Originally Posted by NinjaHamster
Thanks - it will be interesting to see how this develops ... as I said, both the OG and Bugle Boys are great tubes - you can't lose (especially for their prices). I suspect that the Bugle Boys may win on the 701's (they are generally warmer) ... but I still feel they may have a bit of a "peak" in the upper midrange - same as the 701's, they have a slight "edge" to them despite the warmth, in my system ... when you say Fragile - do you mean Nine Inch Nails ? I think the bugle boys are better with typical pop due to the added warmth ..; in my system (which is VERY warm already) the Orange Globes "reign" that in slightly - whilst still being warm.
Keep going ... this is really interesting for me too ... I might even hook up my 701's at some stage ... nah, who am I kidding, the LCD-2's (despite being WORSE than the 701's in some ways) are too much fun ...
Eagerly awaiting your next report as the tubes burn in etc and you get more "acclimatised" to each tube, and those smaller distinctions become more obvious ...
Yeah, for the price (USD$80/per pair) they're a good deal. Having read so much about them, it seemed wrong not to have at least one pair of Amperexes in the stable. With the Heteros I did notice that upper mid peak you mentioned, relative to the OGs. But I was using the HE-500 most of the afternoon/evening, and only used the Q701 for a few tracks. That's why I need to do a focused A/B/C between the three pairs of tubes and two cans.
Fragile as in Yes' 1971 classic. It's got a lot going on musically. I thought I was inside Steve Howe's guitar during "Mood For A Day." No, no magic mushrooms ingested ;-) That kind of experience can cement one's affection for a particular piece of gear, or a setup.
I hear you re: the 701s (of either variety, I gather). Excellent for some things. I was listening to an interesting thing my brother just recorded; it's like being outside on a warm summer evening; very atmospheric in that sense. The Qs picked out all the little details and gave it the space it needs. And Hugh Laurie's New Orleans style comes across very well on them, regardless of the tubes. But rock, be it NIN, proggy ol' Yes, or decades-spanning Rush are best left to the HE-500. Maybe because of the mods I did to HE-500, but the Heteros sound so great with them.
So you think the BBs are warmer than the OGs, so the OGs work better in your warm system? Sorry if I misinterpreted.
Glad you're interested. I'll try to do the comparisons justice. Don't sell your 701s short. Find some music that they do well, then compare them to the LCDs. I almost got them over the HE-500, but I got a great deal on the HFMs. The difference in price equaled a custom cable and some nice tubes :-)
In the end, I think I'll need a chart to keep track of the various synergies between music, cans and tubes
See, I'm trying to keep this hobby fun!