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Fischer Amps FA-4 E XB: New 4-BA IEM From Germany

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['ve received today the fischer amps fa 4e xb, i upgraded them from the fischer amps fa 3e xb paying the difference. Jochen Fischers of Fischer amps is a really nice guy, he repaired my fa 3e xb with the broken nozzle for 35 euros (my shure 535 had the same issue and people from shure only offered me only a full replacement of 200 euros) and after that i told him I saw the fischer amps fa 4e xb and he told me i could upgrade from my xb 3e to them for 50 euros, comunication was great so if you cant find the fischer amps fa 4e xb in any store yet here is his mail jochen@fischer-amps.de he also send very cheap by dhl.

Before i start my impressions here is the link of the fischer amps fa 3e xb http://www.head-fi.org/t/660493/fischer-amps-fa-3e-xb-impressions
 which will be very useful in this new thread.

Some pics of the fa 4e xb:










As you can see the first and most obvius difference between the fa 3e xb and the fa 4e is the Fischer Amps logo in the shell which look really nice. The fischer amps fa 3e look good too, but the design is a bit plain so this is very positive for people who care about design, they look really good in my opinion. the size of the shell is the same as the fischer amps fa3exb though they have 1 more driver inside.

The configuration of the fa xb 4e is 1 driver highs+1 driver mids+ 2 drivers lows( balanced vented lows) 3-way crossover the fischer amps fa 3e xb are 1 driver mids highs+ 2 drivers lows( balanced vented lows) 2-way crossover.

So how they sound?, as I said the link of the fischer amps fa3e xb is above. The fischer amps fa 4e xb sound like an improved version of the fa 3e xb, the lows are the same, clarity is the same, timbre is the same and finally soundsig is the same. The most significant improvement is in the intrument separation they add also a bit wider soundstage and now the fischers sound more 3d; you can pick each instrument easily anyway separation on the fischers 3e is quite good and very natural to my ears, more natural than the 4s but less 3d and technically under and i think they are less in your face due to this but very in front mids anyway. there is a bit more sparkle on the highs also and a bit more microdetail in the mids and in the highs but the rest is the same. They cost 400 euros  im not gonna compare them against the ex1000 or the sm3 v2 as i did it with the fischer amps fa 3e xb which i think are the best balanced ive heard and the 4s add some improvements which make them great iems


More impressions:


Pics+impressions by music_4321:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/667638/fischer-amps-fa-4-e-xb-new-4-ba-iem-from-germany/90 pics
http://www.head-fi.org/t/667638/fischer-amps-fa-4-e-xb-new-4-ba-iem-from-germany/105 first impressions
http://www.head-fi.org/t/667638/fischer-amps-fa-4-e-xb-new-4-ba-iem-from-germany/120 more impressions

impressions by sect44:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/667638/fischer-amps-fa-4-e-xb-new-4-ba-iem-from-germany/180 first impressions

http://www.head-fi.org/t/667638/fischer-amps-fa-4-e-xb-new-4-ba-iem-from-germany/240. Comparation between ck100 pro and fa 4e xb by sect44

http://www.head-fi.org/t/667638/fischer-amps-fa-4-e-xb-new-4-ba-iem-from-germany/735 Comparation between fa 4e and ie 800

First impressions by Carlsan:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/667638/fischer-amps-fa-4-e-xb-new-4-ba-iem-from-germany/270

Comparation between heir 5.0 and fa 4e xb by Carlsan: http://www.head-fi.org/t/667638/fischer-amps-fa-4-e-xb-new-4-ba-iem-from-germany/375#post_9842292

First impressions by Darkbeat:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/667638/fischer-amps-fa-4-e-xb-new-4-ba-iem-from-germany/360
http://www.head-fi.org/t/667638/fischer-amps-fa-4-e-xb-new-4-ba-iem-from-germany/390 more impressions

First impressions by ek2k6:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/667638/fischer-amps-fa-4-e-xb-new-4-ba-iem-from-germany/405
http://www.head-fi.org/t/664613/review-aurisonics-asg-2-plus-comparisons-fischer-fa-4e-xb-fitear-f111-cardas-em5813-added comparation between asg2 and fa 4e

First impressions by Ultrazino:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/667638/fischer-amps-fa-4-e-xb-new-4-ba-iem-from-germany/420
http://www.head-fi.org/t/667638/fischer-amps-fa-4-e-xb-new-4-ba-iem-from-germany/450 further impressions

First impressions by shotgunshane:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/667638/fischer-amps-fa-4-e-xb-new-4-ba-iem-from-germany/480

First impressions by esuhgb:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/667638/fischer-amps-fa-4-e-xb-new-4-ba-iem-from-germany/525

Vwinter impressions:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/667638/fischer-amps-fa-4-e-xb-new-4-ba-iem-from-germany/555

First impressions by Moonyeol
http://www.head-fi.org/t/667638/fischer-amps-fa-4-e-xb-new-4-ba-iem-from-germany/570
Comparation between asg-2, ue900, ck100 pro and fa 4e by Moonyeol http://www.head-fi.org/t/687962/asg-2-ck100pro-ue900-and-fa-4e-xb-reviews-the-dysfunctional-family
review on head gear section http://www.head-fi.org/products/fischer-amps-fa-4e-xb/reviews/10016

First impressions by sly_in_the_sky
http://www.head-fi.org/t/667638/fischer-amps-fa-4-e-xb-new-4-ba-iem-from-germany/600
http://www.head-fi.org/t/667638/fischer-amps-fa-4-e-xb-new-4-ba-iem-from-germany/705 brief comparation between sme 6 and fa 4e
http://www.head-fi.org/t/667638/fischer-amps-fa-4-e-xb-new-4-ba-iem-from-germany/735 comparation between fa 4e and pfe 232

First impressions and comparation with tg 334 by cn11
http://www.head-fi.org/t/667638/fischer-amps-fa-4-e-xb-new-4-ba-iem-from-germany/690
http://www.head-fi.org/t/667638/fischer-amps-fa-4-e-xb-new-4-ba-iem-from-germany/765
comparation between gr07 and fa 4e http://www.head-fi.org/t/667638/fischer-amps-fa-4-e-xb-new-4-ba-iem-from-germany/750#post_10017337
fischer amps + sony zx-1 http://www.head-fi.org/t/680853/sony-nwz-zx1-35th-walkman-anniversary-model/2490#post_10109237

Comparation between fa 4e and shure 846 by cn11:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/667638/fischer-amps-fa-4-e-xb-new-4-ba-iem-from-germany/1080

First impressions and comparation between fa 4e-sony ex1000-sm64-ie800 by vrnl
http://www.head-fi.org/t/667638/fischer-amps-fa-4-e-xb-new-4-ba-iem-from-germany/930

Impressions by rawster
http://www.head-fi.org/t/667638/fischer-amps-fa-4-e-xb-new-4-ba-iem-from-germany/1005#post_10139394

Dnun8086 first impressions:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/667638/fischer-amps-fa-4-e-xb-new-4-ba-iem-from-germany/1050

lolhart first impressions:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/667638/fischer-amps-fa-4-e-xb-new-4-ba-iem-from-germany/1155

First impressions by flegendre:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/667638/fischer-amps-fa-4-e-xb-new-4-ba-iem-from-germany/1410#post_10563910

My own comparation between fa 4e and sony ex1000
http://www.head-fi.org/t/667638/fischer-amps-fa-4-e-xb-new-4-ba-iem-from-germany/495

Brief comparation between sme6 and fa 4e by Rollk2
http://www.head-fi.org/t/667638/fischer-amps-fa-4-e-xb-new-4-ba-iem-from-germany/705#post_9997198

Brief comparation between fa 4e and heir 4ai plus sm64
http://www.head-fi.org/t/667638/fischer-amps-fa-4-e-xb-new-4-ba-iem-from-germany/885

Johndoe first impressions and comparation between sm64:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/667638/fischer-amps-fa-4-e-xb-new-4-ba-iem-from-germany/1335

First impressions by caraca08:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/667638/fischer-amps-fa-4-e-xb-new-4-ba-iem-from-germany/1350

My comparation between w40 and fa 4e:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/667638/fischer-amps-fa-4-e-xb-new-4-ba-iem-from-germany/1530

Comparation between sd3 and fa 4e xb by Burtonchell:

The SD-3 is a very bass accentuaded in-ear which in my ear has too much boost in the upper bass at 180-200 Hz - mids and highs gets slightly masked and dark coloured of this tremendous low frequency response otherwise it pretends a really huge soundstage.

With Accudio Pro on iPhone 4S I reduced the area in the upper bass around -12 dB and so mids and highs appear like unveiled but soundstage loses depth.

In summary the SD-3 has a very bass and mid strong tonality with a technical outstanding performance.

Marco from In-Ear told me that the SD-3 is a result of many reqeuests of stage musicians (mainly keyboarder and drummers) who wants a better low frequency feedack to counter surrounding noise and asking for a strong fit.
That many "hifi-people" like the sound representation of the StageDivers is a well registered side-effect for the company.

Though for my choice the SD-3 is a unique "effect machine" and has a disadvantage with the fractional covered mids and highs.
Violins as example are too dark coloured - female voices have sometimes a meddlesome peak. And with time its getting fatiguing for me.

So my next try was the Fischer Amps FA-4 E XB and my first impressions were that I can´t say whether this in-ear sounds cold or warm, dark or harsh, powerful or dry, inflated or thin.
It was a "out-of-the-box-sweet-spot-bull's-eye" and I was deeply impressed about the favorable tonal matching.

First of all to say: the FA-4 is bass-boosted too, but not in that officious manner of SD-3 and in an other way. The sub bass of FA-4 is +6 dB above neutral with a gradient characteristic to the upper bass. Key tone is more neutral / slightly warm than fully warm in comparison to SD-3. I want to describe the mids as "creamy" - not in the catchy and pushy way of the SD-3 more a relaxed and nestling between nature with a slight wide-band peak at 1700 Hz. But not at any time really audible in music. Just tested per "signal generator" on a iOS-device. Furthermore a peak at 6500 & 8500 Hz - and a wide-band dip @ 4 kHz. Again, slightly peaks/dips withouth a disruptive behavior by listening several genres - classic, pop, rock, indiependent, alternative, metal.

The Sounding is comparable to the TF10 - but with more warmth in the mid-range and with brillant but not harsh and metallic highs.

The FA-4 has a more airy and clearer sound presentation and a wider but not so deep soundstage as SD-3. The instrument seperation and resolution of both are on a very high rank but with FA-4 there is not such a masking effect as with SD-3. I can say: reverb on FA-4 has more air to breathe ... (c;

The proper and comfortable fit with the fischer amps is the best I´ve ever tested. The SD-3 has a so called suction process with gives a stronger locked-up fit but with the full concha build it is more noticeable in my ears. Both on top level - you have to check on your own.

So long I can highly recommend the FA-4E XB from Jochen Fischer and Fischer Amps. He has done a more than remarkable job with this four-driver-in-ear especially for people who loves the TF10-sounding and want a upgrade with more detail, punch and a larger soundstage with more mid-warmth and silkier but comprehensive highs.

I´m overjoyed with the FA-4 and it´s overall performance ! Hope that somebody gets this great product too and gives a review in here!


Comparation between ASG-2 and fa 4e xb by music_4321:

"First off, I'd like to thank Eke for being brave—yes, brave—and confident enough to have his ASG-2s tested / auditioned by several (experienced) head-fiers, some of whom he knows will be very honest—too honest perhaps!—even if they happen to like him and know how fond he is of the ASG-2s. It isn't always easy to get genuine impressions which are not too coloured by biases, agendas, friendship / peer pressure, people with close ties to the manufacturer, etc. Not easy, either, to get someone with Eke's genuine will / spirit to search, find out, and not be easily fooled by so much BS, marketing gimmicks and plenty of snake oil found in our so-called hobby. But Eke, like all of us, has his own preferences, too, and enthusiasm that sometimes may get the better of most of us; Eke's genuinely passionate about music and gear—always a good thing in by book… AND exploring and learning.

Okay, have done a bit of A/Bing between the AF-4s & ASG-2s (about 20 mins). Unfortunately, when I switch from the F4s to the G2s, something seems to be missing with the latter — can't quite put my finger on it yet, but the F4s sound more natural, more even, so to speak. The G2s seem to be missing something particularly when they transition between the midrange to higher registers; the only word I can think of is something sounds a bit 'hollow', something just not quite right. But I need to stress that I only notice this more clearly when switching from the F4s to the G2s (which I can do very quickly with my V200 which has two HP outs).

Also, the F4s do seem to reach deeper (sub-bass area) than the G2s — some, though I know this may seem contradictory, may not enjoy that aspect of the F4s that much. The G2's dynamic driver may have the slight upper hand in texture and timbre over the F4s, but only very slightly. I think some people may genuinely prefer the G2s. Not me…. so far... and I still believe more people would find the F4s more their cup of tea.

If I'm comparing the F4s with the G2s, it's because I've only recently got the former, and both IEMs are similarly priced: The FA-4E, a German-made IEM, retails for 385€ (~$510) but can be had for less even in the USA as the on-line shop that sells the FA-4 deducts German tax (~20%) when shipping outside the EU (though you have to add shipping costs to the USA / outside the EU, but it still works out cheaper for people residing outside the EU).

Perhaps our grumpy sparrow is just a bloody FA-4 fanboy but he just won't admit it!"



Review by a musician extracted from thomann:

Perfect for drummer/bass player



After some InEars for 100 EUR with a disappointing presentation these are the perfect inear monitoring plugs for me.



As a bass player I need a very precise representation of low- and mid -frequencies and it lives up with these inears without a flaw.


Beside the clear playback of all details you get enough drive with them for having a lot of fun for a never-glaze sounding.


The punch of tight beaten bass drum kicks or attacks on bass strings becoming never as drown as usual or appear lifeless.


Additionally it sounds all easy to separate and little details in highs appear as super clear in presentation.


With large silicon tips I have a perfect fit and I can jump around while playing and the fit still remains dead certain without getting unpleasant.



So it has to be meant if you want to go off the rails and having great fun.



I´m perfectly happy with this treasures.



Comparation between ue900 and fa 4e xb by sect44:


These IEMs are growing on me everyday. Just made an A/B comparison with UE900 using only AK120 and flac as the source and can surely say they are clearly superior.
I'll only describe the differences briefly because there's plenty of information about the general sound signature in the respectives threads.

At first listening the first impression is that their sound signature is very similar, but the Fischer does everything better, more bass and highs and more pronounced mids, more detailed and overall better soundstage.
It seemed Fischer is UE900 bigger brother
I'm not saying UE900 is a bad phone all, on the contrary, is the clothest to the Fischer"s sound to date, just not so engaging, I just dont feel so connected to the music as with the FA-4.
I always thought UE900 bass was lacking and the Fischer seems to solve it.
Edited by Kurdt-bada - 6/17/14 at 2:45am
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Nice, seems the universal custom is really coming along now.  These, Heir and Stage diver have really given the others something to think about.

post #3 of 1731
Thread Starter 

yep another difference between the 4 balanced universals in this range price is that all seems to share a neutral-sweet presentation while these provide fun and impactful bass without sacrificing  detail in the mids and the highs, separation, soundstage and clarity.

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Originally Posted by Kurdt-bada View Post

yep another difference between the 4 balanced universals in this range price is that all seems to share a neutral-sweet presentation while these provide fun and impactful bass without sacrificing  detail in the mids and the highs, separation, soundstage and clarity.

 

I don't think I have owned any 4-BA driver IEM with a neutral-sweet presentation.  The UE 900s, W4, and 4.Ai all being examples.

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I havent owned any of them so i cant compare, but as ive read the w4, ue900 and heir are more neutral while the fischers are fun as they have more bass than the um3x
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did i say soundstage is huge on the fischers?, bigger than the sm3 and close to the ex 1000 but with better separation and clear and detailed presentation while the bass hits harder and goes very deep, excelent mids and very well extended sparkly highs...im using the comply t500 didnt like em with the silicone tips provided- too much bass and dark sound. Wonderful sound with this tips , detail and clarity are simply amazing 


Edited by Kurdt-bada - 6/21/13 at 1:33pm
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Thread Starter 

a comparation of the sd3 and the fischer amps fa 4e extracted from a german forum here is the link http://www.hifi-forum.de/viewthread-110-14384.html

 

and the text using google translation: Hello, recently it gibts Fischer Amps FA-3 sequel to the E XB - now equipped with four instead of three drivers per side - the FA-4 E XB (2 x backvented bass, 1x medium 1x tweeter) in a three-way Design. A summary of the FA series with frequency graph comparison there is here . scope of supply is identical to the existing listeners. Silicone & Foamtips in three sizes, with Reinigungspen-brush, and a hard case.Wearing comfort with the foamies tested so far the best I have been able to experience with one ear. The Stage Diver 3 in comparison to the basis of the full-concha shape and the regular suction, a strammeren / tighter, sparked with me with the silicone tips but after repeated insertion of an irritation in the inner ear from, but rather on the Tower type used, as is likely to be attributable to the specific design. , but you can feel the contour of the SD-3 on the outer ear, as the listener just quite busy rests flat due to the design, the FA-4 does it feel a little freer and easier due to the smaller contact area , but offers enough support for running and trampolining .. Achieving the proper fit and Seals (with Summtest) with the FA-4 was also the very first inserting a matter of seconds, without any irritation: squeeze Foamie withdraw earlobe something reinschieben , once the cable around the ear turn, release earlobes done. Ooohmmmmm ..... to take the sound first impression in words, yet always struck me pretty easy at all getesten handset. When FA-4 is a generalization very hard for me. Cool / cold, dark / light, powerful / dry, inflated / transparent. Such things can not be clearly on the Fischer Amps. And the first is a good sign for me. Most likely I would probably want to attract even the comparison with the TF10, but this - from memory -. A lot thinner / more feeble than the FA-4 sound but is comparable to the pushing out from the bottom bass, the drier the FA reserved as the SD-3 acts of something purely suppressed at this in the root / lower mids and makes this slightly dark and warm sound created. The FA-4, however, has more of these subtle subwoofer effect that the SD-3 due to the pronounced mid range and the perceived reset by the strong "base" heights can not offer quite in this form. , the bass boost is therefore the FA-4 significantly less and not as far-reaching as the SD-3, but its vote stronger and bulkier goes to work and these unique , tangible illustration creates space that is already damn near a large press. The stage looks more generally at SD 3 little deeper, staggered on several layers, for it affects the FA-4 slightly wider, but just not this pompous / grandiose aura, the SD-3 suggests due to its vote. The centers are the SD -3 clearly stressed and more present, but I'm not around to say that they research, and even mini-minimal quäkig seemed to me minimal for certain tones of voice.Violins eg Cloud Cult ("Unexplainable Stories") seem to me a little too dark colored. If now all the top FA-4? A very clear. Jein you are definitely less present, but clouded in any degree / hidden / reset. Actually a pretty bescheurte terminology, but "creamy", the name that has fallen also in contact with FA-3, I would actually want to use for the midtone of the FA-fourth Also on rocketing risk of being dubbed from now on as wood ear. , the fact that I (can HRTF greet) have no peak or a particular hole is noticed in this area, I see the middle of the Fischer Amps although rather on the " . relaxed "side, but as definitely smooth and pleasing my wife felt ím short compared to SD-3 at the Voice playback and clear winners, but also something dark, bass-dominant - the FA-4 with the presentation of voices disguised as easily / veils - to thin. So obviously that is again with the owl and the nightingale .. decisive advantage in my ears and bekennendem team member Treble are the upper mids and treble of the FA-4, according to the DOF at 6.5 kHz and 8 , 5 kHz narrowband "poke" and that something would have to do something well in a pleasant way. 's presence, the glisten of Enstehenlassen that I hardly missed the SD-3, FA-4 creates an impressivemanner, without the sharpness of the TF10 to reach. In Superhochton I see him similar to the SD-3, which managed the same emphasis on selected test pieces. Though the SD-3 overall somewhat linear is in the treble to work, so I just lacked some freshness / brilliance / airiness that the FA -4 favorably promotes a-days, but without looking artificial. This is also due to the overall cooler / leaner vote of the lowest frequencies up to the root and the entire midrange. Should I pull a strap headphone comparison, I would probably call the D2000 perhaps best compared. The HE-400 is definitely something more sober works.Hochtontonenergie the Hifiman but there is a lot more. The centers I feel the FA somewhat superficial, voices with better timbre. course their own preferences (and the NTS play ) again a crucial role. Starting from a strong center listeners on the FA-4, could be quite a "center hole" created. In my case, which is rather something Bathtub afin, or at least more to the slopes to this, as can live for 'hot Molly, "the FA-4 is a very pleasing, even very enthusiastic listener who mainly with the sharp crack (deep) bass can set the tone, but without too much to fall into familiar stereotypes. But he does his job too refined - and without conspicuous gimmickry. All in Summarum I find it hard to SD-3 to send back home. The spatial presentation is stunning, but unfortunately not quite tonal seen my wavelength. 4 The FA has found that sweet spot right off the bat - after the first hearing, and after the first 6-7 h, at which I date him on heart - could check and kidneys. A 2 kHz peak I could not find the way to date. Mind: It is but to ersteindrücke - continued open ... Now I would actually have the RE-400 compared with the interest ...

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Thread Starter 
Available in thomann right now
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Hi there,

above mentioned is my review on german hifi-forum.de - a comparison of SD-3 and FA-4E XB.

The translation is unfortunately not very profitable at all so I will write here some words to my impressions.

The SD-3 is a very bass accentuaded in-ear which in my ear has too much boost in the upper bass at 180-200 Hz - mids and highs gets slightly masked and dark coloured of this tremendous low frequency response otherwise it pretends a really huge soundstage.

With Accudio Pro on iPhone 4S I reduced the area in the upper bass around -12 dB and so mids and highs appear like unveiled but soundstage loses depth.

In summary the SD-3 has a very bass and mid strong tonality with a technical outstanding performance.

Marco from In-Ear told me that the SD-3 is a result of many reqeuests of stage musicians (mainly keyboarder and drummers) who wants a better low frequency feedack to counter surrounding noise and asking for a strong fit.
That many "hifi-people" like the sound representation of the StageDivers is a well registered side-effect for the company.

Though for my choice the SD-3 is a unique "effect machine" and has a disadvantage with the fractional covered mids and highs.
Violins as example are too dark coloured - female voices have sometimes a meddlesome peak. And with time its getting fatiguing for me.

So my next try was the Fischer Amps FA-4 E XB and my first impressions were that I can´t say whether this in-ear sounds cold or warm, dark or harsh, powerful or dry, inflated or thin.
It was a "out-of-the-box-sweet-spot-bull's-eye" and I was deeply impressed about the favorable tonal matching.

First of all to say: the FA-4 is bass-boosted too, but not in that officious manner of SD-3 and in an other way. The sub bass of FA-4 is +6 dB above neutral with a gradient characteristic to the upper bass. Key tone is more neutral / slightly warm than fully warm in comparison to SD-3. I want to describe the mids as "creamy" - not in the catchy and pushy way of the SD-3 more a relaxed and nestling between nature with a slight wide-band peak at 1700 Hz. But not at any time really audible in music. Just tested per "signal generator" on a iOS-device. Furthermore a peak at 6500 & 8500 Hz - and a wide-band dip @ 4 kHz. Again, slightly peaks/dips withouth a disruptive behavior by listening several genres - classic, pop, rock, indiependent, alternative, metal.

The Sounding is comparable to the TF10 - but with more warmth in the mid-range and with brillant but not harsh and metallic highs.

The FA-4 has a more airy and clearer sound presentation and a wider but not so deep soundstage as SD-3. The instrument seperation and resolution of both are on a very high rank but with FA-4 there is not such a masking effect as with SD-3. I can say: reverb on FA-4 has more air to breathe ... (c;

The proper and comfortable fit with the fischer amps is the best I´ve ever tested. The SD-3 has a so called suction process with gives a stronger locked-up fit but with the full concha build it is more noticeable in my ears. Both on top level - you have to check on your own.

So long I can highly recommend the FA-4E XB from Jochen Fischer and Fischer Amps. He has done a more than remarkable job with this four-driver-in-ear especially for people who loves the TF10-sounding and want a upgrade with more detail, punch and a larger soundstage with more mid-warmth and silkier but comprehensive highs.

I´m overjoyed with the FA-4 and it´s overall performance ! Hope that somebody gets this great product too and gives a review in here!

Best regards,
BurtonCHell
Edited by BurtonCHell - 7/9/13 at 4:38am
post #10 of 1731
Thread Starter 
great impressions and comparation i agree with you in everything about the soundsignature!! i should indicate that resolution, detail, clarity and timbre are top notch too, fit is fantastic too

A friend of mine recieved them yesterday he tried them with several tips and find the sound to be much better than his um3x, w4 and pfe 232 he's so happy with them...

Hope it too these iems deserve more atention
Edited by Kurdt-bada - 7/11/13 at 7:30am
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tried my sm3 v2 today with the westone star tips they sound really good ive also have them without the filters then i went back to the fischers and i couldn't find anything that the sm3 does better than the fischers maybe they are amore liquid... there is a big difference between both in terms of sound and i have to say that the sm3 sounds pretty good too
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These look very interesting. I now have decided that the SD3 is not for me, that bass boast reminds me of my dreadful Senn IE8. Never again.

I would like to see a comparison between the Fischer FA-4e-XB and the Heir iA4 phones.


Edited by Cecala - 7/19/13 at 2:23am
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nice to see some atention to this thread i've never tried the heir 4ai... a friend of mine recently bought the fa 4e, after reading my impressions he sold his um3x he also had this iems: w4, pfe 232, shure 535, jvc fxz 200, sm3v2 and he vastly prefer the fischer amps over them. Don't know if Burtonchell had a chance to listen to the heir 4ai.

 

The fa 4e are balanced bass is deep with great impact and quantity but you don't miss anything in the mids or the highs, detail and clarity are the best ive heard


Edited by Kurdt-bada - 7/19/13 at 2:51am
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Originally Posted by Kurdt-bada View Post

nice to see some atention to this thread i've never tried the heir 4ai... a friend of mine recently bought the fa 4e, after reading my impressions he sold his um3x he also had this iems: w4, pfe 232, shure 535, jvc fxz 200, sm3v2 and he vastly prefer the fischer amps over them. Don't know if Burtonchell had a chance to listen to the heir 4ai.

 

The fa 4e are balanced bass is deep with great impact and quantity but you don't miss anything in the mids or the highs, detail and clarity are the best ive heard

 



This is most encouraging. I want extended highs with some sparkle and no roll-off and deep bass with no extreme boost. The IE8's had that massive soundstage that I love although the rest was Ka-Ka. I don't understand how so many people like them.(Maybe it's the age difference).

Kurdt-bada, can you expand on the quality of the iems, I must admit from the photos they don't exude quality at all.

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y6azeduv.jpgTook some pictures for you i removed the fa logo because was cheaply sticked with glue my friend did the same. They feel really sturdy as the shure 535 design is a bit plain but really nice

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Edited by Kurdt-bada - 7/19/13 at 7:34am
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