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post #16 of 186

Why does the device haven't a coaxial input, there is a lot of new DAPs like Ibasso dx50 & fiio x3 with coaxial output.

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post #17 of 186

David, same AKM DAC stage as in Solo -R and -dB?

 

If so, how does the Theorem built-in headphone amp compare to the Solo stacks you guys presumably have in the office? Cheers

post #18 of 186

Very nice looking unit with a great set of features.  Love the battery lifespan. The box size is still very manageable. I'm not inclined to a balanced potable setup but if it's only a question of recabling my phones then this makes it a possibility. I love my other Cypher labs products except for the wall warts. I'm peeved the 720 needs a wall wart to recharge and would have liked it to recharge via USB as well but I do really appreciate the thought they have put into the wall wart itself. It packs flat, it's (kinda) small and has a shiny red cable.

 

Sadly, I'm an IEM guy - as must be a huge segment of the possible market for this device - so the noise floor is a deal breaker to me.

The fact that it's not available in silver is just extra reason for me to stay aloof.

 

I really, really want one though. This is very close to the feature set I want in my portable idevice.

post #19 of 186
Large unit, not much to look at.
No iems? Bummer.
iDevice is great for portable, ultimate portable is iem for me.
Price: high.
Would love to get excited but it's just not happening.
post #20 of 186

Why do you never talk about VentureCraft products? They're available to the international market and offer similar features to the M8 and 720 as well as other unique functionality (such as the TT which is a portable DAC/Amp with tubes).

post #21 of 186
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Why do you never talk about VentureCraft products? They're available to the international market and offer similar features to the M8 and 720 as well as other unique functionality (such as the TT which is a portable DAC/Amp with tubes).

Well at least Jude mentioned the VERZA, and to be honest, I think the M8 and CLT720 are on a tier above VC/V-MODA, as least in terms of configurations, power, battery, and price.  VC is aimming for technical advancement like portable tubes with the TT, or master quality source of DSD and up conversion with the SounDroid Typhoon, vs. CEntrance and Cypher Labs on improving existing tech and SQ.  However, like a lot of other poeple have said before, if CEntrance can pull off 24/96 native res for their M8, which the T720 can only do 16/48, then it will change the game completely.

post #22 of 186
Jude,
Thanks for the review. At an earlier point in time, you had reviewed the Solo/SR 71B combo. How would you rare that combo against the Theorem ?
Thanks
post #23 of 186
I'm sorry. I meant rate that combo (in my earlier post)
post #24 of 186

Looks nice. It is a shame it does not do well with ultra high sensitivity iems, but it's crazy that something like this is even allowed to exist in terms of people are buying it and it's a product that is viable in the current market.  Pretty awesome.

post #25 of 186

Someone should give Cypherlabs a lesson in form factor. 

 

YAB.

post #26 of 186
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David, same AKM DAC stage as in Solo -R and -dB?

 

If so, how does the Theorem built-in headphone amp compare to the Solo stacks you guys presumably have in the office? Cheers

 

Emailed David instead. Below is an excerpt. Super quick replying btw :cool:

 

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The DAC section is basically the same as the Solo -dB, both will process 24/192 on computers and some android devices. Apple devices are more limited, but still very high quality with 24/96 on iPad2 and above, 16/48 on other Apple devices. You can also use a FLAC player app on the iOS devices (not Classic). I have a blog on this topic somewhere on the website.

 

The audio quality is in my opinion better than the Solo -dB + any other portable amp. Maybe I should make an analog amp to go with the Solo -dB. :-)

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I have more reviews in the works.

 

I have a lot of amps here and the goal was to be the best.

post #27 of 186

Subscribed. Another great product to look forward to.

post #28 of 186

I wonder, will that apple dock cable be compatible with Fiio E07K? (just wondering)

post #29 of 186

Darn, no coax = no use with JH3A = no bueno... Seems interesting though.

post #30 of 186
I am going to have to save up my money for this Dac Amp. Thanks Jude for reviewing it.
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