[lojay]

If you translate the title carefully, that T2 is listed as "junk" and therefore buyer has to repair it even (I.e. Not functioning properly). I believe the description (or Q&A to the seller) that Stax won't repair it either...so buyer has to find his own specialist to fix it.

The last -working- 2nd hand T2 went for ¥801,000 (Still a "reasonable" $6600...comparable to a new BHSe price).

http://page18.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/w113384723

Yes I was aware of that, hence I said "broken T2" in my post. If you read the post there is a link to a pdf document that says Stax no longer provides repairs to the T2. That was what the auction entry meant when it says even Stax will not repair it.

That previous second hand T2 seems like an excellent deal for such a legendary amp, but the lack of technical support and repair is worrying.

 

[wink]

Quotearadoxper

 So I'd say good luck finding a HV built for that price. More than that, good luck finding a HV builder in general.

There are a few KGSSHV & KGST in the for sale forums if you look carefully
 
Also Spritzer/Birgir has some for sale on his site. link below:-
 
http://mjolnir-audio.com/?page_id=14

 

[astrostar59]

I have seen some for sale periodically on the other site as well. I would recommend talking to Birgir at any rate, he often has pre-built amps he may sell on if you ask the right questions. I would love to build some KGSShv myself. I have build a few amp kits and DACs. But the casework would bug me, I would not enjoy that bit so much. Off the shelf cases look a bit naff. It would be great to have a lathe to make my own cases for sure.
 
If anyone is really serious, they could put up a post asking if anyone is selling. There are many folk on here with so much gear, you might get lucky.

 

[Axel]

Hey, an LCD3->Stax question:
 
Enjoying my lovely pair of LCD3s with my ifi amplifier, while reading the jaw-dropping reviews about the Stax SR-009, created an itch...
 
I can get a good deal on the SR-009 (close to japan price), and thought of combining the Woo audio WEE with a cheap (~$1000) s/h tube integrated amplifier (EL84 or similar).
Will I be able to get the same silky smooth sound from this combination compared to the LCD3s? Or am I better off upgrading my dedicated headphones amp for my LCD3s (with a Leben/Woo WA22/Woo WA6SE)?
 
Thanks!

 

[Axel]

 
I have heard the LCD-3 and SR-009 at their best, but I don't know how it sounds with the WEE + a cheap integrated amp.  I will say that at their best, the SR-009 does not have the same kind of relaxed, laid back feel that the LCD-3 has.  You're more likely to get this kind of sound with the Stax SR-007Mk1 paired with the right amplifier (on the HeadAmp BHSE the SR-007Mk1 sounds far more neutral than the LCD-3, just slightly laid back in certain treble regions at best but I'm going off memory).
 
Both the SR-007 and SR-009 sound much more natural to me than the LCD-3.  They're just so much more transparent, they really are unbelievable especially the SR-009.  Even though its sound signature isn't similar to the LCD-3's, I wouldn't be surprised if a well driven one blows your socks off. 

 
So, in fact, you're saying the SR-007 is more laid back and easy-on-the-ear than the SR-009?
If that's the case, maybe I should try going for the SR-007.
You're mentioning the SR-007Mk1, what about the current incarnation, the SR-007A - how different is it from the Mk1?
 
Thanks!

 

[Rhamnetin]

   
So, in fact, you're saying the SR-007 is more laid back and easy-on-the-ear than the SR-009?
If that's the case, maybe I should try going for the SR-007.
You're mentioning the SR-007Mk1, what about the current incarnation, the SR-007A - how different is it from the Mk1?
 
Thanks!

 
I do consider the SR-007Mk1 to be slightly laid back in the treble region compared to the SR-009. Not that I'd ever call the SR-009 hard on the ears and overly aggressive or forward, it strikes me as the perfect neutral middle ground.  There seem to be two newer versions of the SR-007, noted by Tyll.
 

SR-007A/SR-007Mk2 - S/N SZ2-xxxx, Stax change the earpads, how they sit and introduce a port to the earcups. Sound is a mixed bag depending on fit but can be fixed to sound pretty much like the Mk1.
 
SR-007A/SR-007Mk2 - S/N SZ3-xxxx, often called the Mk2.5, Stax supposedly change the diaphragm which results in a much more forward sound signature.

 
http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/comparing-world-class-headphones-stax-sr-007
 
I have yet to hear those two newer revisions, but the "Mk2.5" seems to be almost the opposite of what you want.  The Mk1 is the highest regarded version overall, I see a lot of people in agreement with the impressions listed here.
 
http://www.head-fi.org/t/634201/battle-of-the-flagships-58-headphones-compared-update-audeze-lcd-2-revision-2-6-4-13#user_SR007MKI
 
http://www.head-fi.org/t/634201/battle-of-the-flagships-58-headphones-compared-update-audeze-lcd-2-revision-2-6-4-13#user_SR007MKII

 

[Rico613]

  Hey, an LCD3->Stax question:
 
Enjoying my lovely pair of LCD3s with my ifi amplifier, while reading the jaw-dropping reviews about the Stax SR-009, created an itch...
 
I can get a good deal on the SR-009 (close to japan price), and thought of combining the Woo audio WEE with a cheap (~$1000) s/h tube integrated amplifier (EL84 or similar).
Will I be able to get the same silky smooth sound from this combination compared to the LCD3s? Or am I better off upgrading my dedicated headphones amp for my LCD3s (with a Leben/Woo WA22/Woo WA6SE)?
 
Thanks!

I'd put the money into the dynamic setup supporting the LCD-3.  (Silver dragon cable, new amp, DAC, power supply, etc.)   It's a fabulous headphone where as the SR009 is an excellent headphone if driven with the right high-end amp.  Even then I'm not sure electrostatics have the kind of dynamic response and musicality of a good tube amp with LCD-3's.  Suggest you find a way to listen to the STAX before taking the plunge.

 

[NoPants]

  Hey, an LCD3->Stax question:
 
Enjoying my lovely pair of LCD3s with my ifi amplifier, while reading the jaw-dropping reviews about the Stax SR-009, created an itch...
 
I can get a good deal on the SR-009 (close to japan price), and thought of combining the Woo audio WEE with a cheap (~$1000) s/h tube integrated amplifier (EL84 or similar).
Will I be able to get the same silky smooth sound from this combination compared to the LCD3s? Or am I better off upgrading my dedicated headphones amp for my LCD3s (with a Leben/Woo WA22/Woo WA6SE)?
 
Thanks!

 
For the price of the energizer and integrated amplifier you can just buy the 323s or the 727, I wouldn't recommend using dynamic amplification for this.

 

[Axel]

 
I'd put the money into the dynamic setup supporting the LCD-3.  (Silver dragon cable, new amp, DAC, power supply, etc.)   It's a fabulous headphone where as the SR009 is an excellent headphone if driven with the right high-end amp.  Even then I'm not sure electrostatics have the kind of dynamic response and musicality of a good tube amp with LCD-3's.  Suggest you find a way to listen to the STAX before taking the plunge.

Interesting.
It seems that most regard the SR-009 the current best in the world.
What do you think I'll miss with the SR-009? Musicality? Dynamic range?
 
Thanks!

 

[Axel]

   
For the price of the energizer and integrated amplifier you can just buy the 323s or the 727, I wouldn't recommend using dynamic amplification for this.

I've read that those will sound very lackluster compared to the WEE with a speakers amp.
Do you think the SR-009/007 with the 323/727 will beat my LCD3 setup? Is it a worthy investment?

 

[NoPants]

it's what you want, you're outlining spending a ton of money with which you could just buy a dedicated electrostatic amplifier. 323s is a good enough intro amp that drives all the models. The 009 will be easier to drive than the 007. 727 is a good step up that's around the price of the amount you specified for an integrated. There's not much of a discussion to be had, the dedicated amplifiers are just better
 
I've only used the LCD2 with a beta22 and krell ksa5, I wasn't impressed

 

[Moonhead]

Axel..

You May Want to listen to 007, they Should be somewhat similar to the LCD3.

009 dont Sound anything like LCD3, so you May not like Them that much.

I for one are letting My 009 go to purchase some 007.

 

[cucera]

Axel..

You May Want to listen to 007, they Should be somewhat similar to the LCD3.

009 dont Sound anything like LCD3, so you May not like Them that much.

I for one are letting My 009 go to purchase some 007.

Total agreement, the SR-009 is on the BHSE the King of classical and the SR-007 MK1 rules with Rock/pop.

 

[Earspeakers]

Total agreement, the SR-009 is on the BHSE the King of classical and the SR-007 MK1 rules with Rock/pop.

 


Well good, I have a BHSE on order and will get the 009's, and all I listen to is classical music.

 

[David1961]

Some of the best sounding songs I have in my collection are by German band Rammstien, and that's with my 009/ BHSE. I once had the SR-007mk1's but I now don't miss them one bit.