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AKG K812 Pro - Page 234

post #3496 of 4064

http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/headphone-measurements-explained-square-wave-response-page-2

 

From there you can discern that, 300hz Square Wave wise, HD800 falls in the "Bright but clean response" region while K812 falls into the "Bright and harsh" response.

 

HD800 measurements - http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/SennheiserHD800.pdf 

K812 measurements - http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/AKGK812SN001130.pdf

post #3497 of 4064
yeah that tells the story. i can understand folks liking the k812's sound signature more than the hd800 and vice versa but to say that the hd800 is technically inferior just ain't right.
post #3498 of 4064

Sorry if my original post was misleading.  I didn't mean to say that the HD800 is technically inferior to the K812 (especially if "technically inferior" is understood to mean "inferior with respect to the things measured at innerfidelity.com"),  I meant that, all things considered, the HD800 is inferior to the K812.  This is compatible with the claim that, in certain respects, the HD800 is superior to the HD800.  In particular, I grant that the K812 is harsher in the treble region.  I try to minimize this problem through the use of an equalizer, though I expect tubes would help as well.

post #3499 of 4064
Quote:Mikey 1964
 I've since decided to make my HD800, K812 and GS1000i permanent fixtures in my collection, they shall NOT be sold or traded.

Ditch the GS1000i and spring for the PS1000.

post #3500 of 4064
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Originally Posted by sonictransducer View Post

Sorry if my original post was misleading.  I didn't mean to say that the HD800 is technically inferior to the K812 (especially if "technically inferior" is understood to mean "inferior with respect to the things measured at innerfidelity.com"),  I meant that, all things considered, the HD800 is inferior to the K812.  This is compatible with the claim that, in certain respects, the HD800 is superior to the HD800.  In particular, I grant that the K812 is harsher in the treble region.  I try to minimize this problem through the use of an equalizer, though I expect tubes would help as well.

that looks like a convoluted way of saying that you like the k812 more than the hd800 wink.gif
post #3501 of 4064
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Originally Posted by sonictransducer View Post
 

Sorry if my original post was misleading.  I didn't mean to say that the HD800 is technically inferior to the K812 (especially if "technically inferior" is understood to mean "inferior with respect to the things measured at innerfidelity.com"),  I meant that, all things considered, the HD800 is inferior to the K812.  This is compatible with the claim that, in certain respects, the HD800 is superior to the HD800.  In particular, I grant that the K812 is harsher in the treble region.  I try to minimize this problem through the use of an equalizer, though I expect tubes would help as well.


In what way is the K812 superior? If it's bass quantity which is subjective, use an EQ. 

post #3502 of 4064
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Originally Posted by 62ohm View Post
 

 

I guess distortion is not a subject to be considered anymore then...


It is a subject. The K812 has more distortion than mid-fi headphones and the AKG K812 is a $1500 flagship headphone. 

 

I'll wait till AKG release an MK2 version. 

post #3503 of 4064
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Originally Posted by up late View Post



that looks like a convoluted way of saying that you like the k812 more than the hd800 wink.gif

Not quite. I could like A more than B without thinking that A is better than B, or vice versa.
post #3504 of 4064
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Originally Posted by ubs28 View Post


It is a subject. The K812 has more distortion than mid-fi headphones and the AKG K812 is a $1500 flagship headphone. 

I'll wait till AKG release an MK2 version. 

Have you given them a listen?
post #3505 of 4064
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Originally Posted by sonictransducer View Post

Not quite. I could like A more than B without thinking that A is better than B, or vice versa.

sure. but the point is that it's based entirely on your personal preference regardless of what the objective evidence indicates.
post #3506 of 4064
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Originally Posted by up late View Post

sure. but the point is that it's based entirely on your personal preference regardless of what the objective evidence indicates.

Do you think you can tell which of two headphones is better overall simply by looking at frequency response curves?
post #3507 of 4064
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Originally Posted by sonictransducer View Post


Have you given them a listen?


No. The only chance for me to audition the AKG K812 is simply to buy it and then refund it. If it was a headphone that I might have kept, I might have tried it. But I know there was no chance I would keep the AKG K812 regardless if I would like it's signature since it costs $1500 while it's not engineered like a $1500 headphone.  I think it's bad practise to do such things to shops. 


Edited by ubs28 - 3/14/15 at 3:29am
post #3508 of 4064
@sonictransducer - in answer to your question - nope, but i wasn't referring to the fr graphs anyways
Edited by up late - 3/14/15 at 3:33am
post #3509 of 4064
Do you think you can tell which of two headphones is better overall simply by looking at the charts on innerfidelity?
post #3510 of 4064
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Originally Posted by ubs28 View Post


No. The only chance for me to audition the AKG K812 is simply to buy it and then refund it. If it waquoteadphone that I might have kept, I might have tried it. But I know there was no chance I would keep the AKG K812 regardless if I would like it's signature since it costs $1500 while it's not engineered like a $1500 headphone.  I think it's bad practise to do such things to shops. 

You could try them out at a meet.
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