The Fiio X5 Thread
May 28, 2014 at 1:35 AM Post #9,887 of 19,652
 
Just a general comment that may have some merit.  I wonder what the correlation would be between the number of people previously owning and using "audiophile DAPs", then going to the X5 and having reasonably hassle free experiences.
 
VS the people coming from more mainstream DAPs / sources (eg Apple etc) who maybe are experiencing more issues.
 
If there is a correlation - it may point to the fact that most who've come from DAPs like the Studio Anniversary V3 are very aware of having to have meticulously tagged libraries with no extraneous entries or fields.  So generally our libraries may not have the same issues being experienced by others?
 
Would be interesting to know.  Even with majority of my music being albums ripped by me (around 300-350), and the balance having tags from HD Tracks, iTunes, Bandcamp, and several other digital sources - I was astounded at the number of duplicate type tags there were before I tidied my database.
 
It just seems strange that several of us who've had to tidy our libraries up to work with other devices are also experiencing no real issues with scanning / performance.
 
Just a thought - not sure if true or relevant ......
 

Well... X5 is my first hi-res dap, I was using my iphone for portable music before, so I don't really have much experience with DAPs, but what I can say is that I've always paid good attention to my music's tags and even more so with the X5. I just wanted to have all my music well organized and nicely and consistently tagged. I even spent the first Saturday after I got my X5, checking and fixing tags, album arts, etc. And this has paid off and I am having pretty pleasurable and painless time with my X5 ...
 
May 28, 2014 at 2:03 AM Post #9,888 of 19,652
   
The problem with quick A/B comparison - especially if you don't know the headphones well - often lies in:
 - improper volume matching
 - unfamiliarity with a headphones signature.
 
If you don't volume match both headphones - the one that is slightly louder will often be perceived as better.  So in this case - if you have the buds volume louder than the fsp - they may sound similar to you, when in fact there is a world of difference.  The only way to accurately match is with an SPL meter and test tones.
 
And secondly, if you rapidly A/B two headphones without spending enough time with each, it's often very hard to really understand SQ differences.  Your brain needs time to 'acclimatise' to the new sound signature.  If you are used to the buds, but not used to the fsp, then switch rapidly between both - you may find you prefer the SQ of the buds as that is what you're used to.  My advice - wear the fsp for a couple of days - then switch to the buds, and see if you then notice a bigger difference.  Often it's more apparent once our ears/brain have adjusted.
 
Hope this helps

 
Thanks a lot for your answer
I had lot of time to listen from this player and these earbuds so mybrain as you say it didn't get use to the earbuds
i wear both of them and hear no difference, i don't know what to say
and i did what you suggest me, no difference, i have to visit a doctor
 
it's a huge price difference between them, the only solution if i bought the x5 and see there if there is the same "problem"
 
May 28, 2014 at 2:13 AM Post #9,889 of 19,652
  I answered you on the HD600 thread - but here it is again .....
 
You'll get all sorts of answers to this one 
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From my personal testing when I had the tour unit - I loved both my HD600 and DT880 (250 ohm) with the X5 when I had it (I used high gain).  I guess the difference between myself and some others is that when comparing, I carefully matched volumes with an SPL meter and a test tone.  I noticed no significant loss in dynamics.
 
I am purchasing the X5 - should be here in a couple of weeks.  I ordered it mostly because of it's versatility with both IEMs and full range cans.  It would probably struggle with anything very high impedance or very low sensitivity - but IMO it's great with the HD600.  They're not that hard to drive anyway. 

thanks man, I think, I need to sell my modi/vali and get a X5 and dt880 
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May 28, 2014 at 3:10 AM Post #9,890 of 19,652
I have to admit that I'm kind of jealous of all the attention the X3 has been given recently. Makes me wish I didn't sell mine simply to hear/see the changes.

Some great reception so far for FW3.0, including reports of improved SQ. I hope Fiio also includes some of us for future X5 beta FW testing as it seems to have paid off.
 
May 28, 2014 at 4:07 AM Post #9,891 of 19,652
I have to admit that I'm kind of jealous of all the attention the X3 has been given recently. Makes me wish I didn't sell mine simply to hear/see the changes.

Some great reception so far for FW3.0, including reports of improved SQ. I hope Fiio also includes some of us for future X5 beta FW testing as it seems to have paid off.


According to James now developers time will be shared for both X3 and X5, so both units will receive future updates.

I'm glad I didn't give up on my X3, so nice to see how much they improved it.
 
May 28, 2014 at 8:37 AM Post #9,896 of 19,652
  Hello ppl, i have a coupkle of questions.
 
Does the X5 works as an usb DAC on windows 8.1 64bit? How it performs compared to an e17/dragonfly?
 
Also, does the V Moda BoomPro work with it?

 
1st Q - Yes, it will works under Windows 8.1 64bit as I have tried it myself. However, it is a bit more complicated as the driver isn't signed by Microsoft yet and so it needs to be installed with the driver signature disabled (see this). The good news is that you only need to do it once (at least until the next driver update).
 
2nd Q - I don't know about Dragonfly, but it is definitely better than E17.
 
3rd Q - No. It is a pure DAC, not a ADC which the BoomPro needs.
 
May 28, 2014 at 8:38 AM Post #9,897 of 19,652
Well... X5 is my first hi-res dap, I was using my iphone for portable music before, so I don't really have much experience with DAPs, but what I can say is that I've always paid good attention to my music's tags and even more so with the X5. I just wanted to have all my music well organized and nicely and consistently tagged. I even spent the first Saturday after I got my X5, checking and fixing tags, album arts, etc. And this has paid off and I am having pretty pleasurable and painless time with my X5 ...


+1
Same here. X5 is my first hi-res DAP, coming from iPod 5G + E11. I've always paid close attention to my music tags too...and having a very good experience with my X5.
 
May 28, 2014 at 9:12 AM Post #9,898 of 19,652
You pop in asking for advice and some was given rather quickly based on what details you provided. Then you blow a gasket and 'wash your hands of it' over a relatively minor task. Many, many users are enjoying the X5 problem free from day one, and most (if not all) problems have been user error or card related. Also, a lot of people would agree its worth it.

Whatever, you have your gauge for tolerances and that's fine. Good luck.

Edit: Apologies, bad day. Hope you find what suits you.


As you eventually realized, the tf card WAS formatted in the X5 and the problem persists, so simply reformatting the card and reloading my library is NOT the solution. I did it again last night to be sure, and now MOST ALL of my 96khz and 192khz files "stutter".

Note: I've had this X5 for over a month now and it worked flawlessly up until a few days ago when it started this absurd stuttering effect. I have added NO new files to the TF card in at least a week -- IE: days before the problem surfaced. FiiO, please offer a solution!!!
I certainly hope I am not stuck with an unusable device now that my Amazon return period has expired.

PS: if it seems I don't have a lot of patience for these problems, it has a lot to do with the fact that I bought an X3 at Christmas and had a terrible experience with it and FiiO support told me to return it as defective. This, however, was only suggested after weeks of back-and-forth trying to pin the blame on other problems, like card formatting, firmware, or bad files, etc. so -- no -- I don't have much patience for this new problem that has spontaneously developed on what was up to now a great device.

So FiiO, it's up to you now to tell me why this is happening and offer a solution. Thank you.
 

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