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Oppo PM-1: A New Planar Magnetic Headphone!
Oct 18, 2013 at 4:18 AM Post #331 of 2,563
Maybe the hearers of the LCD-X are still too mesmerised by them to post about the experience.
Or, it was a non-event.....
 
Oct 18, 2013 at 5:51 AM Post #332 of 2,563
defqon said:
 
greq said:
  Maybe kinda like a Yamaha YH-5M?
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I've been looking for one for so long for a reasonable price but have yet to find one. 
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It's not the 'reasonable price' that's the biggest problem, but the actual finding. 
It doesn't even seem to pop up at head-fi meets either for auditioning purposes or bragging rights.
 
Oct 18, 2013 at 6:23 AM Post #333 of 2,563
Oh gord, let it be 300.....my wallet is begging for relief.
And let this open Can sound like an open can...
:rolleyes:
 
Oct 18, 2013 at 7:09 AM Post #334 of 2,563
john57 said:
My understanding from a bit of research since I do not own these headphones.

In the LCD-2s, you have an array of 12 six per side magnets per driver, these placed on both sides of the membrane in a push-pull configuration


With the LCD-3 you have an array of 16 magnets, 8 per side, per driver as I understand this from a bit of research.


The area of the LCD-2 and the LCD-3 membrane is 6.17 square inches, which is about double the radiating area of a typical dynamic driver of 50mm diameter with 2.5mm maximum excursion available between the magnets.


You can still have some push and pull effect with magnets on one side but Magnepan used to call magnets on one side push like mine some time ago.


 
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Thanks for the research. That means this push pull is nothing 'special' anymore.
 
Oct 18, 2013 at 8:24 AM Post #335 of 2,563
The abyss is push only as I remember. As far as I know push-pull is superior to push in most instances when measuring distortion and so on..
 
Oct 18, 2013 at 9:22 AM Post #337 of 2,563
redbull said:
^ oh, surprisingly for the price, but they can argue they use more powerful magnet etc etc.
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No, their argument is not "stronger magnets". It is their claim that the sacrificed efficiency with single-sided magnets is dwarfed by the increased clarity due to backwaves reduction compared to having both sides lined with magnet assemblies.
 
Oct 18, 2013 at 10:40 AM Post #338 of 2,563
redbull said:
Thanks for the research. That means this push pull is nothing 'special' anymore.
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Not sure what you meant by  nothing "special" about push pull.
One of the reasons I ended up getting rid of my Magneplanars or maggies as I like to call them was compression at moderate to loud volume due to nonlinear nature of the magnet strength by distance. With magnets on one side the magnet forces on the diagram comes much weaker quickly with distance as the diagram pushes away.  This makes things like piano playing at fortissimo levels losing some of its sharpness at transit peaks.
I find that electrostatic forces like on my Stax headphone sounds a bit more linear. I noticed that my Fostex T50 the sounds tend to bounce around a bit at certain frequencies.
 
Oct 18, 2013 at 12:55 PM Post #339 of 2,563
blueangel2323 said:
  lol you guys should at least read the last several posts before posting 
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These headphones were secret. Jude said he hid them under the table when too many people stopped by, and they wouldn't let anyone else listen to them. So pretty models would not have been appropriate.
 
They're nowhere close to production. It sounds like they will be making some major tweaks to their sound signature.
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Pretty models are always appropriate. 
 
Oct 18, 2013 at 5:29 PM Post #340 of 2,563
I am a bit of an Oppo fan boy, having (all?) of their DVD players and many of their Blu Ray players. The 105 is just sublime. Oppo are mid range price, high end delivery. I wondered about a headphone after I saw their DAC / Amp prototype. I am another very interested in this. I expect serious permance for the money, just wish Henry was still here with us :frowning2:
 
Oct 18, 2013 at 5:58 PM Post #341 of 2,563
Give a shout out frank I he has an oppo player he might have some inside info.
 
Oct 18, 2013 at 8:08 PM Post #342 of 2,563
greq said:
  It's not the 'reasonable price' that's the biggest problem, but the actual finding. 
It doesn't even seem to pop up at head-fi meets either for auditioning purposes or bragging rights.
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Well they are rare to begin with, I've seen around 6 or so in the past 3 years pop up on various auction domains, but none for the price I'm willing to dive in and give it a try at, it's mostly for bragging rights though as the last person who sold theres here didn't think they were that good.
 
Oct 18, 2013 at 11:40 PM Post #343 of 2,563
john57 said:
Not sure what you meant by  nothing "special" about push pull.


One of the reasons I ended up getting rid of my Magneplanars or maggies as I like to call them was compression at moderate to loud volume due to nonlinear nature of the magnet strength by distance. With magnets on one side the magnet forces on the diagram comes much weaker quickly with distance as the diagram pushes away.  This makes things like piano playing at fortissimo levels losing some of its sharpness at transit peaks.


I find that electrostatic forces like on my Stax headphone sounds a bit more linear. I noticed that my Fostex T50 the sounds tend to bounce around a bit at certain frequencies.
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I meant nothing new anymore, but no doubt it still very good. No wonder Stax sounds very good.
 
Oct 19, 2013 at 3:09 PM Post #345 of 2,563
jiffy squid said:
  OPPO announced on their Facebook page that they now have a "Future Products" section of their website highlighting the headphones and amp / DAC.
 
Still no pricing information, but an interesting read nonetheless: http://www.oppodigital.com/future/
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My jaw dropped when I saw the pic on the landing page. That is dead sexy.

 
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