jake120 said:

Cant say I agree with some of his comments they seem generic to me and underwhelming the intelligence of the average consumer...

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The average consumer is incredibly dumb. The only way to support the economy is buying things, therefore having educated consumers will lead to another crisis.
Perhaps consumers need protection to some degree but eventually they need to learn on their own, the hard way, to be responsible with their money.

Marketing target primal needs: desire, lust, envy, but that's another story.

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kamijoismyhero said:

He's overall seems like a cool dude, been watching his vids every now and then for the past few months so he comes across as very humble dude in how he handles his channel and his viewpoints representing an average consumer

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I agree, and even if i don't agree with everything he's saying, i think that he could teach a thing or two to some audiophiles here on Head-Fi regarding moderation, and tolerence. Altough i prefer the sound signature of Grado headphones, i'd never hate on Audeze, Hi-Fi Man, Sennz.or any other brands. I think that they all make good sounding headphones, but in the end, we all have to make a choice, and mine might be different than yours, so what! 
 
I have never tryed Beats, so i can't comment on them, at least not on how they sound. And as far as looks goes, i couldn't care less about how headphones look, what matters to me, is sound and comfort.  
 
And about the average consumer buying Beats because they don't know any better, as far as i'm concern,that excuse doesn't fly, not with a wealth of informations just a few mouse cliks away.
 
The way i see it, there is no right or wrong here, just different people, with different taste, who own different headphones. I try to look at the big pictrue, and concentrate on what we have in commeon, wich is the love of music.

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tsujigiri said:

 
Appearance and advertising can be powerful psychological primers when you don't know indicators to look for to determine quality. Without any knowledge to make sense of what they were hearing, they probably just reverted back to what they've been told on tv.

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Yes who would doubt the Dr.?  

The most prominent charlatan "doctor" since Dr. Phil lol.

Dr. Phil is a charlatan doctor?  

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the sound effect of sighing lol

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your one of those funny guy
 
I also think part of the reason why I didn't get as good of a response was that they never heard of D2000 and they came listening with a negative thought before listening and I'm sure the size didn't help form that negativity.  Well the bright side is they found the pads comfortable and they thought it sounded good (maybe they are saying to comfort me ). Man, did they Studio get pass around quick though. Oh they also commented by say "Why would they have such a long wire". It was entertaining never the less.  To be honest, I think they were interested in check out the Studio because they want to know or see what the hype is about.
 
I can see the hate in this forum though, as the beat represent something complete different from what it means here.

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your one of those funny guy

 
I also think part of the reason why I didn't get as good of a response was that they never heard of D2000 and they came listening with a negative thought before listening and I'm sure the size didn't help form that negativity.  Well the bright side is they found the pads comfortable and they thought it sounded good (maybe they are saying to comfort me

). Man, did they Studio get pass around quick though. Oh they also commented by say "Why would they have such a long wire". It was entertaining never the less.  To be honest, I think they were interested in check out the Studio because they want to know or see what the hype is about.
 
I can see the hate in this forum though, as the beat represent something complete different from what it means here.

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thank you  and yes since audio is really subjective, having a negative mindset before listening can cause a negative impression easily, at least thats what i believe

Yep, I'd call it the "reverse placebo effect." You see something that looks like it was made in the 1970's from a brand you've never heard of, you instantly expect it to be crap, and audition it with that mindset. So, no matter how accurate the sound, it's going to get a negative reaction from everyone.

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jasper9395 said:

I don't care that so many people buy beats, they are just expensive fashion accessories. What annoys me is a lot of people who own them think their beats are very good, top of the line in terms of sound quality. 

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+ a billion

UrAvgConsumer - LOL

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mrtechagent said:

UrAvgConsumer - LOL

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When I saw that as the most recent post from just skimming the Headphone threads, I thought that the post was FROM UrAvgConsumer, and I thought to myself: "UrAvgConsumer is on Head-Fi; God hates us all."

That guy read our last thread on beats and just made a video out of it, down to the watches comparison. An exact damn copy.... Of the entire thread.

lol.

Well, I 've listened to a demo of all the beats headphone, and I  didn't find they deserve hate.
It's true they target consumers, they do a rough job at being pleasing, and for those looking for more refinement,  just buy a more audiophile headphone.
It's not the kind of headphones that you have to "decipher", to understand all the subtleties, and why it's worth to listen.
I  wasn't impressed by the bass at all, buy I  enjoyed the amount.
It's the difference between a Häagen-Dazs ice cream, and one bought at mac donalds:
the Häagen-Dazs introduce subtle flavors,  while the one from the mac, you can't complain there's not enough sugar.

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Well, I 've listened to a demo of all the beats headphone, and I  didn't find they deserve hate.
It's true they target consumers, they do a rough job at being pleasing, and for those looking for more refinement,  just buy a more audiophile headphone.
It's not the kind of headphones that you have to "decipher", to understand all the subtleties, and why it's worth to listen.
I  wasn't impressed by the bass at all, buy I  enjoyed the amount.
It's the difference between a Häagen-Dazs ice cream, and one bought at mac donalds:
the Häagen-Dazs introduce subtle flavors,  while the one from the mac, you can't complain there's not enough sugar.

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i think its more hated for how its being marketed. its being marketed as the best headphone which is... I have also demoed some of them, didn't find them particularly horrible but also nothing special that wows me... for the price, one can get something better, that's for certain. and for the record, about the 2 hated brands, I also prefer the bose than beats.  

He kept saying Seinheiser, instead if sennheiser, that pissed me off.

This is the 13th beats hate thread I've posted in. It's about time for me to not care anymore.