[paradoxper]

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Spoiler: Warning%3A%20Spoiler!

Originally Posted by fejnomit /img/forum/go_quote.gif
 
 
I'm a little confused about having been rude.  It was not my intention to offend.  A link was posted to comments about the Stratus on another site and I merely pointed out that I disagreed and urged the poster asking the question about those findings to consider the opinion of those who actually own the amp being critiqued.  Seems scientific enough to me.  I never meant to disrespect others' findings  - although I must say that I do find the reference to enthusiastic support of the Stratus as the work of *fanboys* to be rude.  So I merely wanted to point out that that criticism could leveled at anyone who expresses enthusiasm for any product, so be careful.  Also, for reference, I have owned or currently own the ZD, the ECSS, and now two iterations of the BA - and I am a big fan of Craig's work - so I am somewhat familiar with the EC sound to which the Stratus was largely being compared.  Never would have occurred to me to call any contributions of EC threads the work of *fanboys* that's all.
 

 

 

Spoiler: bleh

 
That's just not how I saw it. I feel you just missed the context of those comments.
 
Purrin didn't even bash the Stratus, he simply said it was slightly muddier than x amp.
 
Your response was 1. It's all hearsay (how is that anyway, it's not a discussion on a prototype, they actually heard the amp)...
2. Anyone commenting on the Stratus doesn't own it (you certainly seemed to be implying some point there)
3. It was all meet conditions (which I have to wonder if it even was, or if that's all speculation on your part)
4. Those who haven't heard the amp rolled with HD800 should categorically not comment (how that isn't outright rude?)
 
My point being you came off as an ass to me. Intended or not.
 
It did not seem like you had an differing opinion, but rather you were out to discredit any contrary finding's to your own.
 
Just want to clear the air, so you can see where I saw things coming from. I know you're not really an ass, nor
am I trying to pick a fight or argue.
 

On another note, my HD800's should be arriving tomorrow. Quite excited to find out
if I like 'em this go 'round.

 

[Cante Ista]

Does anyone listen to LPs with these phones? I have a feeling that the LP warmth would be sooo nice with them. I am just speculating here -- I am all digital -- but anyone who has an LP set up, please share you experience. What's in your signal path? How does it sound in general? How does it compare to you digi set up?

 

[third_eye]

Well, if vinyl flac rips count, then yes

. And they do sound pretty amazing.

 

[Olias of Sunhillow]

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Does anyone listen to LPs with these phones? I have a feeling that the LP warmth would be sooo nice with them. I am just speculating here -- I am all digital -- but anyone who has an LP set up, please share you experience. What's in your signal path? How does it sound in general? How does it compare to you digi set up?

 
IMO, the HD800 handles vinyl the same way it handles digital -- good recordings (and clean LP copies) sound razor-sharp and fantastic, while bad recordings (and noisy LP copies) can be nearly unlistenable at times.
 
I really like the tactile elements of playing LPs -- cleaning the records, flipping to side 2, the covers, etc. -- but I'm pretty agnostic when it comes to preferring one format or another from a sound quality standpoint. I'd therefore recommend going with quality. If you're going to take the time to source great-sounding vinyl to play on a decent rig (say, Rega RP3 or above), then you'll most definitely enjoy it with your HD800 rig.

 

[MacedonianHero]

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Spoiler: bleh

 
That's just not how I saw it. I feel you just missed the context of those comments.
 
Purrin didn't even bash the Stratus, he simply said it was slightly muddier than x amp.
 
Your response was 1. It's all hearsay (how is that anyway, it's not a discussion on a prototype, they actually heard the amp)...
2. Anyone commenting on the Stratus doesn't own it (you certainly seemed to be implying some point there)
3. It was all meet conditions (which I have to wonder if it even was, or if that's all speculation on your part)
4. Those who haven't heard the amp rolled with HD800 should categorically not comment (how that isn't outright rude?)
 
My point being you came off as an ass to me. Intended or not.
 
It did not seem like you had an differing opinion, but rather you were out to discredit any contrary finding's to your own.
 
Just want to clear the air, so you can see where I saw things coming from. I know you're not really an ass, nor
am I trying to pick a fight or argue.
 

On another note, my HD800's should be arriving tomorrow. Quite excited to find out
if I like 'em this go 'round.

Cool. Are you using the same upstream gear as your last go round?

 

[paradoxper]

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Cool. Are you using the same upstream gear as your last go round?

No. And either it made the difference or I believe something changed. It's rockin' as in LCD-3 toe tappin' good.
 
I'll be getting a couple loaner DACs and trying out the NAD M51 (again) and an Metrum Octave to see
if Gungnir leaves early or stays until statement.
 
I take back everything I ever said about HD800's not having impact or visceral qualities, they're pretty much LCD-3's
but with better everything..

 

[Maxvla]

I take back everything I ever said about HD800's not having impact or visceral qualities, they're pretty much LCD-3's but with better everything..

He's coming around!

 

[paradoxper]

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He's coming around!

I'm surely eating crow and lovin' it!

 

[olor1n]

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Cool. Are you using the same upstream gear as your last go round?

No. And either it made the difference or I believe something changed. It's rockin' as in LCD-3 toe tappin' good.
 
I'll be getting a couple loaner DACs and trying out the NAD M51 (again) and an Metrum Octave to see
if Gungnir leaves early or stays until statement.
 
I take back everything I ever said about HD800's not having impact or visceral qualities, they're pretty much LCD-3's
but with better everything..

 
L.O.L. Glad you're enjoying them. I'll eat my hat if you find no significant improvement in the M51 over the Gungnir. Especially with the HD800 at the end of the chain.

 

[Raksasa]

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Originally Posted by paradoxper /img/forum/go_quote.gif
 
. . . .   I'll be getting a couple loaner DACs and trying out the NAD M51 (again) and an Metrum Octave to see
if Gungnir leaves early or stays until statement. . . . .

 
Wow, really looking forward to your thoughts on this.
 
Not that I don't trust olor1n's ears ( or his LED sensitive eyes 

), just good to hear more thoughts on where da' Gung sits in the scheme of things.
 
Cheers,
 
R

 

[olor1n]

I don't think there are many here who've directly compared the Gungnir to the M51 John. Fwiw, there's myself, dleblanc343, prepoman, Loevhagen, and paradoxper. Para stands alone in his previous assessment, but I'd be more surprised if he maintains that stance with the HD800 at the end of the chain.

 

[Raksasa]

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Originally Posted by olor1n /img/forum/go_quote.gif

I don't think there are many here who've directly compared the Gungnir to the M51 John. Fwiw, there's myself, dleblanc343, prepoman, Loevhagen, and paradoxper. Para stands alone in his previous assessment, but I'd be more surprised if he maintains that stance with the HD800 at the end of the chain.

 
Ta Jon.
 
I've missed some of the other guys thoughts re M51 v. da' Gung. Will have to go and rummage around the advanced search function.
 
Dayam, there are sooooo many interesting DACs around, up to the $2k mark, these days. Plus what may come out in next 6 - 12 months.
NONE of them have enough outputs for me. Will have to look into a switch box. I need 5 outputs (1 bal, 4 x S/E).
 
I'm really doing long term research into a possible future DAC upgrade. Probably won't bite until I hear what the Schiit Statement is capable of.
Have been pretty happy with my Schiit gear so far.
 
R

 

[preproman]

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Ta Jon.
 
I've missed some of the other guys thoughts re M51 v. da' Gung. Will have to go and rummage around the advanced search function.
 
Dayam, there are sooooo many interesting DACs around, up to the $2k mark, these days. Plus what may come out in next 6 - 12 months.
NONE of them have enough outputs for me. Will have to look into a switch box. I need 5 outputs (1 bal, 4 x S/E).
 
I'm really doing long term research into a possible future DAC upgrade. Probably won't bite until I hear what the Schiit Statement is capable of.
Have been pretty happy with my Schiit gear so far.
 
R

 
 
"Dayam"...  I like that

 
So very true.  Lots of competition.  I have the Master 7 coming in a week or so.  If you're willing to spend up to 2K IMO the PWD2 is hard to beat at the 2K mark.  Note:  the MSRP is 4K I would not spend 4K for it.  You can get it sub 2.5k new all day on the street.  
 
While I really like the m51 there a few I might like better.  The Anedio D2 for one.  

 

[myc]

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No. And either it made the difference or I believe something changed. It's rockin' as in LCD-3 toe tappin' good.
 
I'll be getting a couple loaner DACs and trying out the NAD M51 (again) and an Metrum Octave to see
if Gungnir leaves early or stays until statement.
 
I take back everything I ever said about HD800's not having impact or visceral qualities, they're pretty much LCD-3's
but with better everything..

So.. can we say current HD 800 is a bass BEAST then? 

. 
And I think it could scale higher 

 

[Solude]

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I take back everything I ever said about HD800's not having impact or visceral qualities, they're pretty much LCD-3's but with better everything..

 
I had to eat that same crow with this pair of HD800s.  It wasn't even close, just pure face stomping on the LCD front.