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Noble Audio - the Wizard returns!
Oct 1, 2015 at 10:49 AM Post #15,166 of 36,065
Oct 1, 2015 at 10:55 AM Post #15,167 of 36,065
proedros said:
so here is my honest, unbiased opinion : i consider the noble products a tad hyped (i won't say overpriced as most TOTL iems are) , i consider the noble crowd sometimes verging on the 'fanboy sheep' mentality and i find ludicrous noble charging 1000$ for artwork.
however, kudos to dr moulton for being able to pull such a marketing trick and have people pay an extra 1000$ just for looks in a audio-based market , this is marketing genius at its best   
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If i remember correctly on the Sony Zx2 thread you have shortlisted Savant as one of the IEMS you are considering to buy.. Now why would you shortlist it if it was hyped . I assume you are reviewing it because of the sound signature. So as with any boutique shop the price includes R&D, innovation, manufacturing and thought process. Some bigger companies have the muscle to absorb these costs to provide cheaper devices others like apple for example keep charging crazy money for products and people still line up to buy. So as you said no one is forcing anybody to buy anything.  As to cost of art ... People pay millions for Picasso painting which i don't get , so how can you put a price on art .. You either buy it or don't .. This is my first order with Noble and i am yet to receive my K10 CIEM, so not a fan boy in sense.. but piling on Noble based on cost or art is not cool. If sound is an issue or quality is not upto snuff i would agree .. Just my 2 cents 
 
Oct 1, 2015 at 10:59 AM Post #15,168 of 36,065
Hey, if "hyped" means people talking about how much they authentically love a product then call me guilty! 
 
Oct 1, 2015 at 11:46 AM Post #15,172 of 36,065
scottfree said:
Personally I think Dr John is a plant and his wife is the real Wizard. Or that could be because I caught an episode of Remington Steele.
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LOL!

"Ignore that woman behind the curtain - I am the great and powerful wizard!"
 
Oct 1, 2015 at 1:46 PM Post #15,175 of 36,065
Anyway, here are some of my thoughts on the subject. Just my 2 cents, really.
 
1) I do not recall anyone from Noble ever providing any hints regarding the Savant's driver count. It has been a "secret" all this while, no?
 
2) The number of drivers in an IEM shouldn't matter, anyway. Tuning is a far more important factor.
 
3) The breakdown of a product's cost in terms of its material value is not a good determinant of a product's worth. There are a myriad products on the market whose cost value in terms of its component parts is but a fraction of its retail cost.
 
4) Although there are people who aren't fans of the Savant, there are also people who thoroughly enjoy them. These people probably think that the product is worth its sticker tag - value is after all, subjective?
 
5) I have friends with custom K10 units, and these IEMs have been nothing short of amazing, in both build quality and design. My own K10 is astounding, to say the least. Hence, while I believe there are people who have received less than stellar Noble products (in terms of build), my own personal experiences with Noble's IEMs have been extremely positive.
 
6) I have yet to hear an IEM that bests the K10 at subjective parameters that I consider paramount to the enjoyment of my music. The other Noble products that I have auditioned (3, 4, 6, 8) were also decent-to-good in overall quality.
 
7) We're all here to discuss Noble, and earphones in general, so let's try to keep it amicable, and civil, at the very least. Let's not turn this discussion into a flame war.
 
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Oct 1, 2015 at 2:16 PM Post #15,176 of 36,065
malevolent said:
  Anyway, here are some of my thoughts on the subject. Just my 2 cents, really.
 
1) I do not recall anyone from Noble ever providing any hints regarding the Savant's driver count. It has been a "secret" all this while, no?
 
2) The number of drivers in an IEM shouldn't matter, anyway. Tuning is a far more important factor.
 
3) The breakdown of a product's cost in terms of its material value is not a good determinant of a product's worth. There are a myriad products on the market whose cost value in terms of its component parts is but a fraction of its retail cost.
 
4) Although there are people who aren't fans of the Savant, there are also people who thoroughly enjoy them. These people probably think that the product is worth its sticker tag - value is after all, subjective?
 
5) I have friends with custom K10 units, and these IEMs have been nothing short of amazing, in both build quality and design. My own K10 is astounding, to say the least. Hence, while I believe there are people who have received less than stellar Noble products (in terms of build), my own personal experiences with Noble's IEMs have been extremely positive.
 
6) I have yet to hear an IEM that bests the K10 at subjective parameters that I consider paramount to the enjoyment of my music. The other Noble products that I have auditioned (3, 4, 6, 8) were also decent-to-good in overall quality.
 
7) We're all here to discuss Noble, and earphones in general, so let's try to keep it amicable, and civil, at the very least. Let's not turn this discussion into a flame war.
 
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Reminds me of a old classic. For me at least
 
 
 
Oct 1, 2015 at 2:29 PM Post #15,177 of 36,065
Brannan didnt take my K10's to CANJAM, so folks that asked me about them will have to do without a live viewing. 
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 I know its a ways off, but I do plan on being at the next CANJAM in my area, Mar of next year I believe. Of course I will have them with me there.
 
Oct 1, 2015 at 3:49 PM Post #15,178 of 36,065
Gotta stop taking vacations from this place. Was reading through and all of the sudden there's a picture of a savant broken open and I thought to myself, "this **** is about to get real."

Savant sounds great to me. I use it every day at work. I need to find some more comfortable tips, as the ones I'm currently using have grown uncomfortable, but I'm pleased with the sound.
 
Oct 1, 2015 at 4:02 PM Post #15,179 of 36,065
kalrykh said:
Gotta stop taking vacations from this place. Was reading through and all of the sudden there's a picture of a savant broken open and I thought to myself, "this **** is about to get real."

Savant sounds great to me. I use it every day at work. I need to find some more comfortable tips, as the ones I'm currently using have grown uncomfortable, but I'm pleased with the sound.
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