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Poll Results: stronger natural midrange

This is a multiple choice poll
  • 32% (30)
    hifiman he-400
  • 42% (39)
    fidelio x1
  • 15% (14)
    sennheiser hd 598
  • 13% (12)
    akg q701
92 Total Votes  
post #151 of 185
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Originally Posted by Okamoto View Post

Did you get the HE-500? How do you compare them against the HE-400?

 

I'm waiting mine to arrive.

I was but ended up with the hd 650.

post #152 of 185
How?
post #153 of 185
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Originally Posted by davidsh View Post

How?

I got some modded t50rp and ended up anxiously buying the 650. Its satisfying though the bass doesn't go low enough but the mids are keeping me from selling and saving for the he500

post #154 of 185
You didn't like the t50rp?
post #155 of 185
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Originally Posted by davidsh View Post

You didn't like the t50rp?

yes I did actually. I prefer the mids of the hd650 but the modded t50rp actually sounded really good with better extension in the bass though not as much sub bass.

post #156 of 185
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Originally Posted by grizzlybeast View Post

yes I did actually. I prefer the mids of the hd650 but the modded t50rp actually sounded really good with better extension in the bass though not as much sub bass.

I have both the hd650 and the modded t50rp

post #157 of 185
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Originally Posted by grizzlybeast View Post

I have both the hd650 and the modded t50rp

considering selling both to grab the he-500. I am getting really curious.

post #158 of 185

Dunno if that is a good idea. What exactly do you expect from them? Again, what is it that you listen to?

post #159 of 185
IIRC, R&B, reggae.

Love the HE500 but not for those genres. Not enough punchy mid-bass. Skip the HE500 and just get an LCD2. The first revision especially will give you more mid and bass quantity and sometimes found a lot cheaper used than the second revision.
post #160 of 185
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Originally Posted by davidsh View Post

Dunno if that is a good idea. What exactly do you expect from them? Again, what is it that you listen to?

I think it was you that recommended both the he-500 and lcd2. I can drive both fine and for now I am okay with what I have. I just want more extension on both ends. I really like the hd650 mids. I have been listening to a lot of different music styles lately. But like Drheadphone said those are my main genres.

 

Here are some examples. I didnt mean to open a new can of worms here. People told me that the hd650 would be boring and I dont think so at all. I find the x1 more boring. Just because something has bass doesnt make it engaging to me. Its the sound as a whole. However the modded t50rp is missing the midbass of the hd650. So far the hd650 is the closest to what I am looking for minus a little seperation and bass extension. It's bass pressence is fine for me.

https://soundcloud.com/#crebarchek/take-the-world-but-give-me

https://soundcloud.com/#flyinglotus/code-of-ethnics-2

https://soundcloud.com/#sphereofhiphop/beautiful-eulogy-anchor-feat-josh-garrels

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGnp-gfSLQ0

(these are the styles but with wav files)

 

If I could take a German maestro 8.35d and give it a touch of air and an open sound and just a hair more details I would have the perfect hp for me. Its dark, forward, reaches really low but not bass emphasised. When bass boosted it can thump on songs it needs to without drowning the mids. But can be sibilant at times. 

 

I guess I should skip the he-500 if the mid bass isnt there. I would just keep the hd650 then.

 

Why can't i just go somewhere in Portland OR and hear them!


 

Thanks for the advice on the revision 1's. The t50 mod I have is tuned to sound like the he-500 actually. It's bass is there but not that good for hip hop etc. I still really like it as a headphone though. But yeah if what I getting from selling the hd650 in buying the he-500 was the same tonal balance then maybe you guys are right.

If i can't find them at a good price Ill prob keep the hd650 and just get the germans again(martyred for an amp)

 

I just gave up on the rev1 because I heard the rev2's were a lot better. Then everything I found selling in my price range disappeared.


Edited by grizzlybeast - 7/11/13 at 6:49pm
post #161 of 185
Either revision of the LCD2 would be fine for your musical preference. I just prefer the Rev 1 for its slightly more intimate mids. The Rev 2's improves the soundstaging a bit. Either way, the SQ is high on both and the differences are really negligible for the type music you listen to. It doesn't hurt that the Rev 1 is usually sold cheaper in the S/T forum. Just keep an eye out.

The HD650 is a fine go-to headphone. The next logical step up is the LCD2 but enjoy the HD650 knowing it is only half the LCD cost. Lol!
Edited by drheadphone - 7/11/13 at 7:52pm
post #162 of 185

I doubt you will miss out in the bass department with the HE-500. How did you find the 400's bass? Cuz the 500 bass is almost as prominent... Especially when you have the emotiva, it is said to get super powerswink_face.gif

 

I think you should wait for a good offer to appear on something that seems appealing. I tend not to buy gear at full prices at any time unless it is something that I really want. Be open, be aware.

 

Actually, I'm not sure the 500 is up ur alley. I think you might want more aggressive and prominent mids than they deliver.

post #163 of 185
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Originally Posted by davidsh View Post

I doubt you will miss out in the bass department with the HE-500. How did you find the 400's bass? Cuz the 500 bass is almost as prominent... Especially when you have the emotiva, it is said to get super powerswink_face.gif

 

I think you should wait for a good offer to appear on something that seems appealing. I tend not to buy gear at full prices at any time unless it is something that I really want. Be open, be aware.

 

Actually, I'm not sure the 500 is up ur alley. I think you might want more aggressive and prominent mids than they deliver.

I found the he-400's bass sufficient. It was better than the hd650 imho. The mids of the hd650 I know are going to be a hard find. But if they are as good as the t50rp I would be okay. But I think overall the he500 may leave me in want at times. So you are right!

 

Ideal situation would be to buy the bamboo lcd2 rev2 brand new and call it a day(just because I love the feeling of new products) But I am a bit aways from that being reality at this point.

post #164 of 185

Since many people say HE-500's bass is very close to HE-400's, I don't think you should worry about it.

post #165 of 185
No hurry tongue.gif
When you aren't looking for something specific, irresistible offers will pop up now and then.
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