hifi nub said:

  My left tube turned off on the lyr2 maybe this is the results of me applying deoxit wrong a while back.
 
I noticed my left speaker was not on, looked down at the tubes and seen the left side tube was not glowing. Turned the lyr2 off then back on, the left tube works now so far.
 
weird.

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That is weird.  Temporary short?  How did you apply the DeoxIT (and which type: the "red" or the Gold?) that makes you think you may have done it wrong?
 
The only tube I had die on me just gave up the ghost less then four hours after rolling it.  The getter (flashing) turned white and almost faded completely, which indicates a loss of the vacuum seal, IIRC.  Obviously your tube is experiencing something different.  But Bob's right.  Without testing it in a tube tester, it's next to impossible to know.  At least it's still working, and hopefully you've got other tubes to roll.
 
Good luck!

sfo1972 said:

+1 Totally agree rb2013. I did finally buy an LP player after several weeks of research and debates. I will PM you the details of the rig.
 
I suggest two things for finding Vinyl: Amazon Vinyl Shop or eBay Vinyl Lots with a decent rating system to know the quality of what you will get.  IMHO I have been really pleased with the sound quality of Vinyl. Its no DAC/FLAC quality, nonetheless, its warm and dynamic.
 
Most of my listening for the HGs has been with LPs recently and I couldn't be happier.
 
Cheers

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You could also check http://www.discogs.com/ for rare, OOP stuff.  Just search on the album in which you're interested, and any For Sale items will be listed (usually on the right side).

hifi nub said:

  My left tube turned off on the lyr2 maybe this is the results of me applying deoxit wrong a while back.
 
I noticed my left speaker was not on, looked down at the tubes and seen the left side tube was not glowing. Turned the lyr2 off then back on, the left tube works now so far.
 
weird.

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Forgot to ask - are you using risers?  I have one that's giving me a little issue occasionally.  Just like you on only one channel.  Now, I do an insane amount of rolling and have just worn the poor fellow out.  I have an order for the new ones - but they are out of stock right now.

thurstonx said:

   
You could also check http://www.discogs.com/ for rare, OOP stuff.  Just search on the album in which you're interested, and any For Sale items will be listed (usually on the right side).

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Did you buy from these guys before? Have you tried the service? And if yes, was it good with no issues? 
 
They have quite a collection - thanks for the rec my man.

rb2013 said:

 
Forgot to ask - are you using risers?  I have one that's giving me a little issue occasionally.  Just like you on only one channel.  Now, I do an insane amount of rolling and have just worn the poor fellow out.  I have an order for the new ones - but they are out of stock right now.

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I do use risers on it.

sfo1972 said:

  Did you buy from these guys before? Have you tried the service? And if yes, was it good with no issues? 
 
They have quite a collection - thanks for the rec my man.

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I think they are just facilitators, like Head-Fi with the For Sale forums.  I bought a couple OOP CDs from someone who listed them there.

lekoross said:

Would anyone know the difference between the Siemens early 1960's e88cc grey shield (non-CCa) and the same in the CCa version? The HK rolloff mentions the e88cc CCa but makes no mention of the e88cc non-CCa (even though they also have grey shields). Do you think the sound quality would be similar? Anyone have both or have heard both and can provide some insight?

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Early 60s E88CCs are stunning tubes when NOS (think 1962 era). I think they are similar sound but not quite the same but so close I am not not worried. Later tubes the differences are more  but I cannot say I prefer one over the other but Siemens are alway good tubes, a lovely alternative to the great British Mulards as they have different sound characteristics.

rb2013 said:

   
 
The one Siemens CCa I have not owned or heard are the horseshoe getter '50s version.  I'm on the hunt for those.
 

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You and me both. I'd buy a Leer again just to use 'em.

I know the 6H23N-EV Reflektor isn't that great compared to Rockets but uhm.... (Thank you @NightFlight for selling cryogen treated versions!). 

HOLY SCHIIT THEY'RE AWESOME! The jump from 6N1P is quite a big one from me. I'm using Q701's and I strongly refuse to convert to other headphones (other than HD800's) because I love how the headphones scale up to better equipment each time.

6H23N-EV Cryosets have creamy smooth mids at higher volumes. For my Magic Eye Tube to start dancing, the volume knob needs to be at 12 o'clock, with the 6N1P this was impossible because the grainy treble peak simply bit into my eardrums. Now I can turn the volume to 3 o'clock with no problems and the Q701's no longer exhibit any distortions!

Soundstage improved a lot! There's actually center imaging! There's also a solid 3D soundstage in which panning is so much more natural. The airiness isn't that present anymore because of the bass increase and smoother highs.

The Dared MP5 is a noisy amp, so I replaced the stock cables for the Q701's and now: new tubes which eliminated most of the noise. I think the only thing I can upgrade now in my audio are tubes, but what the heck; I assume these Cryo'd EV's will last me a long time.

@NightFlight said there's only less than 30 hours of burn in with these tubes, but it's too late; I'm already in love with the new tubes.

nec3 said:

  I know the 6H23N-EV Reflektor isn't that great compared to Rockets but uhm.... (Thank you @NightFlight for selling cryogen treated versions!). 

HOLY SCHIIT THEY'RE AWESOME! The jump from 6N1P is quite a big one from me. I'm using Q701's and I strongly refuse to convert to other headphones (other than HD800's) because I love how the headphones scale up to better equipment each time.

6H23N-EV Cryosets have creamy smooth mids at higher volumes. For my Magic Eye to start dancing, the volume knob needs to be at 12 o'clock, with the 6N1P this was impossible because the grainy treble peak simply bit into my eardrums. Now I can turn the volume to 3 o'clock with no problems and the Q701's no longer exhibit any distortions!

Soundstage improved a lot! There's actually center imaging! There's also a solid 3D soundstage in which panning is so much more natural. The airiness isn't that present anymore because of the bass increase and smoother highs.

The Dared MP5 is a noisy amp, and replaced the stock cables for the Q701's and now: new tubes. I think the only thing I can upgrade now in my audio are tubes, but what the heck; I assume these Cryo'd EV's will last me a long time.

@NightFlight said there's only less than 30 hours of burn in with these tubes, but it's too late; I'm already in love with the new tubes.

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Welcome to the Rocket Club! 
 
Sounds like the 6N23P-EV's are a great match for the 701's (had a pair long ago - my first nice headphones) and to your tastes.  
 
Cheers!
 

nightflight said:

   
You and me both. I'd buy a Leer again just to use 'em.

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Some where out there is a pair with my name on them.
 
The Tele CCa's are another I have not heard - but after reading the HK tube shootout - I think the Ulm Tele E188CC's will fill that blank spot.  They rated them over the CCa's.
 
Speaking of German tubes - the '60s Tele E88CC to my ears has more tonal richness then the equiv Siemens E88CC.  Maybe not that last bit of stratospheric air - but more lush in the middle.  And since I'm a 'tone guy' I find the 60's Tele Ulm E88CC's pretty awesome.  Another German with a rich mid-range tone are the Lorenz Stuttgart's.  So I'm super excited to hear these Tele E188CC's.
 
To me the magic of the early 60's Siemens gray shield CCa's is they have the air and a really seductive tonality.  I have heard this horseshoe getter version's tonal richness exceeds the 'O' Getter.

rb2013 said:

 
Welcome to the Rocket Club! 
 
Sounds like the 6N23P-EV's are a great match for the 701's (had a pair long ago - my first nice headphones) and to your tastes.  
 
Cheers!

 

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They're not the rockets though, thanks for the invite though 
Nevertheless, I still enjoy my tubes very much. I don't intend to get tubes any warmer/smoother or I might as well just get Sennheisers...

thurstonx said:

   
That is weird.  Temporary short?  How did you apply the DeoxIT (and which type: the "red" or the Gold?) that makes you think you may have done it wrong?
 
The only tube I had die on me just gave up the ghost less then four hours after rolling it.  The getter (flashing) turned white and almost faded completely, which indicates a loss of the vacuum seal, IIRC.  Obviously your tube is experiencing something different.  But Bob's right.  Without testing it in a tube tester, it's next to impossible to know.  At least it's still working, and hopefully you've got other tubes to roll.
 
Good luck!

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I have no idea if it has a short but it scared the crap out of me. I applied the deoxit as a lubricant not cleaning it off and just plugging them in. The deoxit I used was gold. My tube doesn't look anything like that, it still looks brand new. I will keep an eye on it. Yea I got the default set that came with the lyr2 and plus I am waiting on building up some money for HG's.

rb2013 said:

 
I've been digging the Black Keys  'Turn Blue' and 'El Camino' - Arctic Monkey's 'AM' and 'Suck It And See'.  Digitalized 32/176 vinyl - with the HG '75s Superb.
 
On a side note have made some nice improvements to my music server - see my other thread for details.
http://www.head-fi.org/t/754654/new-pc-music-server-build-project-all-ssd-no-fans/90

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+1 on the AM album rb2013! Listening to the album right now as I crank some work in the home office. I see why you like the band, it really shows off the power of the HGs! 

nec3 said:

  They're not the rockets though, thanks for the invite though 

Nevertheless, I still enjoy my tubes very much. I don't intend to get tubes any warmer/smoother or I might as well just get Sennheisers...

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Yes of course they are Reflektors not Voskhods - but still 6n23p's and were used in the Russian rocket program.  You should here the '75 Reflektors with silver shields and single wire getter posts - they're my 'Holy Grail' or HG tube - in the Lyr - in my DAC - in my two amps.
 
I have Senn HD800's (after giving away my 701's) - you should give them a try sometimes.  I love them.