ALRAINBOW
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I agree with his reviews , as it's all connector anyway but I like his very much.
Al
Al
Let the flaming begin!
What's the problem with WA6 ? why would people flame you ?
I auditioned the Bryston BHA-1, Sennheiser HDVD800 and Naim DAC-V1 in pretty much every configuration. After 2 1/2 hours, I came to the following conclusion [note this only applies to me - YMMV]
I thanked my sales guy who has served me well for almost 20 years and went out empty handed.
- I found the Bryston BHA-1 way too sharp and extended in the high end for me. Not in a bad way but enough to know that I would be really unhappy with it in the long term. Mids and lows were sweet but I did not get much of a feeling of soundstage, maybe because the highs were a bother. Went back to it 2 other times in the session and found the same thing.
- I really, really wanted to like the HDVD800 but to be honest, I had a hard time telling the difference between it and the Naim. I spent a lot of time going back and forth between the Naim alone, the Senn alone and the Naim as a DAC for the Senn. If I had to do a blind test, I probably couldn't tell the difference between the setups other than the Senn may have had a touch more air/soundstage and maybe a touch richer in the mids. If I was starting from scratch and didn't have the Naim, it would be a toss up with the HDVD800 with points going to the Naim with Mac integration and the remote and points going to the Senn with multiple outputs.
As I was about to go home, I recall seeing that the Headfone Shop in Toronto started carrying Woo, specifically the WA6 and WA7. Thought I'd give the WA7 another listen so headed north. The setup this time was with the foster HPA8 as the DAC feeding the WA6 and WA7. Gave everything about 1/2 an hour to warm up as I listened and came to the following conclusions.
- Yup, did the right thing selling my original WA7. Sounded a bit thin and lifeless. Tried it a couple more times with various songs and came to the same conclusion.
- Only spent a few minutes with the HD800 plugged into the Fostex but long enough to realize that I was dealing with the Naim/Senn scenario again. Tried it a coupe of more times during the audition. Really, really nice but I wanted something different.
- Now, the WA6.. :blink:
This is different, not as clean and neutral as everything else, less deep bass extension, good highs with mid bass and mids to die for. Everything from Patricia Barber, Dire Straits to Deadmou5 to Enigma sounded richer and more engaging. Holy cr@p, everything I've read about the WA6 says no, not bad but nowhere near the ultimate, or even middle of the road for the HD800. Back and forth between the units, step out for a coffee, come back and the same thing. Kick butt mid-bass. Could be more precise and cleaner but it's not shy! I really like the WA6! Fun, engaging, forgiving of poorer recordings while providing them some life in the mid-bass and mid-range. Say it isn't so. OK, read that it really doesn't have enough power to drive the HD800 well. What? Cant get this thing past 1 o'clock without the ears bleeding and very comfortable at 11 o'clock. Out again for a think and back in with the credit card. Chinese rectifier, really shouldn't sound this good. Sophia Princess on order.
Well guys & gals, after 5+ hours of driving and auditioning, I ended up with something that I never thought I wound have. First, let me say that I not a neutral kind of guy and the ultimate of transparency and neutrality is not necessarily for me.
I auditioned the Bryston BHA-1, Sennheiser HDVD800 and Naim DAC-V1 in pretty much every configuration. After 2 1/2 hours, I came to the following conclusion [note this only applies to me - YMMV]
I thanked my sales guy who has served me well for almost 20 years and went out empty handed.
- I found the Bryston BHA-1 way too sharp and extended in the high end for me. Not in a bad way but enough to know that I would be really unhappy with it in the long term. Mids and lows were sweet but I did not get much of a feeling of soundstage, maybe because the highs were a bother. Went back to it 2 other times in the session and found the same thing.
- I really, really wanted to like the HDVD800 but to be honest, I had a hard time telling the difference between it and the Naim. I spent a lot of time going back and forth between the Naim alone, the Senn alone and the Naim as a DAC for the Senn. If I had to do a blind test, I probably couldn't tell the difference between the setups other than the Senn may have had a touch more air/soundstage and maybe a touch richer in the mids. If I was starting from scratch and didn't have the Naim, it would be a toss up with the HDVD800 with points going to the Naim with Mac integration and the remote and points going to the Senn with multiple outputs.
As I was about to go home, I recall seeing that the Headfone Shop in Toronto started carrying Woo, specifically the WA6 and WA7. Thought I'd give the WA7 another listen so headed north. The setup this time was with the foster HPA8 as the DAC feeding the WA6 and WA7. Gave everything about 1/2 an hour to warm up as I listened and came to the following conclusions.
- Yup, did the right thing selling my original WA7. Sounded a bit thin and lifeless. Tried it a couple more times with various songs and came to the same conclusion.
- Only spent a few minutes with the HD800 plugged into the Fostex but long enough to realize that I was dealing with the Naim/Senn scenario again. Tried it a coupe of more times during the audition. Really, really nice but I wanted something different.
- Now, the WA6..
This is different, not as clean and neutral as everything else, less deep bass extension, good highs with mid bass and mids to die for. Everything from Patricia Barber, Dire Straits to Deadmou5 to Enigma sounded richer and more engaging. Holy cr@p, everything I've read about the WA6 says no, not bad but nowhere near the ultimate, or even middle of the road for the HD800. Back and forth between the units, step out for a coffee, come back and the same thing. Kick butt mid-bass. Could be more precise and cleaner but it's not shy! I really like the WA6! Fun, engaging, forgiving of poorer recordings while providing them some life in the mid-bass and mid-range. Say it isn't so. OK, read that it really doesn't have enough power to drive the HD800 well. What? Cant get this thing past 1 o'clock without the ears bleeding and very comfortable at 11 o'clock. Out again for a think and back in with the credit card. Chinese rectifier, really shouldn't sound this good. Sophia Princess on order.
If I want neutrality and transparency, the HD800 / Naim DAC-V1 is it. If I want fun and engaging giving ups a little transparency sub-bass and soundstage, it's the Woo. Oh yes, the WA6 is a really nice match with the RS1i. Vali on steroids without the ringing and slight roughness. It's good to have choices/variety.
The Questyle is like a Chevy Camaro SS. To get a BMW or Mercedes of the same horsepower, you're going to have to spend 2-3 times the cost of the Camaro. But of course the cheaper luxury cars still beat the Camaro in comfort and handling. But if horsepower is all you care about, then the Camaro is a better option for the price. The HD800 is like horsepower in this metaphor.
You're a man after my heart. I've owned three Camaros and am looking for a '68 SS right now.
We all have plans in life and in buying our heafi stuff Enjoy what ever you buy. And if you find something you like better sell the old and welcome the new .
Al
I drive a 2012 Camaro.
Get the new Z28.