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post #2221 of 3455
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Originally Posted by stvn758 View Post
 

I have Ultrasone 2500's, I have to say the more I try other headphones the more I love my Ultrasone's, they seem to play all types of music well where as these and the Grado HF-2's play certain types better than others. I have two 300 disc players so I just spin around every type of music with reckless abandon.

 

Thanks for your comment stvn758.

 

Would you agree with this opinion:

"[...] the Pro 2900s offer even more detail than the K 701s, along with very precise imaging and a wide soundstage rivaling that of the HD 800s, as well as very good bass extension and impact.

[...]

So, even though I am inclined to the detail, wide soundstage, and accurate imaging of the K 701s, I still want to have some bass extension to feel the body of the music.[...]

they [the Pro 2900] appear to me as though they would achieve everything the K 701s do greatly, and even better, as well as provide what the K 701s lack in bass extension, impact, and sheer body.[...]"

 

(excerpt of a brief review @ http://www.soundstagexperience.com/index.php/letters-menu/360-ultrasone-pro-2900s-against-everything-else)

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I love the Ultrasone Soundstage, having just tried the 712's they are very open sounding but the way the Ultrasones place instruments and sounds, it sounds more deliberate for want of a better word. Whether all that happens by just putting the driver lower down, vocals are so much better I think than the 712's, voices sound very real. The Senn 800's are way out of my price league and my memories of my HD600's are quite fond, they also played everything well I recall.

post #2223 of 3455

Bottom-line:

The K712 is a modded Q701 dressed up in a black & orange Kick-Ass suit... :D

Super hero headphone wannabe... :p

post #2224 of 3455
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Originally Posted by ComradeDylie View Post

Noooo dooooont send it back. Gg. Wow, easiest mod to balanced ever if the connector took itself out.
Lol way to make lemonade out of lemons, positive thinking right there!
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Originally Posted by jbarrentine View Post

No idea why they would outsource the Q701 and keep other stuff in Austria. Maybe they are going to move everything to china and are testing. 
I'm not going to say this is the only reason, but have you seen the price that the Q701 is selling for these days? They cut costs to keep making profit, so they're using the cheap labor of China (why any company manufactures in China). This doesn't necessarily mean a drop in quality... it could include, but not definitely a worse headphone. I believe the K701 and Q701 are being made in China now.
Meanwhile, the K712 is still made in Austria.
post #2225 of 3455
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Originally Posted by Evshrug View Post



I believe the K701 and Q701 are being made in China now.

Meanwhile, the K712 is still made in Austria.

 
AKG pro headphones product line 2013 (check 1st row):
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7985007/Head-Fi/AKG/AKG%20Pro%20Headphones%20Line%202013%20-%20Specs.pdf

post #2226 of 3455

Yes, but most interesting is perhaps the "3D Form Gel-Ohrpolster" that the k712 and the annie shares. I bet these gel-earpads are the same as these, only these look angled http://www.thomann.de/dk/akg_k_702_gel_ear_pad.htm?sid=89228dc021fba6c5d644f14fcc830059

So perhaps a little surprise is waiting to be discovered: angled k712 pads...

post #2227 of 3455
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Originally Posted by emertxe View Post
 

K712 Pro are well worth even 500USD, I said it many times... There is absolutely no way I would call Q701 superior. Better sound and better comfort - I would take them over LCD-2 and some other headphones as well. They are really good and versatile.

 

Yes, they are NOT on the level of HD800... But still, I must recommend them, they are REALLY good...

 

It's not that Q701 are technically worse, they are absolutely in the same league... It's the fact that previous 701/702 headphones (not the Annies) sounded very unnatural and pretty much lacked bass (again, I am not a basshead, I find HD800s bass to be the best I've heard so far). K712 Pro fixed the bass issue and made upper mids to treble section sound almost nonproblematic.

 

Q701 already did this, but it wasn't enough for everyone I guess.

IMO the Q701 improved on these things compared to the K702.

The upper mids aren't really any smoother or less fatiguing on the K712 IMO. If it's the recordings fault it's still there. They won't touch that.

It actually took me maybe 5 hours to actually find a track where something was actually smoother on the K712.

The Q701 or K712 never made things worse.

 

Like I keep saying some things are worse on the K712 and others it's the Q701. I actually found the Q701 less fatiguing. Q701 has some slightly forward upper mids and the K712 has very slightly more forward low mids..take your pick.

 

AKG could release a Q701 PRO, which is basically a Q701 with the bass port open. Maybe build it in Austria (it being made in China is OK to me) and include more extras. No memory foam pads to keep the costs down. $250-$300 sounds good.

 

I'd definitely suggest the K712 for those that prefer more bass and warmth. But honestly IMO this stuff about it being much smoother and more forgiving isn't really true at all. I think AKG didn't actually FIX anything on the upper mids except gave it new pads.

 

The very full mids of the K712 are addicting though. I hope AKG can reduce the price a little and then i'd consider it.

 

If it ever drops to $325 I might suggest it over the Q701 if they can't mod a Q701. Maybe someone will have a Black Friday sale on the K712. Not likely! Maybe Amazon will if they even sell them.

post #2228 of 3455
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Originally Posted by Evshrug View Post


Lol way to make lemonade out of lemons, positive thinking right there!
I'm not going to say this is the only reason, but have you seen the price that the Q701 is selling for these days? They cut costs to keep making profit, so they're using the cheap labor of China (why any company manufactures in China). This doesn't necessarily mean a drop in quality... it could include, but not definitely a worse headphone. I believe the K701 and Q701 are being made in China now.
Meanwhile, the K712 is still made in Austria.

 

I bought a set of Q701's only about 2 weeks ago.

They're made in Austria.

post #2229 of 3455
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Originally Posted by zazex View Post
 

 

I bought a set of Q701's only about 2 weeks ago.

They're made in Austria.

 

I don't know about Q's, but I confirmed with an authorized dealer that the latest K701's are no longer made in Austria. I've also heard of Chinese-made Q701's as well- there was a post here about two months ago about a green pair without the "Made in Austria" logo on the earcups.

 

Might be that you got an older stock.

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Originally Posted by viralcow View Post

I don't know about Q's, but I confirmed with an authorized dealer that the latest K701's are no longer made in Austria. I've also heard of Chinese-made Q701's as well- there was a post here about two months ago about a green pair without the "Made in Austria" logo on the earcups.

Might be that you got an older stock.

I am just kind of worried that they are the fake version!
post #2231 of 3455
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Originally Posted by BillsonChang007 View Post


I am just kind of worried that they are the fake version!

I bought my Q701s direct from Amazon (UK) last month - they also have Made in Austria written on them.

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Originally Posted by darrenyeats View Post

I bought my Q701s direct from Amazon (UK) last month - they also have Made in Austria written on them.

But the "Made-In-China" version
post #2233 of 3455

I don't understand that.

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Originally Posted by darrenyeats View Post

I don't understand that.

Nevermind haha xD
post #2235 of 3455

Ah, irony! (Doing my Sheldon impersonation.)

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