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There's always a disparity of opinions when it comes to any major TOTL launch; it's pointless to fight over it. The Abyss even has its avid supporters (though they're sometimes too embarrassed to be forthright about it); the HD800 has vehement detractors. Even when it comes to the factual realm of what a headphone sounds like in the most objective terms possible, there's still room for wild varations.

 

There's no one thing to point to for an explanation of this, but we've covered almost all the contributing factors.

 

Variation in source and amp equipment can vastly effect our opinions of our newest purchases, especially if our equipment isn't electrically well-matched to what we've bought. Somebody driving their AD off a uDAC2/cMoyBB setup is going to have a vastly different experience from somebody with a Bitfrost Uber/Mjolnir combo or somebody who uses a WA7.

 

Somebody whose main cans are open will have completely a different soundstage experience from those who use closed cans almost exclusively.

 

Somebody with a lust for midrange will hear things differently from a basshead, since they're both being more critical about different sonic ranges.

 

And so on and so forth...

 

The "buy it yourself" argument is valid, but it doesn't take into account the fact that the majority of us can't just plop $700 plus shipping down on a whim and hope that we like what arrives. Regardless of Dan's great return policy, that's a lot of cash to have tied up at once. Meets are great, but they're noisy and you tend to only be allowed a cursory listen before passing it onto the next visitor.


Edited by ssrock64 - 10/17/13 at 7:14pm
post #3092 of 9033

Subjective sound is subjective.

 

I am currently debating whether or not to go through with the upgrade when it comes through given how much I like my mad dogs.

They will become my work/home cans, but the I will need a new pair for the commute as I think the cable is going to become an issue lengthwise then as a "portable" (I sit on a train for hours, not exactly walking teh streets.).

post #3093 of 9033
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^Also, doesn't the return policy snab %10 from your refund? Just saying.
Edited by UnityIsPower - 10/17/13 at 7:26pm
post #3094 of 9033
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Hey...easy. While the AD is clearly better, I love the hd650 for more than just relaxing music. :p

+1 

post #3095 of 9033
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^Also, doesn't the return policy snab %10 from your refund? Just saying.

I don't know about that; I haven't really paid that much attention because I know for a fact that I won't be returning mine when I finally get around to ordering them.

 

The cost is also a huge issue for those of us who are upgrading, since it's non-returnable in that case.

post #3096 of 9033

Wow!!! sound stage comparable to high quality open HPs huh.  Maybe, I should try the AD on different amps to make this happen.  Cuz at the CA meet, I surely didn't have this impression.  The sound stage was not comparable to my cheap Q701.  But then, what is the definition of sound stage again? :confused: 


Edited by koiloco - 10/17/13 at 7:48pm
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Wow!!! sound stage comparable to high quality open HPs huh.  Maybe, I should try the AD on different amps to make this happen.  Cuz at the CA meet, I surely didn't have this impression.  The sound stage was not even close to my cheap Q701.  But then, what is the definition of sound stage again? :confused:

This was my impression also, yes it was a good soundstage, but not an open headphone soundstage by any means.

post #3098 of 9033

To be honest, I am happy with the Mad Dog sound stage.

I bought a closed phone and I expected less than I got.

 

If the AlphaDog improves on the Mad Dog in almost every way... I am happy.

 

I surely wont be comparing it to HD800's because its horses for courses to me.

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Hey...easy. While the AD is clearly better, I love the hd650 for more than just relaxing music. :p

 

I like them too.... Just they can be boring with some genres...

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This was my impression also, yes it was a good soundstage, but not an open headphone soundstage by any means.

Hey wolfetan44, wup young man.  Good seeing u posting and sharing your impression about the AD.  I haven't seen BillP in here for a while.

He listened to the AD the most at the meet out of all of us.


Edited by koiloco - 10/17/13 at 7:58pm
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This was my impression also, yes it was a good soundstage, but not an open headphone soundstage by any means.

Hey wolfetan44, wup young man.  Good seeing u posting and sharing your impression about the AD.  I haven't seen BillP in here for a while.

He listened to the AD the most at the meet out of all us.

BillP is still around :D

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Wow!!! sound stage comparable to high quality open HPs huh.  Maybe, I should try the AD on different amps to make this happen.  Cuz at the CA meet, I surely didn't have this impression.  The sound stage was not comparable to my cheap Q701.  But then, what is the definition of sound stage again? :confused: 

I have the K 701s at hand so when the Tour Dog comes around I'll post some impressions. To me, the K 701's soundstage is very wide, but not very deep. I also have the SRS-2170, which has a more natural-sounding soundstage.

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Wow!!! sound stage comparable to high quality open HPs huh.  Maybe, I should try the AD on different amps to make this happen.  Cuz at the CA meet, I surely didn't have this impression.  The sound stage was not comparable to my cheap Q701.  But then, what is the definition of sound stage again? confused.gif  

This was mostly addressed by Jude when referencing a silent listening environment. Soundstage is probably not an attribute that could be deduced very well, if at all, in noisy room.
Edited by sonitus mirus - 10/17/13 at 8:51pm
post #3104 of 9033
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I have the K 701s at hand so when the Tour Dog comes around I'll post some impressions. To me, the K 701's soundstage is very wide, but not very deep. I also have the SRS-2170, which has a more natural-sounding soundstage.

Please do.  At the meet, it was noisy so please let us know your comparison.

post #3105 of 9033

Want AKG K701 comparisons? I picked one up today. Early impressions: The soundstage and air (similar to the HD600) absolutely destroys the Alpha Dogs. No contest in that regard.

 

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