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HE500 or LCD2 or both? (please share your impressions) Mini Review and POLL (please vote)

Poll Results: If you could only keep one...?

 
  • 44% (116)
    HE500
  • 55% (144)
    LCD2 (either rev)
260 Total Votes  
post #1 of 491
Thread Starter 

Two of the most sort after headphones on the market today, probably doesn't need another thread dedicated to them. However I still see a need for a base to put all of this info in. Thought it would be helpful to try and build a bigger picture of these headphones for future buyers (specially with Xmas coming up). A lot of peeps will take there first dip into the "new high end" with these two hp's. Some may have one of them already, but find themselves constantly thinking about the other... blink.gif

 

Please feel free to contribute useful info on either of these phones especially if you own or have heard both of them.

 

I wrote a mini review in another thread today, this is it below..

 

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I had both for about 6 months now and I've tried them with a few different mid-price set ups. Mainly different amps, (Asgard, Xcanv3, Necosoundlab, Audiogd C2, Mistral 509) and I'd say that they both respond well to normal dedicated hp amps. I've no want to try speaker taps for now. They both also have such a strong sound signature that there is not a "great" lot of difference in changing amps unless you are going from from budget to mid to high end etc. I'm only stating this, because with normal dynamic headphones there can be huge differences in amps. So my point is, if anyone is looking at these phones and thinking that they need a certain amp, then don't worry because they both sound great out of most quality headphone amps.

 

To the sound differences. Although they both share the trademark orthos sound (dark, detailed, liquidy, real) there is more than enough light and shade for me to justify owing both and to also label them for my music taste. I use the HE500's for Classical and Electronic and LCD2's for Jazz and Acoustic. This is of course my preference and they both do very well with all of these genres.

 

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The HE500's are a dark horse... What I mean by this is, they keep surprising me! Every now and then I'll get a real "thrill" with a piece of music and actually "feel it" more so than with the LCD2's. I think it comes down to the larger dynamics at both ends. Although the bass is simply not as good as the LCD2's it has more of a fun bloom, and I can feel the vibrations more in the sub bass. The HE500's sound like speakers with super quality tweeters and bass that vibrates through a wooden floor. They have the best treble on any headphone I've heard yet. Period.

 

The LCD2's took me a long time to fully appreciate (I bought the HE500's first). My experience with them over time, is that they grow and grow on you like a friend that you end up marrying haha. You do need to give them time.. Let your brain burn in with them! Me and my LCD2's will never part now, I love what they do and they do it so well. Yes they are dark and chocolaty, but they are the only headphone that I can wear for hours listening to Jazz without getting fatigue from Miles trumpet. We all know how good the bass is, but I love the sound as one whole. Its cohesive and natural to my ears, small soundstage but perfect for ensemble music. The treble is spot on, any more would ruin the whole. I'd compare them to a set of quality speakers on concrete flooring. Smooth and controlled from top to bottom.

 

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The mids on both are exceptional. But my nod goes to the LCD2's because I find it hard to differentiate the bass, mid, treb as they seem to be all one whole and very cohesive. The HE500's you can easily study the mids and although they have such an addictive quality that is deep (deeper than LCD2) and rich, there is a little creep of bass onto the lower mids. This may possibly dissipate on higher end amps.

Imaging, is slightly better on the Hifimans as they do have a little more breathing space and air. Though on the rare occasion there is a little congestion sometimes in the mids when listening to very complex music.

I dont listen to much vocal music so don't want to comment on that.

 

So its happy days for me and my two babies! A year ago I had the 650's and RS1's, and there was maybe a little too much night and day difference between them. Now with my two orthos I seem to have struck a more welcome balance and change. I can't imagine someone sitting and swapping a K701 or HD800 over to listen to the LCD2's for an hour.... Because it would take your ears and brain a week to get used to the sound!

 

Both fantastic hp's, one is a bit darker and the other is a bit "zingy-er" L3000.gif

post #2 of 491

i love the color of the wood on those lcd-2

post #3 of 491
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Originally Posted by Dubstep Girl View Post

i love the color of the wood on those lcd-2

Thanks Dubstep:) I kind of customized them myself, I've documented it on the LCD2 thread in summit-fi. But in a nutshell I sanded them down and applied a mixture of stain and polish.

post #4 of 491

^^ I also love the color of that wood. Sounds like you've found a good two sets that you can live with for a long time. It didn't take me long to love the lcd2...but it was just too heavy for me. As was the he500. redface.gif

post #5 of 491

Thread smacks of an excuse to post pictures of your LCD2s, bro beerchug.gif

 

Can't say I disagree much at all with your impressions. They both bring things to the table that make them excellent compliments.

 

LCD-2s are wonderfully natural, liquidy smooth and effortless. The bass is a wonder in that it has head-thumping authority but is neither overpowering nor even distracting. It's just the perfect bass. It reaches as low as you go and packs a massive punch, but has minimal bleed and blends so smoothly into the lushious mids. My favorite cans for Jazz and synth. I'd pick them over HD800s for recording/mixing too.

 

HE-500s are an amazingly balanced headphone, but what stands out over the LCD-2s is the treble. I've said it before, but they manage to have all the sparkle but none of the sibilence of some of the big hitters in Summit-fi. Bass has more detail than the LCD-2s but really misses that extention and slam. My favorite cans for classic and some soundtracks etc.

 

If I had to pick one, I'd pick the LCD-2 without hesitation but I'd rather just have both. biggrin.gif

post #6 of 491

Oh how I wish that the lcd2 weighed even just a third less. It would be end game for me. It has one of the most addictive signatures that I've ever heard. 

post #7 of 491
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post

^^ I also love the color of that wood. Sounds like you've found a good two sets that you can live with for a long time. It didn't take me long to love the lcd2...but it was just too heavy for me. As was the he500. redface.gif

Thanks. Yeah when I got the hifimans it took a while to adjust to the weight, by the time I got the LCD2's the weight wasn't an issue.

 

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Originally Posted by Darkbeat View Post

Thread smacks of an excuse to post pictures of your LCD2s, bro beerchug.gif

 

Can't say I disagree much at all with your impressions. They both bring things to the table that make them excellent compliments.

 

LCD-2s are wonderfully natural, liquidy smooth and effortless. The bass is a wonder in that it has head-thumping authority but is neither overpowering nor even distracting. It's just the perfect bass. It reaches as low as you go and packs a massive punch, but has minimal bleed and blends so smoothly into the lushious mids. My favorite cans for Jazz and synth. I'd pick them over HD800s for recording/mixing too.

 

HE-500s are an amazingly balanced headphone, but what stands out over the LCD-2s is the treble. I've said it before, but they manage to have all the sparkle but none of the sibilence of some of the big hitters in Summit-fi. Bass has more detail than the LCD-2s but really misses that extention and slam. My favorite cans for classic and some soundtracks etc.

 

If I had to pick one, I'd pick the LCD-2 without hesitation but I'd rather just have both. biggrin.gif

Haha you know me too well bro wink_face.gif

 

Thanks for the impressions. I agree with you, only I feel the LCD2 has more texture and detail in the bass but the HE500's has more of a "boom". Maybe different with more powerful amps but the HE500's bass for me lacks the control that the LCD2.2 has.

 

Cheers guys. Anyone else care to share their thoughts on these two heavyweights?

post #8 of 491

Oh yeah....

 

For that bass that just extends waaaay down low - The LCDs are just great for that.

 

For those highs that are just sweet with a touch of sparkle - the HE-500s are just right for that.

 

Good post..

post #9 of 491
I really wish that the weight with the LCD didn't bother me so much. I haven't heard a sound signature that I enjoy more.
post #10 of 491

The mids in the LCD-2 is more real sounding than the HE-500. I like them both, however. The HE-500 really surprise me on a positive now and then. The LCD-2 doesn't - it is so good and it is not surprising anymore.

 

It is a battle:

 

 

HiFiMAN HE-500 vs. LCD-2 rev. 2

 

 

But - by points - the LCD-2 wins. Hence, I'll rank them like this taking average playing time into account:

 

700

post #11 of 491
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Originally Posted by Loevhagen View Post

 

700

 

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post #12 of 491
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by preproman View Post

Oh yeah....

 

For that bass that just extends waaaay down low - The LCDs are just great for that.

 

For those highs that are just sweet with a touch of sparkle - the HE-500s are just right for that.

 

Good post..

Thanks bro, imagine a hybrid of both basshead.gif that would be something!

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Originally Posted by Loevhagen View Post

The mids in the LCD-2 is more real sounding than the HE-500. I like them both, however. The HE-500 really surprise me on a positive now and then. The LCD-2 doesn't - it is so good and it is not surprising anymore.

 

It is a battle:

 

 

HiFiMAN HE-500 vs. LCD-2 rev. 2

 

 

Great pics as always Loevhagen, appreciate them thanks.

post #13 of 491
Nice thread. I'm currently tortured by a looming decision to buy one of these. I'm leaning towards the Audeze but I have a voucher that I could use on the HE-500 that would make them cost less than half as much. To go for the best value, or simply the best? Tough choice!
post #14 of 491

Go for the best...

 

But which one is the best (to you) - That's the question?

post #15 of 491
Haha yep, I have no idea. And I won't have a chance to hear one before ordering.
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