sorensiim said:

 

the good doctor Moulton soldiered on, while working secretly to assemble the crack team that would become Noble Audio.

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odanovich said:

Would anyone like to shed light on the complexity behind building a 10 speaker iem. From my understanding its incredibly hard to master that. I do believe the K10 nailed it - judging by the stellar reviews, but I have also heard good things about JH Audio and their Layla 12 speaker iem... is this marketing fluf or are 12 speakers better than 10?

For instance 4k tvs arent necessaily better than 1080p tvs depending on how big the TV size is...

Don't know how this exactly translates in the IEM world

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podster said:

 
Love the enhanced story behind these gentlemen, have had this picture in my wish folder for some time now

Love this design

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sorensiim said:

  Can't blame ya, the Logitech K350 is a great keyboard! 

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obsidyen said:

I only spend money to get musical enjoyment, and K10U gives me that. I'd never buy HD800, for instance, not my cup of tea.

Do you have the custom K10? K10U Aluminium is said to sound different by some people who heard both.

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fullcircle said:

The Kaiser 10 (aka K10)

The foundation of the K10 was built in the early days, back when I was in Thailand trying to build "FullCircle" the CIEM/IEM company. During those days I had created a product line, and as I mentioned before, we were ready for to launch, but some things occurred that prevented that from happening.  

Any how, as I mentioned before, I left for China and there we began using the designs I had prepared to launch FullCircle.   That being said, we didn't use all my designs, and nor did I submit all my designs to the project.  Luckily I never did submit the 10 driver design (K10).  There were several reasons for that, one simple one was, the K10 is difficult to build and hard to accommodate a lot of ears. (That being said, it is rare event, when we can not accommodate an ear)

Another reason I didn't submit my ten driver design was that it wasn't really finished, the foundation was there, but it needed some more refinement, before it could be launched commercially.

Another reason was, my crystal ball was indicating to me that I was going to be departing from the current situation in the near future.

   Not only were there internal issues that were pushing me toward a departure, but my wife was pregnant, asking a woman to give birth in a country where she can not communicate, is a big ask.   


So I kept the 10 driver design to myself, as I knew that it very well could be my winning move.







When it was determined that we were leaving, we held a dinner meeting at a local restaurant, and there we sat down and discussed the 10 driver design.  It was felt that we need to do something to pull the highs up more, and by the way....   this was a design that no one but I had heard before.   We were just considering the drivers involved, and the x - over.   We thought we should make some changes to the design and those changes were decided upon at that dinner table.   

We used a Samsung smart phone to do the math, the math seemed like it would work, and luckily it did!



I chose the name "Kaiser" as it is the German word for emperor.   With 22 consecutive 5 star reviews, I think it was named correctly.   I also liked the name Kaiser as Kaiser Soze had taken on a role of leadership and I thought some recognition of his efforts should be made.  Kaiser and dB, both fugitives, have been friends for probably 20 years, together they make a great team.  Kaiser, physically, is a large fellow, doesn't talk much, but when he does it is usually wise words he chooses.   dB on the other hand, he is more of a joker kind of guy....   any one willing to jump out of a perfectly good plane, has to have some humor.


Any how, that is pretty much the story of the K10, the foundation was laid probably 5 years before it was ever launched, and was refined over a dinner table, with a Samsung calculator and a group of friends

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deftone said:

slightly OT but im trying to figure out why metal sounds so good on BA iems.

the guitars have this raw energy and the lean nimble bass its addictive, its something i have never heard before from DD iems.

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dillan said:

I have compared the Zeus and K10 universals and MUCH preferred the K10's. I was really wow'd by the sound of the K10's and wasn't very impressed with the Zeus (and they have 14 drivers). I don't think amount of drivers = better sound and I also believe personally that adding more and more adds congested sound. I think around 10 is the sweet spot IMO.

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drsheep said:

Exactly, and even if they can re-create the 4th order cross over net correctly, it is impossible to balance the sound with only 14 BAs (you need 15 BAs for a 3 x 3 x 3 x 3 x 3), assuming everything work the same across all frequencies.

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fullcircle said:

There are different schools of thought about cross overs. Basically passive components (and that is what a x-over is comprised of) to a certian degree, produce artifact. With that in mind, I try not to have crossovers with a lot of components.

The idea that the drivers need to be equal (2 bass, 2 mid, 2 high) isnt necessarily accurate either, the mojo is realy about implementation / design.

I dont buy into the idea that more is better, i believe better is better, and im pleased when great sound can be achieved with less drivers. Do keep in mind, drivers function within a window of tollerance, trying to get a pocket full of drivers to behave in unison isnt easy.

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