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This may help.
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Originally Posted by pietcux View Post


The U7 has a line out. With an adapter RCA to 3.5 mm you can connect any amp. But you do not output Dolby effects this way. It is only Stereo.

Exactly, but I want to output Dolby from the Xonar into the E09K, and from there into my headphones.

That's why I was thinking of plugging a 3.5mm jack into the Xonar headphone-out on the front. That cable would then connect to the back of the E09K, presumably by having RCA on the other end. And that's where my question is, would that transmit the Dolby effects through to the headphones? It seems logical that it would work, but I'm very inexperienced when it comes to setting all this up, having never owned a proper sound card or headphone amp before.

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Ok, How do you open this page in the Xonar settings. I've messed with it like 20 times, and can not get this window to open up.
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Originally Posted by Freddy1765 View Post

Exactly, but I want to output Dolby from the Xonar into the E09K, and from there into my headphones.
That's why I was thinking of plugging a 3.5mm jack into the Xonar headphone-out on the front. That cable would then connect to the back of the E09K, presumably by having RCA on the other end. And that's where my question is, would that transmit the Dolby effects through to the headphones? It seems logical that it would work, but I'm very inexperienced when it comes to setting all this up, having never owned a proper sound card or headphone amp before.
Yes that works. All output to the headphone out will give you all effects on the Fiio amp that way.
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Excellent! Thank you very much. I just picked up the sound card, gonna plug it in and play around with it. Too bad I still only have my crappy Fatal1ty headset.

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Ok, How do you open this page in the Xonar settings. I've messed with it like 20 times, and can not get this window to open up.
I had that problem too when I used the driver from the supplied cd under W7/64. Please go to the Asus site and download the lates driver. Then you can open it from the Xonar panel. Right click on headphone and select the lowest menue point.
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Xonar>Whiplash interconnect >Duet Amp.
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Hello people, i'm new to head-fi and i've been following this thread for a time now, but i still can't make up my mind about what audio solution should i get. So, I wondered if anyone could give me a hint or another about this product, and if it is the right choice for my future setup: What i'll be getting is:

-> Audio Technica ATH-M50X (for music listening, i need a good analog output, which my motherboard doesn't have. My mobo is a MSI Z77A-G45 Gaming, and i don't feel like the audio quality of it's built in solution is any good. It has a lot of static and poor range, so a dedicated audio solution is a must)

-> Astro A50 - For gaming ( These are actually connected through my SPDIF output on the MOBO, and they do provide a great sound thanks to the astro mixamp, but I still can't run it's Dolby Surround properly because the optical output on my PC is not 5.1 Dolby Digital capable )

-> Logitech z506 - Plan on using them with the analog ports, but still, if i get them with the integrated board, i'll likely be getting poor audio with static.

 

With these in mind, what would deliver a better audio quality and features, for gaming and music, under 100$ that is my budget: The Xonar U7 or a PCI sound card such as the Creative SB Z, or are there any other suggestions?

- The fact that i could quickly switch the audio output on the Xonar u7 makes me lean towards it, but i would give it up if i could get better audio quality for the same price with another solution.

Thanks in advance.

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Originally Posted by vilela69 View Post

Hello people, i'm new to head-fi and i've been following this thread for a time now, but i still can't make up my mind about what audio solution should i get. So, I wondered if anyone could give me a hint or another about this product, and if it is the right choice for my future setup: What i'll be getting is:
-> Audio Technica ATH-M50X (for music listening, i need a good analog output, which my motherboard doesn't have. My mobo is a MSI Z77A-G45 Gaming, and i don't feel like the audio quality of it's built in solution is any good. It has a lot of static and poor range, so a dedicated audio solution is a must)
-> Astro A50 - For gaming ( These are actually connected through my SPDIF output on the MOBO, and they do provide a great sound thanks to the astro mixamp, but I still can't run it's Dolby Surround properly because the optical output on my PC is not 5.1 Dolby Digital capable )
-> Logitech z506 - Plan on using them with the analog ports, but still, if i get them with the integrated board, i'll likely be getting poor audio with static.

With these in mind, what would deliver a better audio quality and features, for gaming and music, under 100$ that is my budget: The Xonar U7 or a PCI sound card such as the Creative SB Z, or are there any other suggestions?
- The fact that i could quickly switch the audio output on the Xonar u7 makes me lean towards it, but i would give it up if i could get better audio quality for the same price with another solution.
Thanks in advance.
U may want to pose this question over in Mad Lusts envy gaming forum. There's a lot of guys there using set ups like that.I personally use. A laptop for gaming, so I don't have a lot of choices for gaming Dacs.
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Hey all,

 

Newbie to Head-Fi here, hoping to get some help regarding the U7 and whether my setup could benefit from it!

I'm using a pair of AD900X's + ModMic 4.0 at the moment, connected to my PC using my old SteelSeries USB Soundcard

 

I haven't got a dedicated soundcard (unless the SteelSeries thing counts?), and my mobo is the GA-H87M-D3H.

 

1.) Would it make more sense to get a dedicated Soundcard to stick in my case (like Xonar DG), or would this USB alternative, the U7, be fairly equivalent?

2.) Would the U7 help with the quality of my mic? I've been told my old Siberia's mic had better quality, but it might just be an error with my setup.

 

From what I can gather, DACs seem to really enhance audio quality, but I was looking for something that could possibly improve my mic as well.

 

Also this isn't really to do with the card itself, but would using a USB soundcard through a USB port from my monitor be 'worse' (quality/latency) than from a USB port on the back of my case? (always wondered but was never really sure.)

 

Thanks in advance!


Edited by bryes - 7/7/14 at 8:28am
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I've been trying to contact ASUS support with the issue of the driver reporting the headphones are stereo, not 7.1. They posted back, said they will forward it to their driver team. Been 22 days. -_-. If more people can send a message to ASUS here https://vip.asus.com/VIP2/Services/QuestionForm/TechQuery to help them take the issue seriously.

 

Basic issue is that the driver isn't allowing us to configure the device (the Configure button is greyed out on the audio control panel for windows), and it set to a default of stereo. This means that applications (players, games) get a report that the device is stereo, and only sends stereo out. Dolby has confirmed DHTv4's Surround Virtualiser is the same algorithm/functionality as Dolby Headphone, it's just that Dolby is only getting stereo from our apps thanks to the driver. ASUS needs to allow us to configure the device to 7.1, and ensure that DHTv4 converts it using a HRTF to stereo via Surround Virtualiser.

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Will do..
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I have said it before and I am saying it now:

 

Newer surround algorithms don't need 8/6 input channels in order to create surround sound that can be heard through headphones...

 

Think about it:

 

A game outputting 7.1 channels or 2 channels is actually outputting the same information in both cases...newer algorithms do not need 8/6 inputs, they can create the same surround sound (that DH can out of 8 channels) out of only two channels...

 

 

this can also be seen in creative's Sound cards...

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I can second that. I have a Xonar U1 and the U7. The U1 has the same software as the Xonar Essence STX that I had some time ago. Even with the STX it was impossible to feel a difference between 2 or 7.1 channel settings. I just finished the sigle player of COD GHOSTS using the U7 and boy did it sound like a full blown 7.1 speaker setup. I did compare the immersion created by the U1 at 7.1 and the U7 at 2.0 and besides that the U7 sounds better in regards of resolution, I could not find differeces in surround sound placements. That goes not only for games, but also for movies.
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Originally Posted by pietcux View Post

I can second that. I have a Xonar U1 and the U7. The U1 has the same software as the Xonar Essence STX that I had some time ago. Even with the STX it was impossible to feel a difference between 2 or 7.1 channel settings. I just finished the sigle player of COD GHOSTS using the U7 and boy did it sound like a full blown 7.1 speaker setup. I did compare the immersion created by the U1 at 7.1 and the U7 at 2.0 and besides that the U7 sounds better in regards of resolution, I could not find differeces in surround sound placements. That goes not only for games, but also for movies.

If I have Xonar Phoebus and Berdynamic DT990 600ohms headphones, would it help if I buy and use the Xonar U7 ? Cause xonar phoebus seems to support only 5.1 channels and not 7.1 . when trying to test it with a Blueray Sound Test, when trying to use 7.1 it just fails or u can't hear anything from the side speakers which are in 7.1 only, when using 5.1 it works for the current speakers cause it's only 5.1.

 

 

"The Surround Decoder in Dolby Home Theater v4 creates a surround sound experience by converting two-channel stereo audio into 5.1 channels and converting 5.1-channel audio into 7.1 channels."

 

How do I know what and when to set in PotPlayer or MPC or in the LavFilter. what speaker set ? and in BF4 for example. If I see a movies with DTS then I need to set 5.1 in the media player and it will convert it to 7.1 ?  In BF4 if I want 7.1 I need to choose HI-FI and stereo or Surround ? If the movie itself is 7.1 DTS-MA or TrueDts what should I choose ?


Edited by x7007 - 7/23/14 at 1:07am
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