The Stax Thread III
Oct 1, 2016 at 4:44 PM Post #10,126 of 25,560
I used the stock tubes for a while at the very beginning but found the bass was a little bit light. I am currently using the Shuguang treasures. The DAC I'm using is a Yggdrasil. My Blue Hawaii also has a normal bias socket in it along with the pro bias.

 
thanks.  
 
- May be the Shuguang treasures helps to make sure the BHSE never sound bright ? 
 
Oct 1, 2016 at 4:51 PM Post #10,128 of 25,560
The BHSE is absolutely not bright with 009, yggy, and my British Mullard xf3 tubes - and that's with silver interconnects. In fact if anything it's a bit on the warm side, and some days I prefer the slightly more aggressive Holland xf5. I experienced that too back when I was using el34 on speakers - those Brit tubes are super warm, and sound great in a system that would otherwise be slightly bright.
 
Oct 1, 2016 at 4:51 PM Post #10,129 of 25,560
I used the stock tubes for a while at the very beginning but found the bass was a little bit light. I am currently using the Shuguang treasures. The DAC I'm using is a Yggdrasil. My Blue Hawaii also has a normal bias socket in it along with the pro bias.

Yggy + Shuguang treasure + Pro/NB sockets. You have good tastes 
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Oct 1, 2016 at 4:52 PM Post #10,130 of 25,560
I used the stock tubes for a while at the very beginning but found the bass was a little bit light. I am currently using the Shuguang treasures. The DAC I'm using is a Yggdrasil. My Blue Hawaii also has a normal bias socket in it along with the pro bias.


How you feeding the Yggy? It's USB input is not the best, but can sound very different on the other inputs I have read (folk who own it).
 
The BHSE has such transparency it comes at a price, as does the Carbon IMO with the 009s. But care in the other bits of the system (DAC, server, cables, USB gizmo's etc) and you can have a system IMO that is right up there. My latest 'gizmo' is drop USB and go Ethernet. No idea till next week if it is better, we shall see.....
 
BTW has anyone heard the HE-1 directly to the BHSE and 009s yet? I would love to know where they stand.
 
Oct 1, 2016 at 4:57 PM Post #10,131 of 25,560
I'm feeding it with the optical out of my oppo 103. I also occasionally hook up USB from my laptop but mostly the oppo.
 
Oct 1, 2016 at 4:58 PM Post #10,132 of 25,560
 
How you feeding the Yggy? It's USB input is not the best, but can sound very different on the other inputs I have read (folk who own it).
 
The BHSE has such transparency it comes at a price, as does the Carbon IMO with the 009s. But care in the other bits of the system (DAC, server, cables, USB gizmo's etc) and you can have a system IMO that is right up there. My latest 'gizmo' is drop USB and go Ethernet. No idea till next week if it is better, we shall see.....
 
BTW has anyone heard the HE-1 directly to the BHSE and 009s yet? I would love to know where they stand.

I used the Mjolnir KGST with the 009 via ethernet and found it very warm.
I'll hear how the BHSE sound via ethernet when I receive it.
 
Oct 1, 2016 at 5:12 PM Post #10,133 of 25,560
  I used the Mjolnir KGST with the 009 via ethernet and found it very warm.
I'll hear how the BHSE sound via ethernet when I receive it.


Interesting. How you doing that? Is it with your PS Audio gear?
 
My system will be silly, Rednet 3 (modern ethernet solution) with 80's tech tubed R-2R DAC. Mix and match, old and modern....
 
Oct 1, 2016 at 11:11 PM Post #10,135 of 25,560
 
Just to revisit this for a bit.  Another option is to buy used.  For example, a Lambda Nova Signature (LNS) with a used SRM-T1 should cost $1000 or less and sounds very, very good.  When the LNS originally came out, right after the original Omega, a Stereophile review said it sounded very close to the Omega, and the T1 has enough oomph to drive the LNS.  Do need to replace the electrolytic caps in the T1 as they are likely at the end of their working life.  I am working on a mod for the T1 which should make it capable of driving the 007 much better.

This is a very good point. If I lost everything tomorrow, and was given a very modest budget for a Stax headphone/amp setup (say $2K, which is modest for a Stax setup), then I'd be looking hard at the old Lambda models and a tube amp (Stax even) to pair with. I really enjoyed the Lambda Pro when I had it (borrowed Purk's), and I also liked aspects of the Lambda Signature -- though in the end it was too bright for me. I really like the Lambda presentation overall, love the new L700, and they definitely seem to "scale down" better than their Omega relatives. But I do tend to prefer the Lambdas with tubes (though the Lambda Pro did pretty great on a neutral-ish 500V KGSShv).
 
Oct 1, 2016 at 11:34 PM Post #10,136 of 25,560
I have the 404LE with the T1 and it sounds great. I have no knowledge about caps or tubes though. I bought the T1 on eBay and it seems to work fine. How would I know if the tubes are impacting the sound? Is there a particular sign to look out for?
 
Oct 2, 2016 at 12:43 AM Post #10,137 of 25,560
As long as you dont hear anything that disturb the sound, such as hum, noise, crackling or dead channel, you are fine. Some tubes can be weak, but still perform fine and when you buy from the honest person, he will tell you how much hours tubes had, so you can get the idea. On the other hand, you never know for sure, as tubes can give you the feeling of working forever or just dead on you within a month or even less. With Stax amps is very important that tubes are biased perfectly, because this can have influence on the rest of the amp, which can cause damage on some parts.
 
 
 
 
 
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I have the 404LE with the T1 and it sounds great. I have no knowledge about caps or tubes though. I bought the T1 on eBay and it seems to work fine. How would I know if the tubes are impacting the sound? Is there a particular sign to look out for?

 
Oct 2, 2016 at 12:58 AM Post #10,138 of 25,560
  BTW has anyone heard the HE-1 directly to the BHSE and 009s yet? I would love to know where they stand.

I have once auditioned HE-1 at Tokyo headphone festival.
Axel Grell of senn answered the question for Japanese audiophile magazine interview(i lost memory which magazine it was, too bad we can't google kindle/paper magazines..)
He said senn did tuned HE-1 like electrostatic version of HD650(not HD600 nor HD800) yes it sounds like that. he-1 sounds a tad veiled treble and non-organic unlike HD650. but it maybe due to old esoteric CDP.
I haven't heard internal DAC of HE-1 yet..
 
Oct 2, 2016 at 1:22 AM Post #10,139 of 25,560
  I have once auditioned HE-1 at Tokyo headphone festival.
Axel Grell of senn answered the question for Japanese audiophile magazine interview(i lost memory which magazine it was, too bad we can't google kindle/paper magazines..)
He said senn did tuned HE-1 like electrostatic version of HD650(not HD600 nor HD800) yes it sounds like that. he-1 sounds a tad veiled treble and non-organic.but it maybe due to old esoteric CDP.
I haven't heard internal DAC of HE-1 yet..

If they actually tuned the HE-1 to the HD650, then that's the best decision they could have made. HD600 is good, but the HD650 is better. And the HD800 sounds like an abomination to my ears (only sounds good on some very exotic amps). The old he90 is more akin to an electrostatic HD600, to my ears (and sounds amazing out of a DIY T2, but that amp is pure magic). I've always really enjoyed the HD650, but it doesn't satisfy on the all-out-assault-fi front. A "better HD650" would have a lot of value.
 
Oct 2, 2016 at 2:30 AM Post #10,140 of 25,560
  If they actually tuned the HE-1 to the HD650, then that's the best decision they could have made. HD600 is good, but the HD650 is better. And the HD800 sounds like an abomination to my ears (only sounds good on some very exotic amps). The old he90 is more akin to an electrostatic HD600, to my ears (and sounds amazing out of a DIY T2, but that amp is pure magic). I've always really enjoyed the HD650, but it doesn't satisfy on the all-out-assault-fi front. A "better HD650" would have a lot of value.


yeah I agree with you. I also like HD650. but a tad slightly I prefer HD600 and SR-L700 out of cheap stax tube amps.
 

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