Ocharaku 音茶楽 thread
Nov 30, 2016 at 12:15 PM Post #121 of 430
 
I got the co-Donguri (Dawn-blue) this Monday, and I have to admit that these are quite magical. Know that i have no experience with any other Ocharaku iems yet.
These are so transparent, and effortless in projecting the details that I'm quite awestruck. The bass decay is addictive, and timber all over is perfect. I haven't touched my JVC FX1100 since I got these!
 
Bass is present only when called for and they have a "sexy" impact; highs are superb, slightly forward with a bell-like quality: you won't miss any percussion details in this. Drum-kit sounds authentic and amazing. Vocals aren't pushed forward, they are in level with the mid instruments.
Spin-fits that come along are the best for these iems, with deep insertion. These have a full sound, with very good instrument positioning, albeit not so distinctly separate due to fuller sounding nature.
 
Really addicting sound. I think it's all about the decay - with the lows and highs.
I went on and ordered a Chonmage-3 today (just couldn't stop!). Having really high hopes for these.

Thanks mate - picked up same one a couple of weeks ago myself, will be posting review this weekend. great price performance signature!
 
Let me know how you get on with the  Chonmage-3 - cheers
 
Dec 5, 2016 at 11:13 AM Post #122 of 430
Just acquired the Chonmage 3 today. Here are my impressions, and comparison with Co-Donguri, right off the bat :
 
1. I'd say Chonmage 3 is a grown up co-Donguri, with less aggression and more maturity with the sound.
2. Chonmage 3 (C3) didn't give me the "wow" effect I experienced with co-Donguri. Too bad!
3. The bell like highs of co-Donguri are tamed a bit, with more added weight in C3. Slightly heavier notes throughout the spectrum. The highs don't sound like a bell anymore in C3.
4. C3 has slightly better (deeper and tighter) bass compared to co-Donguri. Co-Donguri has a longer bass decay whereas the C3's are heavier and more present. Of course they're only present when called for.
5. Vocals seem to have more resolution and clarity with C3. The higher mids are slightly emphasized in the co-Donguri.
6. Co-Donguri is a bit aggressive with details - will give you a feeling of hearing more sounds, more pronounced. It's just a feeling though, really everything is present in C3 as well, but all in it's right place.
7. I can fit the co-Donguris deeper than the C3s. Build is awesome with hard plastic in C3.
 
I really think they're using the same driver here, but the Tornado Turbo Air is bringing out more note-weight and timbre to the C3s.
C3 is clearly superior technically throughout the spectrum. Timbre is also slightly better with superb presentation, like none other I've heard.
 
Nevertheless, it's all only "slightly" better than the co-Donguri in Chonmage 3.
Co-Donguri is more reckless, like a teenager, and shows more attitude on your face.
Chonmage 3 is much matured, and refined, like one that shows more class and expensive taste.
 
If co-Donguri is young Siddhartha, then Chonmage 3 is Gautama Buddha.
 
All said and done, I like Co-Donguri more as of now. Highs are higher, and very tasty. I still remember the magic when I first heard them. However, Chonmage 3 is just a day old. Will post back if I find anything interesting.
 
Ocharaku FTW. I think i'll soon get the RAKU.
 
Thanks for reading.
 
Dec 5, 2016 at 1:42 PM Post #123 of 430
  Just acquired the Chonmage 3 today. Here are my impressions, and comparison with Co-Donguri, right off the bat :
 
1. I'd say Chonmage 3 is a grown up co-Donguri, with less aggression and more maturity with the sound.
2. Chonmage 3 (C3) didn't give me the "wow" effect I experienced with co-Donguri. Too bad!
3. The bell like highs of co-Donguri are tamed a bit, with more added weight in C3. Slightly heavier notes throughout the spectrum. The highs don't sound like a bell anymore in C3.
4. C3 has slightly better (deeper and tighter) bass compared to co-Donguri. Co-Donguri has a longer bass decay whereas the C3's are heavier and more present. Of course they're only present when called for.
5. Vocals seem to have more resolution and clarity with C3. The higher mids are slightly emphasized in the co-Donguri.
6. Co-Donguri is a bit aggressive with details - will give you a feeling of hearing more sounds, more pronounced. It's just a feeling though, really everything is present in C3 as well, but all in it's right place.
7. I can fit the co-Donguris deeper than the C3s. Build is awesome with hard plastic in C3.
 
I really think they're using the same driver here, but the Tornado Turbo Air is bringing out more note-weight and timbre to the C3s.
C3 is clearly superior technically throughout the spectrum. Timbre is also slightly better with superb presentation, like none other I've heard.
 
Nevertheless, it's all only "slightly" better than the co-Donguri in Chonmage 3.
Co-Donguri is more reckless, like a teenager, and shows more attitude on your face.
Chonmage 3 is much matured, and refined, like one that shows more class and expensive taste.
 
If co-Donguri is young Siddhartha, then Chonmage 3 is Gautama Buddha.
 
All said and done, I like Co-Donguri more as of now. Highs are higher, and very tasty. I still remember the magic when I first heard them. However, Chonmage 3 is just a day old. Will post back if I find anything interesting.
 
Ocharaku FTW. I think i'll soon get the RAKU.
 
Thanks for reading.


agree with you as i have the entire surround ocharakus.
try the donguri syou kurenai.
 
Dec 6, 2016 at 11:21 AM Post #127 of 430
 
Ordered the Syou Kurenai!
This better have those mesmerizing highs :p


u make a right choice, the extension of the kurenai is better than raku. pleasant sounding but of course, all ocharakus r unique in their own way so best is to acquire all.
the hagane version meanwhile is a tamed kurenai with more bass and warmth.
am going to get the mmcx donguri soon too
 
Dec 7, 2016 at 12:09 PM Post #128 of 430
 
"so best is to acquire all."

This. I just might end up doing this. 
I'm guessing the Hagane must sound  a lot like Chonmage 3 - with the tamed highs. Please correct me if i'm wrong.
The bass as it is is amazing in Chonmage 3. Are the highs on the same level, C3 vs Hagane ?
 
I also noticed you have all the different colours of the Shizuku model - do they sound any different from each other ?
 
Dec 8, 2016 at 10:27 PM Post #130 of 430
This. I just might end up doing this. 
I'm guessing the Hagane must sound  a lot like Chonmage 3 - with the tamed highs. Please correct me if i'm wrong.
The bass as it is is amazing in Chonmage 3. Are the highs on the same level, C3 vs Hagane ?

I also noticed you have all the different colours of the Shizuku model - do they sound any different from each other ?
hagane and c3 are around the same but hagane has a more full impact on the lows. c3 highs is better. every ocharaku is unique.
the shizuku for collection :p
 
Dec 17, 2016 at 2:02 PM Post #131 of 430
Been spending most of my last week with various Ocharaku IEMs. 
Here I submit my impressions and comparisons.


Some tracks I chose for comparison are songs by Dave Brubeck, Daft Punk, few progressive rock tracks, some from Mahavishnu Orchestra, and a few songs with vocals, flute, tabla, etc. All driven from my Moto G first gen, all of them 320 Kbps mp3s.

Here it goes: 
Co-Donguri Shizuku - main characteristics: slight mid bass hump; upper mid is slightly forward; highs are the stars of the presentation with most presence. Excellent details with somewhat thin notes throughout the spectrum. Has slower decay in the bass and treble regions which feigns nice timber with a resounding echo - so to speak.
Donguri Raku - Second tier Donguri is more balanced across the spectrum. They lost the mid bass hump from Shizuku, and brought down to highs, which were mesmerizing in the Shizukus. Rakus still have a nice treble presence and extends well. Notes are still as thin as Shizuku. Decay is faster, making these less airier and less magical than the Shizukus. Nothing to complain, but nothing stands out as magical. These are the most boring in the Donguri Series, and have the thinnest cable, and have the ugliest Y splitter.
Donguri Syou Kurenai - Another step above in the Donguri series, brings those of you who are not too shy of treble here. These have really thick notes throughout the spectrum, and i would say the bassiest in the series. There is no mid bass hump though, and the signature sounds balanced all the way. I expected the highs to be shimmering like in the Shizuku, but was rather disappointed. They extend very well, but are just as forward as the mids and bass. Somehow the Syou Kurenai makes them sound as if the bass, mids and highs are all boosted. Some details get hidden behind the big bass though.

Ocharaku Chonmage 3 - These almost sound like the Syou Kurenai, but are more well behaved, in the sense that all the spectrum does not seem boosted, but are tastefully reproduced. Note thickness are almost of the same caliber with Syou Kurenai, but thick only where needed, slight when softly played. Highs are more satisfying, and the timbre sounds slightly more natural. Also, bass shows more presence in the Kurenai, compared to these. Instrument positioning on par with Kurenai, with slightly more separation (sometimes). C3 is like Kurenai when sober. Or you can say Kurenai is C3 on Cocaine.

Bonus comparisons : 
Olasonic FLAT4 Nami - This is really another planet. I mean, seriously.

These are so wide that in comparison, all of the Donguri series, including the C3s, sound cluttered. Instruments are separated by miles. Timbre of instruments is impeccable. These have the lowest bass presence, and only come out when called for, with a soft impact that is just about enough. The highs are more piercing, and keeps me in a perpetual goosebumpy state (I love it). Details are on another level, and every sound is presented in its own space which can be distinctly perceived and savoured.

My personal ranking of these IEMs on the key areas (Including JVC FX1100 - an IEM 100 USD greater than all listed here)
Updated/Corrected
Bass (quantity) : FX1100 > Kurenai > C3 > Shizuku > Raku = Nami
Bass (quality) : C3 = Nami > FX1100 > Raku > Shizuku > Kurenai (FX probably goes deeper than all of them)
Mids: Nami > C3 > Kurenai > Shizuku > Raku > FX1100
Vocals: Nami > C3 > Kurenai > Shizuku > Raku > FX1100
Highs: Nami > Shizuku > C3 > FX1100 > Kurenai > Raku
Soundstage (width): Nami > FX1100 > C3 > Shizuku > Kurenai = Raku 
Soundstage (depth): FX1100 > C3 > Kurenai = Shizuku > Raku > Nami
Instrument separation/ positioning: Nami > FX1100 > C3 > Raku = Shizuku = Kurenai
Timbre: Nami > FX1100 = C3 > Shizuku > Raku >= Kurenai
Value for money: Shizuku >> C3> Nami > FX1100 > Raku > Kurenai
Price: FX1100 (370 USD) > Nami = Kurenai (270 USD) > C3 (200 USD) > Raku (110 USD) > Shizuku (50 USD) -- rough approximation, including import tax.  

To sum up, in some fun words --

Shizuku is like the nicotine high, remember the first time you got high on a cigarette ? The real gateway drug, this iem got me spending 700 USDs in a couple of weeks

C3 can be compared to a nice havanna Cigar, or some fancy red wine (just a glass) that you relish with satisfaction.

Syou Kurenai can be a line of coke after a night full of drinking!

FX1100 has to be weed- with the big bottom, it will suit the mellow feel.

Nami is like a trip on Acid on a clear day- it will open new doors of perception.

Raku is the downer :wink: (I'd say Raku is still better than, or atleast in the same level as, Flare Audio R2A or ZA Duoza or ZA Tenore or FXT90, and the likes)

Drugs are bad, don't do drugs - the above was just some fun comparison.

Thanks for reading.
 
Dec 17, 2016 at 4:42 PM Post #132 of 430
  Been spending most of my last week with various Ocharaku IEMs. 
Here I submit my impressions and comparisons.

Some tracks I chose for comparison are songs by Dave Brubeck, Daft Punk, few progressive rock tracks, some from Mahavishnu Orchestra, and a few songs with vocals, flute, tabla, etc. All driven from my Moto G first gen, all of them 320 Kbps mp3s.
 
Here it goes: 
Co-Donguri Shizuku - main characteristics: slight mid bass hump; upper mid is slightly forward; highs are the stars of the presentation with most presence. Excellent details with somewhat thin notes throughout the spectrum. Has slower decay in the bass and treble regions which feigns nice timber with a resounding echo - so to speak.
Donguri Raku - Second tier Donguri is more balanced across the spectrum. They lost the mid bass hump from Shizuku, and brought down to highs, which were mesmerizing in the Shizukus. Rakus still have a nice treble presence and extends well. Notes are still as thin as Shizuku. Decay is faster, making these less airier and less magical than the Shizukus. Nothing to complain, but nothing stands out as magical. These are the most boring in the Donguri Series, and have the thinnest cable, and have the ugliest Y splitter.
Donguri Syou Kurenai - Another step above in the Donguri series, brings those of you who are not too shy of treble here. These have really thick notes throughout the spectrum, and i would say the bassiest in the series. There is no mid bass hump though, and the signature sounds really balanced all the way. I expected the highs to be shimmering like in the Shizuku, but was rather disappointed. They extend very well, but are just as forward as the mids and bass. But somehow the Syou Kurenai makes them sound as if the bass, mids and highs are all boosted. Syou Kurenai has better instrument positioning, and separation.
Ocharaku Chonmage 3 - These almost sound like the Syou Kurenai, but are more well behaved, in the sense that all the spectrum does not seem boosted, but are tastefully reproduced. Note thickness are almost of the same caliber with Syou Kurenai, but thick only where needed, slight when softly played. Highs are more satisfying, and the timbre sounds slightly more natural. Also, bass shows more presence in the Kurenai, compared to these. Instrument positioning on par with Kurenai, with slightly more separation (sometimes). C3 is like Kurenai when sober. Or you can say Kurenai is C3 on Cocaine.
 
Bonus comparisons : 
Olasonic FLAT4 Nami - This is really another planet. I mean, seriously.
These are so wide that in comparison, all of the Donguri series, including the C3s, sound cluttered. Instruments are separated by miles. Timbre of instruments is impeccable. These have the lowest bass presence, and only come out when called for, with a soft impact that is just about enough. The highs are more piercing, and keeps me in a perpetual goosebumpy state (I love it). Details are on another level, and every sound is presented in its own space which can be distinctly perceived and savoured.
 
My personal ranking of these IEMs on the key areas (Including JVC FX1100 - an IEM 100 USD greater than all listed here)
 
Bass (quantity) : FX1100 > Kurenai > C3 > Shizuku > Raku > Nami
Bass (quality) : C3 = Nami > Kurenai = FX1100 > Raku > Shizuku  (FX probably goes deeper than all of them)
Mids: Nami > C3 > SYOU > Shizuku > Raku > FX1100
Vocals: Nami > C3 > SYOU > Shizuku > Raku > FX1100
Highs: Nami > C3 >= Shizuku > FX1100 = Kurenai > Raku
Soundstage (width): Nami > FX1100 > C3 > Shizuku > Kurenai = Raku 
Soundstage (depth): FX1100 >= Nami  > C3 > Kurenai = Shizuku > Raku
Instrument separation/ positioning: Nami > FX1100 = C3 = Kurenai > Raku > Shizuku
Timbre: Nami > FX1100 = C3 > Kurenai = Raku = Shizuku
Value for money: Shizuku >> C3> Nami > FX1100 > Kurenai = Raku
Price: FX1100 (370 USD) > Nami = Kurenai (270 USD) > C3 (200 USD) > Raku (110 USD) > Shuzuku (50 USD) -- rough approximation, including import tax.  
 
To sum up, in some fun words --
Shizuku is like the nicotine high, remember the first time you got high on a cigarette ? The real gateway drug, this iem got me spending 700 USDs in a couple of weeks
C3 can be compared to a nice havanna Cigar, or some fancy red wine (just a glass) that you relish with satisfaction.
Syou Kurenai can be a line of coke after a night full of drinking!
FX1100 has to be weed- with the big bottom, it will suit the mellow feel.
Nami is like a trip on Acid on a clear day- it will open new doors of perception.
Raku is the downer :wink: (I'd say Raku is still better than, or atleast in the same level as, Flare Audio R2A or ZA Duoza or ZA Tenore or FXT90, and the likes)
 
Drugs are bad, don't do drugs - the above was just some fun comparison.
 
Thanks for reading.


Have you also been able to hear the Flat4 Keyaki line? Impressions on those are rare. Even ohm image hasn't wrote anything about them. 
 
Dec 17, 2016 at 8:45 PM Post #134 of 430
Have you also been able to hear the Flat4 Keyaki line? Impressions on those are rare. Even ohm image hasn't wrote anything about them. 
yeap the new Flat 4 Keyaki has a balanced sound signature. Have heard all ocharakus myself
 
Dec 18, 2016 at 12:51 AM Post #135 of 430
Drugs are bad, don't do drugs - the above was just some fun comparison.

Thanks for reading.


Wow thanks for the comparison. NAMI's the only one i've heard but man it really has the most remarkable stage layering in the width I have encountered in 20+ iem. I probably should have held onto them but I already had ex1000 which were somewhat similar in tuning and still my favorite iem.
 

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