[mochill]

Penonaudio I wholeheartedly trust ...and on another note the havi is a power hungry beast

 

[bhazard]

Penonaudio I wholeheartedly trust ...and on another note the havi is a power hungry beast

Yes it is, and Penon Audio is awesome.
 
For ~$10, I'd love to see some store start selling these Holy Serpent H5's. Looks like a nice budget find.
http://detail.tmall.com/item.htm?id=37059907466&rn=c7ce2ab5e0a7905bb250b78cd4844217

 

[mochill]

They holy serpents will be ordered buy penonaudio

 

[analogsurviver]

Penonaudio I wholeheartedly trust ...and on another note the havi is a power hungry beast

I would like to cry out FOUL for the above post being the first ( I apologize if I missed another - if it exists in this thread ) to point out Havi B3 Pro (Old Version, with the red paper sticker dot on the transparent lid of the box ) to mention they are - power hungry. This is waaay understated - I never run across an IEM that needs so much juice to start to sing.
 
The minute I opened the box and put them in my ears I pressed the play button on the Korg MR 1000 recorder and the song was the last song from the "scouting acoustics" session for the renaissance programme of one of the very best male choirs on the planet. This is very quiet music, sung mostly very softly - hence the need for another acoustics we record more usual repertoire in.
 
Flying colours. Even the damn lamp pole OUTSIDE of church carying not only lamp but two not-so-small-transformers-making-big-hum- noise was clearly correctly slightly to the left and CLEARLY behind ( the correct location in real life ) was perfectly reproduced. When we will be recording for real, this hum will have to be *somehow* silenced - one way - or another. Simple method of "stoning the bulb" would just not work - transformers will still be there, as they obviously supply the current for all the lights surrounding the church.
 
Then came the icicle cold shower. Beethoven 5th symphony - recording from a few days back. On timpany, it was clear that my amp is clipping - and look at the volume control really alarmed me,as I NEVER had it that high before, with anything, but speccially not an IEM.
 
That is a bummer - meaning that truly portable use of Havi B3 Pro (Old Version) is no go. My amp can take power supply from 9V DC to 44V DC - and I will determine just how much is needed for Havi today - but anything more than a single 9V battery is ever more cumbersome and more transportable than truly portable.
 
The power hungryness of Havi is compounded by the need to boost the bass - it is not much required ( exact amount to be determined after at least say 10 hours of normal operation - but preferably after GOOD burn in ) - and that increases demands on the source/amp yet further.
 
So - those who are considering Havi B3 Pro (Old Version) - ask yourself if you do have equipment to support them properly. I can see some quite long faces otherwise ...
 
Agreed on Penon Audio aka bestbargainsonline @ ebay; very prompt communication, it took exactly 15 days, customs etc included, from the order to delivery via standard Hong Kong air mail post, not courier service. One can not ask for anything more; I warmly recommend them. They even went to the trouble of putting real stamps ( VERY nice looking stamps, certainly not common in my neck of woods...) instead of printed postage sticker on the nicely wrapped package - these guys take pride in their work, promoting Hong Kong in the process. It just does not get any better than this.

 

[quartertone]

I use the B3 straight out of my X3 on the high gain setting. They only need a couple more volume notches than other phones like that.

 

[Netforce]

I have to turn the volume on my dragonfly up to around the same level as my he400 to get them to a comfortable level for me. The he400 aren't super power hungry like other orthos but still kinda neat an iem needs this much power, a rather above average amount.

 

[cls]

Okay I pulled the plug...
since my TC20 OVC are gone (broke right of the Earbud shell and the cable wire came off)
ordered "Original Xiaomi Piston Earphone Updated Version Brown" on ibuygou this morning for €22,24 with insurance int. shipping
 
I orderd Havi B3 25th february they been dispatched right the next day, still waiting, but I am located in germany thou.. cost €44,35 inkl. shipping
 
 
now I have almost eveything I want, still unsure about 3-way hybrids.. I really want one but dont know which

 

[peter123]

I use the B3 straight out of my X3 on the high gain setting. They only need a couple more volume notches than other phones like that.

+1

 

[mochill]

With more power you get more better sound...and no the are not bass light but very great almost on par with my perfect iem the fx850....the only thing missing is the efficiency

 

[mochill]

With my Lumia 920 it needs 50% volume and also my hsa 3rd anv., didn't try the x3 yet

 

[peter123]

Even though the B3's are harder to drive than your average iem there's no problem with the X3. Just compared them with X3 and Magni and they both drive them equally good, just different characteristics. Actually they produce a bit more bass with the X3. I like them best with my LD I+ through, so smooth and sufficient bass. Bhazard seem to like them with his Aune T1 as well so those of you that have the possibility should try them with tubes

 

[mochill]

The sound is a reminiscent of the fostex te-05

 

[mochill]

If it had wooden housing then probably it will have the timbre of the fx850

 

[bhazard]

Even though the B3's are harder to drive than your average iem there's no problem with the X3. Just compared them with X3 and Magni and they both drive them equally good, just different characteristics. Actually they produce a bit more bass with the X3. I like them best with my LD I+ through, so smooth and sufficient bass. Bhazard seem to like them with his Aune T1 as well so those of you that have the possibility should try them with tubes

The Magni and T1 offer 1000mW of power on tap. Not too many portable setups will come close, but the X3 should drive it pretty well.
 
The most I ever put the volume dial on the T1 is 50%, so expect around 200-500mW to be optimal to drive the old B3. My Nexus 5 doesn't have enough power to drive them, but the iPhone can drive them somewhat acceptably.

 

[Grayson73]

  I would like to cry out FOUL for the above post being the first ( I apologize if I missed another - if it exists in this thread ) to point out Havi B3 Pro (Old Version, with the red paper sticker dot on the transparent lid of the box ) to mention they are - power hungry. This is waaay understated - I never run across an IEM that needs so much juice to start to sing.
 
The minute I opened the box and put them in my ears I pressed the play button on the Korg MR 1000 recorder and the song was the last song from the "scouting acoustics" session for the renaissance programme of one of the very best male choirs on the planet. This is very quiet music, sung mostly very softly - hence the need for another acoustics we record more usual repertoire in.
 
Flying colours. Even the damn lamp pole OUTSIDE of church carying not only lamp but two not-so-small-transformers-making-big-hum- noise was clearly correctly slightly to the left and CLEARLY behind ( the correct location in real life ) was perfectly reproduced. When we will be recording for real, this hum will have to be *somehow* silenced - one way - or another. Simple method of "stoning the bulb" would just not work - transformers will still be there, as they obviously supply the current for all the lights surrounding the church.
 
Then came the icicle cold shower. Beethoven 5th symphony - recording from a few days back. On timpany, it was clear that my amp is clipping - and look at the volume control really alarmed me,as I NEVER had it that high before, with anything, but speccially not an IEM.
 
That is a bummer - meaning that truly portable use of Havi B3 Pro (Old Version) is no go. My amp can take power supply from 9V DC to 44V DC - and I will determine just how much is needed for Havi today - but anything more than a single 9V battery is ever more cumbersome and more transportable than truly portable.
 
The power hungryness of Havi is compounded by the need to boost the bass - it is not much required ( exact amount to be determined after at least say 10 hours of normal operation - but preferably after GOOD burn in ) - and that increases demands on the source/amp yet further.
 
So - those who are considering Havi B3 Pro (Old Version) - ask yourself if you do have equipment to support them properly. I can see some quite long faces otherwise ...
 
Agreed on Penon Audio aka bestbargainsonline @ ebay; very prompt communication, it took exactly 15 days, customs etc included, from the order to delivery via standard Hong Kong air mail post, not courier service. One can not ask for anything more; I warmly recommend them. They even went to the trouble of putting real stamps ( VERY nice looking stamps, certainly not common in my neck of woods...) instead of printed postage sticker on the nicely wrapped package - these guys take pride in their work, promoting Hong Kong in the process. It just does not get any better than this.

 
Thanks for mentioning this!  For someone who listens straight out of laptop and phone, this is very helpful.  Right now, the most power hungry IEM I have is the KEF M200.