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Most POWERFUL DAC/Amp all-in-one?

post #1 of 58
2/26/13 at 4:51pm
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Looking for the most powerful DAC/Amp "all-in-one". Any suggestions? So far it's looking like the Burson Conductor but that bad boy costs $1,850.00.... Hopefully something as powerful but not as expensive? Under $1200.00? 

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post #2 of 58
2/26/13 at 6:35pm

Xonar Essence One Muses

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post #3 of 58
2/26/13 at 6:41pm

I love the amp/DAC combos but IMO, it's best to find a great amp and to get a seperate DAC because digital conversion technology keeps getting better but amp technology remains stable. A great amp from 40 years ago is still amazing even by todays standards. 

 

DAC or  digital technology changes and is not as stable as amp technology.

 

But either way, it's all fine. If you can find a good DAC/amp single unit, it's great and worthy of the audiophile community. 


Edited by Spareribs - 2/26/13 at 6:42pm
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post #4 of 58
2/26/13 at 8:45pm
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I love the amp/DAC combos but IMO, it's best to find a great amp and to get a seperate DAC because digital conversion technology keeps getting better but amp technology remains stable. A great amp from 40 years ago is still amazing even by todays standards. 

 

Seconded. 

 

What about the Soloist + dac? 

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post #5 of 58
2/26/13 at 8:58pm
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I love the amp/DAC combos but IMO, it's best to find a great amp and to get a seperate DAC because digital conversion technology keeps getting better but amp technology remains stable. A great amp from 40 years ago is still amazing even by todays standards. 

 

DAC or  digital technology changes and is not as stable as amp technology.

 

But either way, it's all fine. If you can find a good DAC/amp single unit, it's great and worthy of the audiophile community. 

I hear you and under normal circumstance I'd be all over that. Problem is, I'm looking for an all-in-one. This is going to be transported from work, to home, to tailgate party, to workshop, and sometimes it will even be with me in my car.

 

It's going to get moved a lot, and there won't always be many available outlets where I'm going. The less stuff I have to plug in the better. The less stuff I have to hook up and un-hookup the better. wink.gif

 

@ OICWUTUDIDTHAR: Thanks for the suggestion. I'll look into that. smile.gif

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post #6 of 58
2/26/13 at 9:06pm
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Xonar Essence One Muses

Can't find a useful power rating (only volts). Any idea how many Watts this puts out at 32 ohm (or any Ohm?). 

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post #7 of 58
2/27/13 at 12:44am
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Looking for the most powerful DAC/Amp "all-in-one". Any suggestions? So far it's looking like the Burson Conductor but that bad boy costs $1,850.00.... Hopefully something as powerful but not as expensive? Under $1200.00? 

 

Check the NFB-27. 

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2/27/13 at 2:43am
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Check the NFB-27. 

Okay. Now we're talking. 

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6000MW /  50 ohm 

 3500MW  /  100 ohm

1200MW / 300 ohm

600 MW / 600 ohm
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post #9 of 58
2/27/13 at 3:44am
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Okay. Now we're talking. 

 

Becareful that it's the power in Balanced Mode.

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post #10 of 58
2/27/13 at 9:46am

If you want to save even more money the NFB-10 is a beast.

 

http://www.audio-gd.com/Pro/Headphoneamp/NFB-10.1/NFB10.1EN.htm

 

 

 

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9950MW /  25 ohm 
5950MW /  50 ohm 
 3300MW  /  100 ohm
1150MW / 300 ohm
590MW  /  600 ohm

 

Those outputs are in balanced mode.

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post #11 of 58
2/27/13 at 2:42pm
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If you want to save even more money the NFB-10 is a beast.

 

http://www.audio-gd.com/Pro/Headphoneamp/NFB-10.1/NFB10.1EN.htm

 

 

 

 

Those outputs are in balanced mode.

I really don't want to have to deal with changing my headphone cables to XLR. I just paid a lot of money for a new single ended cable. It looks like the most powerful All-in-one they make with unbalanced connectors is the NFB 15.32. I just sent them an email. Info is on the way. Thanks for the lead mates.  smile.gif

 

 

 

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Hello,
I am interested in buying the NFB-15.32, but I have a couple of questions first: 

1. How much is the price to ship to Cupertino, CA 95014 and how long will it take to get here? 

2. What is your return Policy? 
 
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post #12 of 58
2/27/13 at 2:56pm

Violectric amps put out some high voltage and have the option for internal DACs.

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post #13 of 58
2/27/13 at 3:02pm
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Violectric amps put out some high voltage and have the option for internal DACs.

Okay. I sent 'em an email. See what happens... Thanks. 

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post #14 of 58
2/27/13 at 3:08pm

http://www.violectric.de/Pages/en/technical-data.php

 

 

   

HPA V90

HPA V100

   HPA V181 

HPA V200
Unbalanced Inputs 2 2 2 2
Balanced Inputs 0 (2) (2) (2)
Impedance 10 kOhms 10 kOhms 10 kOhms 10 kOhms
Unbalanced Outputs 2 (2) (2) (2)
Balanced Outputs 0 0 0 0
Number of Channels 2 2 2 2
Nominal Input Level +6 dBu +6 dBu +6 dBu +6 dBu
Amplifier Gain 8 dB 8 dB 8 dB 8 dB
... with Pre-Gain -4/+2/+8/+14/+20 dB -4/+2/+8/+14/+20 dB  -4/+2/+8/+14/+20 dB -4/+2/+8/+14/+20 dB
Frequency Range (-0,5 dB) 5 Hz - 60 kHz 5 Hz - 60 kHz 5 Hz - 60 kHz    5 Hz - 60 kHz
Damping Factor (in 50 Ohm Load) 300 400 250 800
Dynamic Range (A-wtd) 126 dB 128 dB 128 dB 128 dB
Noise (A-wtd) -102 dB -100 dB -100 dB -100 dB
THD+N @ 10V / 100 Ohms (1W) -108 dB -109 dB -108 dB -110 dB
THD+N @ 4V / 32 Ohms (0,5W) -102 dB -103 dB -109 dB -103 dB
Crosstalk @ 1 kHz -110 dB -115 dB -115 dB -110 dB
Crosstalk @ 15 kHz -90 dB -95 dB -100 dB -95 dB
Output Voltage in 600 Ohms 20,9 Veff 19,6 V 20,2 V 18,5 V
Output Power in 600 Ohms 730 mW 640 mW 680 mW 570 mW
Output Voltage in 100 Ohms 15,2 V 14,5 V 16,6 V 14,8 V
Output Power in 100 Ohms 2300 mW 2100 mW 2700 mW 2200 mW
Output Voltage in 50 Ohms 9,4 V 10,5 V 10,2 11,6 V
Output Power in 50 Ohms 1780 mW 2200 mW 2100 mW 2700 mW
Output Voltage in 32 Ohms 6,4 V 7,4 V 7,9 V 8,0 V
Output Power in 32 Ohms 1300 mW 1700 mW 1950 mW 2000 mW
Output Voltage in 16 Ohms 3,0 V 3,5 V 4,5 V 4 Veff
Output Power in 16 Ohms 550 mW 780 mW 1250 mW 1000 mW
Number of Outputs 2 2     2
Power Supply 230 / 115 V 230 / 115 V     230 / 115 V
Power Consumption 7 VA 10 VA     10 VA
Dimensions (WxHxD) mm 170x49x126 170x49x225     170x49x225
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Okay. I sent 'em an email. See what happens... Thanks. 

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post #15 of 58
2/27/13 at 4:08pm
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http://www.violectric.de/Pages/en/technical-data.php

 

 

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Violectric amps put out some high voltage and have the option for internal DACs.

 
        

Thanks. And you say they can add an internal DAC to any of those models? Internally? In the same enclosure? That's crazy. I sent them an email. I think their Amps look cool. 


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