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post #316 of 1920

Might have been from here: http://detail.tmall.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.3.w17-435427134.18.oIjSI8&id=20170263557&#

 

I am not sure if they deliver internationally though.

post #317 of 1920
Am I the only one that finds the ear guides extremely uncomfortable? Maybe it is just because I'm not sure to them or because I have a different kind-of ear shape but they don't really stay on my ear well. I'm preferring my VSD1's down instead of up and that is weird for me.
post #318 of 1920

Well, it turns out that the VSD1's make great cycling buddies for me! Worn over the ears they fit very well, stay in place, and wind sound is minimized. They isolate just the right amount (ie not tooooo much), and they sound great! 

 

So, I love them for cycling. And due to their flush fit, I love them for falling asleep with, and for using under earmuffs (ie when cutting the lawn etc). So, they are proving to be very useful :) 

 

The only problem is that I am wearing them over the ears more than down, and I need to find another version of rockbox for my clip zip that accommodates channel swapping (assuming it exists)!

post #319 of 1920
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Originally Posted by Vain III View Post

Am I the only one that finds the ear guides extremely uncomfortable? Maybe it is just because I'm not sure to them or because I have a different kind-of ear shape but they don't really stay on my ear well. I'm preferring my VSD1's down instead of up and that is weird for me.

Yeah, the ear guides are too hard and I also don't like them but the cable is soft and isn't springy, so if I want to wear them over-the-ear I don't need to use the guides. 

 

Anyway, I've been busy lately (this time not with drinking), so didn't have much spare time to spend with the VSD1 and I did promise to compare it to gr04 flagship. I I tried with quite a bit of tips but in the end I think I like it the most with the mh1c's, sony hybrids and the stock single-flanges. Swapping the tips back and forth also made me realize that it wasn't the burn-in that tamed the bass noticeably but the mh1c's tips. It is a touch tamer with them and also the sound is a bit more neutral and has less weight in the note presentation than with the stock single-flanges.

 

The bass still isn't the fastest or tightest. It's more in line with the bass of mh1c but maybe a hair tighter and is less in quantity (still quite dominant), which is nice because while it still can get a tad boomy, especially with the stock single-flanges I find it way more under control and enjoyable than the sony's. Still has great impact and I like it more than the vc02's, gr02be's or the gr06's In comparison the gr04fe's bass is less in quantity but is tighter and faster and more in line with the gr07's speed. It rolls-off a bit early though while the VSD1's extends well really low.

 

The mids are slightly warm but can get a bit more neutral with the mh1c's tips. Still very smooth and  with good clarity. I would say they are better than the mh1c's mids as they are closer to neutral. In comparison, the gr04fe's mids are a bit more forward and are more aggressive. They also boast better clarity and separation.

 

The treble is relatively smooth. I'm not particularly sensitive to sibilance, so I'll say that it can probably get very very slightly sibilant at times. In comparison the mh1c's treble is smoother but less pronounced and can be slightly dull even if you remove some of the foam inside the nozzles. The gr04fe's treble is also really smooth and is also less pronounced than the VSD1's and rolls -off slightly early like with its bass. And I have to say I like the VSD1's more.

 

The VSD1's soundstage as I said before is relatively wide. It is a bit wider than the mh1c's one and quite a bit bigger than the gr04fe's, which has more of an intimate soundstage due to it's mid-centric presentation. In the depth department though the VSD1 isn't anything special and I'll say the mh1c is better in that regard.

 

Overall, the VSD1 is a great bang for buck performer. I like it more than the very popular mh1c but as far as the gr04 flagship goes I'll say they might be on-par coz I like my bass' speed and control and my mids but the VSD1 has its strong points. For the sub-$100 region though I still prefer the meelec a161p more but I decided it will be unfair to compare the VSD1 to it as it boils down to personal preferences and I've said before that I like the a161p more than the gr07, which doesn't leave much chance for the VSD1 to win LOL

post #320 of 1920
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Originally Posted by kova4a View Post

Overall, the VSD1 is a great bang for buck performer. I like it more than the very popular mh1c but as far as the gr04 flagship goes I'll say they might be on-par coz I like my bass' speed and control and my mids but the VSD1 has its strong points. For the sub-$100 region though I still prefer the meelec a161p more but I decided it will be unfair to compare the VSD1 to it as it boils down to personal preferences and I've said before that I like the a161p more than the gr07, which doesn't leave much chance for the VSD1 to win LOL

 

Great impressions kova4a! Thanks! Now off I go, looking into whatever those a161p's are lol!

post #321 of 1920
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Great impressions kova4a! Thanks! Now off I go, looking into whatever those a161p's are lol!

Well, it all comes down to personal preferences as with everything else. The a161p's presentation is more in line with the gr04fe's but there's just something about that bass in combination with those mids. The a161p's bass is just on another level in comparison to the mh1c, VSD1, gr04fe and most of the other iems in that price range I've heard and I've always been impressed with the amount, punch and speed that single BA driver can throw at me. And given that lately it's relatively often discounted to circa $70 it's really hard to beat it in the bang for buck department IMO. Of course it has its shortcomings like the thin cables that can get microphonic (especially if you have a beard), the average soundstage and finally the fact that it's presentation might not be to everyone's liking.


Edited by kova4a - 6/9/13 at 7:18pm
post #322 of 1920
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Well, it all comes down to personal preferences as with everything else. The a161p's presentation is more in line with the gr04fe's but there's just something about that bass in combination with those mids. The a161p's bass is just on another level in comparison to the mh1c, VSD1, gr04fe and most of the other iems in that price range I've heard and I've always been impressed with the amount, punch and speed that single BA driver can throw at me. And given that lately it's relatively often discounted to circa $70 it's really hard to beat it in the bang for buck department IMO. Of course it has its shortcomings like the thin cables that can get microphonic (especially if you have a beard), the average soundstage and finally the fact that it's presentation might not be to everyone's liking.

 

They sound good! Here's an innerfidelity article about them that is favourable as well.

post #323 of 1920
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They sound good! Here's an innerfidelity article about them that is favourable as well.

Yeah, I just saw joker's earphone buyer's guide and he actually has included the a161p, which is nice as it never actually got on the hype train and has been quite neglected. Hopefully the VSD1 will be in that guide too some day biggrin.gif I think that the VSD1's signature will be more to ClieOS liking though, so it might end up high in his comparison list.

post #324 of 1920
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Originally Posted by kova4a View Post

 

Overall, the VSD1 is a great bang for buck performer. I like it more than the very popular mh1c but as far as the gr04 flagship goes I'll say they might be on-par coz I like my bass' speed and control and my mids but the VSD1 has its strong points. For the sub-$100 region though I still prefer the meelec a161p more but I decided it will be unfair to compare the VSD1 to it as it boils down to personal preferences and I've said before that I like the a161p more than the gr07, which doesn't leave much chance for the VSD1 to win LOL

Thanks for the very detailed and great comparison. And now I'm one step closer to buy the VSD1 :-)

post #325 of 1920
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Thanks for the very detailed and great comparison. And now I'm one step closer to buy the VSD1 :-)

No problem. Also I can totally see the VSD1 appealing to a lot of people, especially those who liked the mh1c but found it hard to deal with its drawbacks like the flat j-cord cable and the issues with moisture, or needed to tape the vent or remove some of the foam from the nozzles to tame the bass a bit and bring a tad more treble in.

post #326 of 1920
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No problem. Also I can totally see the VSD1 appealing to a lot of people, especially those who liked the mh1c but found it hard to deal with its drawbacks like the flat j-cord cable and the issues with moisture, or needed to tape the vent or remove some of the foam from the nozzles to tame the bass a bit and bring a tad more treble in.

 

That is great to hear, i love my sony mh1c but fit can be bothersome and the cable is just terrible. Do the vsd1 beat your fxd70's for clarity?

post #327 of 1920

Just noticed joker has added a review of the sony mh1c and did a little comparison with the vsd1:

 

'The VSD1 was released as a budget version of VSonic’s popular GR07 model, providing a less analytical sound than the VC02 but retaining its technical performance. In comparison to the MH1C, the VSD1 is less bassy, boasting better overall balance and more neutral tone. Bass quality is similar between the two but the VSD1 is a touch clearer overall and boasts more treble presence. As with the pricier GR07, its treble does have a slight predisposition towards sibilance in comparison to the buttery-smooth MH1C. The soundstage is a touch wider with the VSD1 and again the VSonic is noticeably more sensitive than the Sony.'

 

Tbh the vsd1 sounds like my perfect sig, cant wait for these to arrive.

post #328 of 1920
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That is great to hear, i love my sony mh1c but fit can be bothersome and the cable is just terrible. Do the vsd1 beat your fxd70's for clarity?

Well, my fxd70 has been on a loan for quite a while and I never got much into it because of its fit, so I'm going by memory  but the fxd70 has a bit better clarity due to the tighter bass, the more present treble and on top of that the thinner note presentation. With that said the VSD1's mids are smoother, still have very good clarity and sound a lot more natural and I really like how it handles vocals, especially male ones but it handles female vocals pretty good too.

post #329 of 1920
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And...how do you compare your VSD1 to those JVC´s?

 

Thanks a lot.

Right now listening, to my ears the VSD1 is more forward, more intimate, female vocals are fantastic, i find myself picking out details easier and to me he sound is more energetic.

 

The Jvc is a bit more airy and open, bass seems a bit more recessed, seems to be a wamer sound perhaps a touch recessed.

 

Clear winner on this song is the VDS1's, the do female vocals so well.

 

So on with trance.

 

 

Bass hits a touch more on the Jvc almost bloated, VSD1 providing good low end grunt with some really good authority, right on the borderline on becoming ott.

Again Jvc providing a good airy sound, and still a touch laid back though vocals come through nice enough.

The clarity and forwardness more than makes up for any lack of airyness that the Jvc's beat them on, but if im honest it's not that big a difference.

 

The VSD1 can be sibilant, but it's slight, any decent source will keep this to a minimum. The Jvc's have a touch more sparkle which is nice, but that laid back nature steals it away for me.

 

The biggest deal for me, the VSD1's clearly get my toes tapping, the FXD80's not so much, producing your typical cnt driven sound which is a touch darker.

 


Edited by Huxley - 6/10/13 at 8:52am
post #330 of 1920

Do the  tenore's have faster bass or do the VSD1's have faster bass?

From what I have read so far the VSD1 is good if you want thumping bass and Tenore's for airy and sub bass.

I listen to mostly 135bpm+ trance so prefer faster IEMs.

 


Edited by nekromantik - 6/10/13 at 10:18am
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