Thanks for starting this. :) I'm after Lighting to 3.5mm.

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Originally Posted by krismusic View Post
 

Thanks for starting this. :) I'm after Lighting to 3.5mm.

Lightning to 3.5mm are not yet available.

 

I did make one for myself, but as you can see, the lightning side is a similar size to the older 30 pin connectors.

 

 

 

I am also in the process of having some custom chrome plated aluminium lightning and USB angled connectors manufactured,

 

 


Edited by Toxic Cables - 10/27/13 at 4:22pm

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I was wondering whether I could cut the 30 pin of an Apple cabled adaptor and replace it with my own jack. Do you know if this would work and how I would discover which wires to connect?
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I was wondering whether I could cut the 30 pin of an Apple cabled adaptor and replace it with my own jack. Do you know if this would work and how I would discover which wires to connect?

Won't work.

http://www.toxic-cables.co.uk                  PREPARE TO BE INTOXICATED

 

 

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post #6 of 78
Wow. this is yet another product for Toxic? Salute.
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Won't work.
I guess that saves me from wasting time trying it! Out of interest why?
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Rather than starting another new thread, is it OK to talk about CCK (i.e. basically OTG for non-MFi USB DAC/amp) cables here?

Recently we're able to purchase Onkyo HF Player App for $9.99 while playing DSD / Hi-Rez audio with iOS 7.0.x devices should work just fine without paying for relatively expensive MFi DAC anymore. (Actually MFi ones might be limited to 96/24 at the moment with even very specific hardware such as HiFi-M8 having new firmware updates to be available soon.)

http://resonessencelabs.com/dsd-on-iphone-with-herus

http://www.digitalaudioreview.net/2013/10/onkyo-hf-player-resonessence-labs-herus-ios-dsd

http://www.head-fi.org/products/nuforce-icon-udac-3-high-resolution-usb-digital-audio-converter-dac-silver



The caveat is somewhat bulky connections because of the extra male+female USB type "A" connectors as shown here

LL

http://www.head-fi.org/t/682222/ios7-iphone-and-apple-cck/120#post_9869101

LL

http://www.head-fi.org/t/682222/ios7-iphone-and-apple-cck/180#post_9914155



Could anyone be the very first who's able to make a simple lightning + CCK cable? I already posted something about pin configurations before

http://www.head-fi.org/t/682222/ios7-iphone-and-apple-cck/105#post_9850779



Regarding cables for MFi hardware, here are some nice looking ones

http://gotham.taobao.com/search.htm?scid=717067906

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Labkable-iphone-5-i5ag-Helix-Rectangular-OCC-Copper-USB-jumper-Free-Shipping-/281143177950

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=18373046515

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=18878302431

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=18892833488

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=20111566544

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=20574767105

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=24833592281

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=25974488138

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=35234138516

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DIY connectors for right-angled cables

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=20193805682

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We've seen plenty of Lightning Cables from different companies so far. However, how do we actually know whether that error message will be displayed after new iOS updates are installed in the future or not?

This cable or accessory is not certified and may not work reliably with this iPhone.
post #9 of 78
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Thanks for starting this. :) I'm after Lighting to 3.5mm.

same here....any leads so far?

Thanks!

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Just saw this simple 10-cm cable for 199 RMB with right-angled connectors on both ends

 

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http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=18128997413

 

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=21789043749

 

There are even more choices from China so just listing some of them below

 

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=15183821502

 

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=16680293417

 

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=16942982351

 

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=17579718220

 

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=17698838565

 

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=17854973292

 

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=18797318586

 

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=19051326054

 

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=19091399338

 

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=21268715264

 

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=22441595162

 

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=23313560412

 

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=26577076341

 

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=27418884622

 

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=35015347342

 

Also saw expensive ones from AQ

 

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http://www.hifigear.co.uk/audioquest-cinnamon-usb-ipod-lightning.html

 

http://www.hifigear.co.uk/audioquest-carbon-usb-ipod-lightning.html

 

http://www.hifigear.co.uk/audioquest-diamond-usb-ipod-lightning.html

post #11 of 78

Just received  the Apple wired adaptor. Damn that is one messy solution! I have yet to hear it. Too tired tonight.

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post #13 of 78
Cross post from the HIFI-M8 review thread:

Any comments contrasting the Vmoda and the MonoPrice lightning cables? I see 1/4" length difference and $10 diference. Any hands on experience with either?
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@Expat, you had mentioned that the vmoda and venturecraft gave slightly different SQ. AFAIK, it would be a pure digital signal extracted from the iphone, so would it possible to be affected by the cable? Don't take me wrongly, am not a skeptic, and I do appreciate how cables affect audio signal transmission (I am from Belden after all haha), just curious on your statement
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Thread Starter 
Yeah, i understand theres meant to be no difference being 1 and 0s, but to my ears there is.
I had a bad venturecraft (they had about 20 pcs recalled) and so when i went to the shop i really wanted the vmoda to win, but the venturecraft kept coming out on top.
I bought them both for different purposes and further testing.

Tried em both again yesterday vmoda then then venturecraft, it was as if a veil lifted when i changed to the venturecraft.

Imho.
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