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Jun 10, 2013 at 11:23 PM Post #46 of 107
I just pre-ordered the PS4. Sony easily get my money this upcoming gen. Bummer about needing PS+ membership for multiplayer but the free games makes up for it.
 

 
Jun 11, 2013 at 12:01 AM Post #47 of 107
R.I.P Xbox One.

PS4 just gaveth the smackdown at the tail end of that conference. It was like EVERYTHING was directly aimed at Microsoft...
 
Jun 11, 2013 at 12:02 AM Post #48 of 107
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I just pre-ordered the PS4. Sony easily get my money this upcoming gen. Bummer about needing PS+ membership for multiplayer but the free games makes up for it.
 

Yeah, Honestly I was hoping it will be cheaper but was fully prepared for around $600 price. It's funny how we can get a next-gen console for less money than an ipad 
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. As far as the online play and ps+ membership I guess it was bound to happen with all the new online features and still the free games, the discounts and earlier releases of some games and DLCs etc. totally make up for the added cost.
 
Jun 11, 2013 at 12:42 AM Post #49 of 107
Jun 11, 2013 at 1:34 AM Post #51 of 107
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I just pre-ordered the PS4. Sony easily get my money this upcoming gen. Bummer about needing PS+ membership for multiplayer but the free games makes up for it.
 


Yeah but 5$ a month? not too shabby and I'm sure they will give you the "buy a year and get 20% off" or what ever discount. Kingdom hearts 3, and FF:V XIII; take my money now!  I'm going to hold off on a pre-order until I know exactly whats going to happen with this however.
 
Jun 11, 2013 at 2:08 AM Post #53 of 107
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I pre-order mine from Amazon. No tax, and they don't charge anything until it ship.


my wallet is looking as nervous when I got my Schist and HiFiman's. But I think the best move for me is to wait.
 
Jun 11, 2013 at 12:49 PM Post #55 of 107
For the two people that buy the Xbone, FFXV and KHIII are multi-platform, so they're not completely lost. Lol.
 
Jun 11, 2013 at 1:04 PM Post #56 of 107
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For the two people that buy the Xbone, FFXV and KHIII are multi-platform, so they're not completely lost. Lol.

LOL Yeah, microsoft has gone insane with all that stupid DRM protection and region-locked games. Why do they go through all that trouble to deal with second hand games and piracy when no one will buy xbox one because of all that crap (oh, and the higher price). They just received quite the sucker punch from sony and I'm not referring to the Infamous devs. All the xbox fans were like "oh, sony will impose the same restrictions... blabla" and now 90% of all these fanboys will get a ps4
 
Jun 11, 2013 at 1:14 PM Post #57 of 107
There is a hidden issue lying underneath this DRM. Developers wanted it so they can earn profits from THEIR games being re-sold, and I think this is a reason why EA is giving the XBone exclusive rights and first dibs to many of their games. Sony has become a hero for the consumers, but not for the developers.

Time will tell what repercussions this will have.
 
Jun 11, 2013 at 1:23 PM Post #58 of 107
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There is a hidden issue lying underneath this DRM. Developers wanted it so they can earn profits from THEIR games being re-sold, and I think this is a reason why EA is giving the XBone exclusive rights and first dibs to many of their games. Sony has become a hero for the consumers, but not for the developers.

Time will tell what repercussions this will have.

Yeah, microsoft promised this to the devs to make them happy but didn't figure out that because of it no one will buy the xbox one and in that regard no one will buy those devs' games for that console. And anyway, who cares about EA - they dropped the ball on their own already with their own DRM restrictions for pc. 
 
Jun 11, 2013 at 1:34 PM Post #59 of 107
I think from a dev's standpoint, some of it makes sense. Not in the way microsoft was shoving it down our throats, but in a game by game basis like EA did with console games. You can play the single player without restriction, but have to use a code to play online. This makes sense, as when a game is sold again, they can reap SOME profits. But at least, it's OPTIONAL. There are plenty of games that I play (ok, most games) where I don't even bother with the multiplayer. I think it's fair that those (like me) who rent games, aren't allowed online access, until you buy the game. The used game market is hurting the developers, which is why DRM is a thing. There has to be a happy medium. Not extreme control like the XBone, and not completely freedom like the PS4 (though that is ultra consumer friendly).
 
Jun 11, 2013 at 1:45 PM Post #60 of 107
Well, it's not THEIR games it's mine. Once I've paid for it that game becomes my property and as long as I haven't figured a way to copy and distribute it illegally for profit I can do whatever I wish with it. They can dream about getting piles of money from sales imposing such restrictions but most of the buyers will just wonder what are they smoking and move over to the competition. The only way the DRM can work universally is if the DRM protected games are cheaper. Otherwise, it's just nonsense - like a car manufacturer telling me I can't sell my car or someone telling me I can't sell my home because the construction company has built hundreds of new houses and they still haven't been sold. I agree there has to be a medium but the main issue it can't happen is that there is no way to differentiate between buying a used game and renting it. And it's a shady area coz one dev has already got money from me for a game and the one I'm selling it to most likely won't buy it new at all or will wait till it's heavily discounted. On the other hand, if I sell my game I can invest the money in another game and give money to that developer, who otherwise wouldn't get it because I'll be very cautious of which games I buy because I'll have to keep them permanently or sell them for nothing.
 
And if that happens people will buy only AAA titles and games which got high scores on reviews coz those are the games they'll most likely keep in their collection anyway. So all the unknown games from indie developers will be failures by default. Sony is going in a completely different direction welcoming all the indie devs and thus removing all restrictions, so they don't suffer coz otherwise only the big companies will survive in the gaming industry will go down the drain with all the same s**t from such companies like EA I don't want to be a gamer in such a future where creativity and innovation are worth nothing just so the big companies can make money
 
Also, Sony has left the option for the game devs to make restrictions like before, so it won't be "ultra consumer friendly" with the greedy companies suffering - they can still make online passes and people with used games having to buy them if they want online play, which is a good medium position unlike the extreme microsoft measures. On the other hand, Sony has made the ps4 ultra indie developer friendly and I can bet that in just few years there will be a ton of great ps4 exclusive indie games
 

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